Repub/demo Difference

ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
edited October 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">just came across this</div> A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they
came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his
business card, and told him to come to the business for a job.He then took
out $20 and gave it to the homeless person.
The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another
homeless person, he decided to help.
He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the
welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and got out
$20.He kept $15 for administrative fees and gave the homeless person $5.
Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

this is great, had to post it. Rather true also.

Comments

  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Possibly but both are driven by money and care about nobody. GG.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    While its a good joke, and tells the fundamentals of all of it- we know it isn't true. Either way- good joke. Once again, SSJYoda impresses me.
  • Doug_the_HeadDoug_the_Head Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14909Members
    heh heh..... It's funny 'cause it's true...
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Personally I'm glad I'm not a real party goer. I may say things on a liberal standpoint, or have some conservative points, but I think in reality, the parties aren't any different. They want three things, Power, Money, and your votes. and they wonder why nobody votes hardly, because everyone freaking lies.
  • Doug_the_HeadDoug_the_Head Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14909Members
    Actually CWG, the two parties are about as polar opposite as you can get, both economically and socially.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    "Clever girl..." A cookie for anyone who knows what that's from.

    I'm not saying you're one Yoda, but that's pretty funny.
  • Fenrir51Fenrir51 Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7339Members
    Democrat used to mean a bad government or something along those lines way back when, in my opinion it still does.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    What ? A bad government ?

    No. Conservatives started as, idealistically, since pretty much the beginning of the nation, note : the US under the Articles of Confederation, could be drawn compartatively if not directly to anti-federalists.

    Liberalism, or democrats, would be considered those supporters of a strong central government, note : Federalists pre-US Constitution.

    Now, they may not be able to be directly drawn, but idealistically their values were pretty similar.

    Conservativism nowadays is pro-states right, (Old anti-federalist ideals) and a combination of federalists fiscal policies.

    Democrats are just people who simply want bigger government, more social programs, more bureaucracy and the like.

    Of course, everything goes much deeper than that, and is a little too involved for such a topic, but by no means did democrat mean bad government. or at least, couldn't logically be drawn from any period of history, or by any of the roots of the parties.

    Ironically, based off their roots, democrats would most accurately have their beginnings in federalists who disliked the majority of people and believed in keeping government as far away from the common man, :X.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Oct 20 2003, 09:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Oct 20 2003, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What ? A bad government ?

    No. Conservatives started as, idealistically, since pretty much the beginning of the nation, note : the US under the Articles of Confederation, could be drawn compartatively if not directly to anti-federalists.

    Liberalism, or democrats, would be considered those supporters of a strong central government, note : Federalists pre-US Constitution.

    Now, they may not be able to be directly drawn, but idealistically their values were pretty similar.

    Conservativism nowadays is pro-states right, (Old anti-federalist ideals) and a combination of federalists fiscal policies.

    Democrats are just people who simply want bigger government, more social programs, more bureaucracy and the like.

    Of course, everything goes much deeper than that, and is a little too involved for such a topic, but by no means did democrat mean bad government. or at least, couldn't logically be drawn from any period of history, or by any of the roots of the parties.

    Ironically, based off their roots, democrats would most accurately have their beginnings in federalists who disliked the majority of people and believed in keeping government as far away from the common man, :X. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, lets get this topic complicated, cause I'm up for a fight of the fanatics <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Ok, here'goes:

    First off, it was never "Federalists" Its been Socialists/Communists(different: communism is pure socialism). We all know communism isn't possible, and thats really what democrats are pushing for. I'm not either republican or democrat, but I agree more with republicans. Communism is impossible as long as money and idiots exhist. Which, sadly, is forever.
  • Supra_SoldierSupra_Soldier Join Date: 2003-02-02 Member: 12993Members, Constellation
    Uh Oh, why did I even click this thread? I can't stand all this political crap. It makes me sick to listen to politics, im out folks, have fun fighting with each other.
  • Psycho-Kinetic_Hyper-GeekPsycho-Kinetic_Hyper-Geek Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9243Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--ssjyoda+Oct 20 2003, 09:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Oct 20 2003, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they
    came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his
    business card, and told him to come to the business for a job.He then took
    out $20 and gave it to the homeless person.
    The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another
    homeless person, he decided to help.
    He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the
    welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and got out
    $20.He kept $15 for administrative fees and gave the homeless person $5.
    Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

    this is great, had to post it.  Rather true also.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah I mean look at how now that we have a Republican in the Whitehouse we're handing out jobs left and right and we're not borrowing money from other people to pay for bloated programs and homelessness is on the decrease.

    For those of you who are idiots <i>(Quanaut? YOU F**KING THINK DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING FOR COMMUNISM? YOU ARE AN UTTER WASTE OF FLESH)</i> here are some points.
    <ul>
    During the Clinton administration<i>(which I wasn't particularly fond of)</i> the actual size of the govt. DECREASED.

    Bush has created the single largest bureaucracy in the history of the US with the Dept. of Homeland Security.

    The budget under Clinton was not only balanced but actually in black ink.

    The budget deficit is once again rising out of control under Bush.

    Clinton may have been handed a windfall with the tech boom but he certainly didn't f**k it up on the economic front.

    Despite GIANT tax cuts that send the budget FURTHER into red ink the economy is still in the gutter.

    We have allowed for MASSIVE loss of our civil liberties due to the patriot act (USA PATRIOT I can't believe they f**king named it that, remember, <i>Adults did that</i>

    State rights have been TRAMPELED left and right by the administration whenever it doesn't agree with them. <i>(See Medicinal Marijuana and Assisted-Suicide)</i>
    </ul>

    Yeah the Republicans are REALLY the fiscally responsible, pro- freedom, pro state rights, anti BIG GUBMENT types.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    clever girl? Raptors? Dinosaurs? Jurassic Park? o.O
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Oct 21 2003, 01:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Oct 21 2003, 01:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> clever girl? Raptors? Dinosaurs? Jurassic Park? o.O <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    w00t w00t! You get a Cookie!
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Oct 20 2003, 11:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Oct 20 2003, 11:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Clever girl..." A cookie for anyone who knows what that's from. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Jurrasic Park. You owe me a cookie.

    On topic: Good joke. I really don't like either party (which is why I'm going to 'throw my vote away' on some 3rd party... probably green or socialist or something), but I find most Republicans to be especially dislikable. I don't know if its their preference for big buisness over individuals, or their desire to strip individuals of their constitutional rights (See: USAPATRIOT act, and upcoming part II. Many democrats may have signed off on the first one [not my current fav polotician, Ross Fiengold, though. GO GADGET FINEGOLD!:D], but that can be attributed to post 9/11 craziness). Or maybe its thier aparent hatred for the environment. But most probably, its thier desire to base laws around religion (See: anti-homosexual laws, anti-homosexual marriage laws). But really the whole concept of 'parties' only serves to further degrade the elusive 'democracy'. There have been Republicans I respect (somewhat), Rush comes to mind, if only for what he said about the payouts to the 9/11 victims/survivors. And the whole ESPN thing was typical of liberal polotics in action, he suggests that race may be playing a factor in the hype surrounding a certain player and all of the sudden hes gotta lose his job over it. Now Ruh really should have known better then to say it, even if he has that opinion, but he might have been high at the time so who knows.

    Wow, I really got on a tangent there.... anyways, yes, good joke.

    Edit: DAMN YOU GEM! THATS MY COOKIE! I TOOK THE TIME TO POST ON TOPIC AS WELL AS POSTING THE ANSWER! TEH COOKIE IS MINE! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    ~is ruler over all that is cookie~ <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    Yeah...that's crap. Funny, but crap <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    There is sadly absolutely no difference between the contemporary Democrat and the contemporary Republican.

    As said above, <i>it's all about the Benjamins</i>.


    <b>Folks who believe that there is a real political dynamic today are deluded</b>.
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    Well, you can't really compare Clinton/Bush. Clinton was a total woose, that let a lot get outa control. He even had the opportunity to capture bin laden, but no. He was a total wimp. The economy was on a downfall as he left, leaving it in the dumbster for Bush. And now Bush has many other things to wry about right, it sux, but that just means u gotta do things yerself.
    The original idea of the US was very little government involvement, and now look what the democrats have done. Bah. Just a bunch laid back ppl from the west with money that got bored.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Doug the Head+Oct 20 2003, 10:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Doug the Head @ Oct 20 2003, 10:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually CWG, the two parties are about as polar opposite as you can get, both economically and socially. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just like Bush is actually running the show XD
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    This reminds me of a character in one of Matt Groening's cartoons:

    "I'm a caring republican. I step over the homeless, not on them."
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scinet+Oct 21 2003, 07:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scinet @ Oct 21 2003, 07:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This reminds me of a character in one of Matt Groening's cartoons:

    "I'm a caring republican. I step over the homeless, not on them." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL!
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited October 2003
    It's true -- not much difference between the parties these days. It's like last night's episode of futurama: you can vote for John Jackson, or you can vote for Jack Johnson...

    John Jackson: "It's time someone had the courage to stand up and say: I'm against those things that everybody hates."
    Jack Johnson: "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said."
    John Jackson: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too far."
    Jack Johnson: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough."

    as for the original joke, I'd more expect the republican to kick the homeless guy in the balls than give him so much as 20 cents... but Scinet's counter-joke sums that up well :>
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    "Clever girl..." = Robert Muldoon in Jurassic Park, right before he gets killed (which is why the book is better, but that quotes not in the book anyway....if they had done it like the book it'd be an even better movie...but that's for a movies vs. books thread).

    If my 9th grade freshman history class from 4 years ago serves me right:

    Democrats (in the sense of the word) are supposed to be based of the greek system of the individual states (greek city-states, like Sparta, Thermopylae and Athens) electing people for the greek government. My history teacher said it came from the greek word Democratcia (or something like that)...alas, I can't remember the definition of that word at this time.

    Repulicans (again, in the sense of the word) should be based on the sense of people electing officials for goverment directly....okay, now they're starting to sound the same to me....bah.

    All I know is there's a difference between Repulic and Democracy...one has the peoples individual votes, and the other votes officials into office and lets them vote for the people (I think that's the republic).


    For the record (from 10th grade history class):
    Capitalism - people control the means of production and they must provide for themselves
    Socialism - government controls the means of production, however, individuals may purchase and control some (like a dude with a sandwich shop), government provides the basics of life, minimal shelter, food and water.
    Communism - government controls all aspects of production (which is technically supposed to be the entire population under stage 2 communism); the government is supposed to provide everything for the people.

    I'd like to also point out that no country in the world constitutes a total capitalist society (not even the USA), or a total communist society (not the USSR or China). Although the US was almost completely capitalist in the early 1900's and before. Err....well, that's kind of away from the democrats and republicans stuff...isn't it? It was a funny joke...I like the Matt Groening joke better though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> .

    Futurama was awesome though....heh, evil Nixon robots abound!
  • Doug_the_HeadDoug_the_Head Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14909Members
    edited October 2003
    Ok, for all you people who are too slow to understand the difference between Democrats and Republicans, I'm gonna lay it out as simply as possible.


    Economically, Republicans want:
    - As little government involvment in the economy as possible, and to let the free market/business cycle run its course (this includes opposition to minimum wage laws, taxtation, and socialized welfare/healthcare

    Democrats want:
    - Government involvement to keep prices steady, and have an equal distribution of income.


    There are good reasons for having either viewpoint, and niether one is entirely wrong, since it's all just theory.


    Now for all you people who think republicans are evil for not supporting minimum wage increases or taxing the rich, here is why they feel the way they do:
    - Increases in minimum wage mean that it cost more for firms to hire more people, which leaves the firm 2 options. 1) raise prices 2) lay off workers. Now if they choose option one, inflation rises, and the people who are making more numerically are not making any more in physical worth. If they choose option 2, unemployment rises, which hurts the minimum wage workers the most. Thus, republicans believe that minimum wage laws hurt minimum wage workers more than they help them, not to mention the people who have to buy things that are made or provided by minimum wage workers.
    - When you take money from people, it decreases GDP, that's fact. Now, people with lots of money are the ones that do the investing, so if no one has sufficient money to invest in new companies, GDP will take a huge hit. And when GDP falls, the people who feel it first are the lower and middle classes, because unemployment rises and wages decrease.


    Go go economics class!


    Now can any of you still say that Republicans and Democrats are the same and hold a straight face.


    edited for clarity
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Republicans and Democrats are the same ~Gem holds a straight face they found lying about on the ground~

    There's a difference between being slow and not giving a damn <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    This is not the Discussion forum, nor is this a good ground for a political discussion, so I'll <span style='color:red'>***lock***</span> it.
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