[mcon] It Begins.... Again
BrigadierWolf
Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16876Members, Contributor
Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16876Members, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">... oh my.</div> Well, I know I havent finished the Pistol yet, But I havent been in much of a mood to do modelling for the past few days.. so, Heres my concept for an HMG. The Severny Weapon Systems MG-78 Lancet. Perhaps not quiote as massive as the original HMG, But beefy nonetheless.
<img src='http://caltrop.no-ip.com/~timberwolf/NS/Severny.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://caltrop.no-ip.com/~timberwolf/NS/Severny.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
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Okay cool, thanks for showing your plans for your HMG. Looking foward to this a lot.
The only reason I say to lose the handle, is that :
-It gets in the way sometimes
-It tends to be overdone alot
And also, I really hate to ask, but would like to know, what else needs to be done on the p-72 pistol?
<edit> I think the handle is necessary, but I don't think it needs to be as big as you have it in your concept. Why put a scope on this machine gun if it's going to have the same accuracy as the NS HMG? Would look quite wierd in my opinion. </edit>
A scope would make no sense. and I do feel the carry handle is quite well placed.... you'll see
if you need someone to test it send me a PM
keep up the good work
Actually, I hadnt seen that one before, Nonetheless, the Severny MG-78 will continue as scheduled.
the Severny MG-78 will continue as scheduled
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I hope so, Brigadier, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I.
In other news, I was hoping it was going to look like a Bren, haha, since the one I concepted stalled. I like this model though - looking forward to seeing some "proper" pics soon.
Lets just wait for sheena to come in and clarify things, ya? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway, sexay concept there...tho it could use *some* beefing up, not too much, just enough to distinguish between your LMG and the HMG. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
i dont think you get what im talking about :o
here's a crappy illustration
<img src='http://members.lycos.co.uk/rabbiteh/severnyclosedbolt.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://members.lycos.co.uk/rabbiteh/severnyopenbolt.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
as you can see the bolt have to be quite as long as the brass itself, so that the ejection port is covered.
When you fire the gun, the bolt travels back, making an opening at the ejection port and thus the empty brass can be ejected.
if you look at AUG, FAMAS, SA80 or any bullpup style AR, you'll see that the bolt actually have room to travel back far enough.
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but thats not how real life bullpup rifles work, the bolt have to travel back such that the rear end of the catridge is at the head of the bolt, then move forward to ram the catridge into the chamber and then fired when the hammer hits the firing pin.
<a href='http://people.howstuffworks.com/machine-gun4.htm' target='_blank'>here's</a> a link on how guns work, its a simple ,not very accurate animation, but you'll kinda get the idea
You, however, are under the impression that Firearms can only work one way. And this is so wrong it doesnt even begin to be funny. So, allow me to *enlighten* you.
This design works very similar to say, an M60 GPMG, since thats your basic generic Mchinegun. Now, When bullets enter the gun, they are not in the firing chamber, they are above and aftward of it. Basically, they are just sitting in the magazine. Now, in a standard straight assembly rifle, the bolt would be located behind the magazine. However, in this particular design, it is in forward and underneath it. in order to get the cartridges from the magazine to the firing chamber, there is a Loader claw. If you know anything about the operation of larger weapons, this is a very familiar device. Basically, It reciprocates much like a bolt would, only it is located forward of the magazine well. Its purpose is to PULL *not push* the shell into the chamber, where it is then aligned with the firing pin and barrel, and can be fired.
thats a very unconventional design if you're gonna implement that kinda system in a bullpup :o