Bonus rps for pudg...

Scythe · August 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Level 2</div>I thought it would be cool if the Level 2 got more RPs than the usual lump sum every 10 seconds if they were the builder of the resource nozzle sucker. I mean that the Level 2 that built the sucker would get say 15 RPs per 10 seconds as opposed to the 10 RPs that the rest of the team would get. This would encourage aliens to evolve into Level 2s and expand the alien control of the map. Of course you would get aliens that try to attack friendly suckers and replace it with their own; this would only be possible if FF was on for alien buildings, which I think would be unlikely.

**Edit**
The numbers quoted above are completely arbitrary, they are <b>not</b> actual figures.

--Scythe--
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the_stalker · August 2002

i like this idea alot, its a good idea <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
/me puts it in the good idea box ^_^

humbaba · August 2002

For a while, in the first few tests, I actually thought this was the case. However, I learned with time that lvl2s get the same as everyone else. Lvl 2s are typically the most resource demanding class of them all because they can always find soemthing to spend it on (you can never have too many offense chambers . .heh heh). Therefore, they are constantly hungering for RPs and most learn to aggresively seek out nozzles quickly. Plus, you can feel the difference in RP flow notably when you add another node. I would be all for it, but I don't see it as a problem yet that it shoudl warrant any coding changes.

TiCK · August 2002

When marines place a resouce sucker down it adds them to the team pool.

When an alien sets one down it only goes for that alien.

Am I reading that correctly?

humbaba · August 2002

Nah, Kinda sounded like it, didn't it. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> . Lemme state it clearer. Every alien receives the same amount of rps, which are divided amongst them after being harvested. The argument FOR additional rps for builders was that it would encourage them to seek out nodes more. My response: No need to worry, because you can already feel a marked improvement in resource flow with a new node and builders are always rp hungry, so they are driven to expand in order to convert as many rps to alien structures as possible. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Gwahir · August 2002

aliens also get RPs for killing marines do they not?

TiCK · August 2002

Ok, I was worried about one alien getting to the nozzles faster than the others and sucking them all up for himself. =P

Surge · August 2002

Can you still be a Level 2 and <i>not</i> build? Or does he have hardly any combat skills, and it's better off just jumping to Level 3?

Slycaster · August 2002

Aliens don't get RP's for killing marines, however their score increases, which means they get RP faster.

Diogenes_Dog · August 2002

So there's no individual incentive for aliens to kill, but there IS a team incentive?

Btw, is there anything in place to prevent this from causing slippery slope type gameplay? Or uh, a positive feedback loop. Whatever you want to call it. :P

I mean, don't game mechanics of this type give the team that's already winning an unnatural and unneeded boost?

-dio

Gwahir · August 2002

Cyanide just described an individual incentive. Higher score = faster gain of resources, if I read that correctly.

Jammer · August 2002

Its survival of the fittest. The best aliens get the most rps.

Dan_Forever · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Gwahir @ Aug. 12 2002,19:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Cyanide just described an individual incentive. Higher score = faster gain of resources, if I read that correctly.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ah but that counts towards the whole team and not the one alien if I understand correctly. Thus, a team incentive <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Rico1 · August 2002

I dont think thats the way it works dan. I think i read somewhere that each alien has their individual RP pool. It changes according to how many kills they have etc. Im not sure, but i also think that the aliens also have maybe a general shared RP pool which lvl 2 aliens can use?

Not entirely sure about that, but i do remember a PT saying that they acquired RPs for themselves only if they killed more people etc. If they dint have this, whats to stop some guy who just sits at spawn all the time waiting for their team to get RPs and when they have just enough, he goes and gets his guy upgraded to a lvl 5?

QUAD · August 2002

Think about it this way, If a level 1 who's doing horribly wanted to go level 5 but they didnt have near enough rp's, and level 2 got rps faster, then they could just go level 2 then gain rps super fast, then go level 5 as soon as they have enough..... hence it could (and probably would) become a horrible exploit.

Longtooth · August 2002

Does the number or rp's each person get stay the same or does it depend on how many people on the team and how many nozzels?

Scythe · August 2002

To my understanding, every member of the alien team gets the same amount of RPs in a lump sum every ten seconds. The more suckers there are, greater the lump sum is. I don't know what the deal is with killing of marines though. What I propose, just to clarify, is that the more suckers any alien builds the more RPs it gets relative to the rest of the team.

--Scythe--
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Hida_Tsuzua · August 2002

The kill for RP feature is gone, due to the fact that it allowed for turtling. You now get your rp from building towers on nodes. For marines, it is pooled together. For aliens, it is spilt among all the members evenly. Subject to change however.

Haije · August 2002

I thought aliens were supposed to turtle

Rico1 · August 2002

No... aliens are the deathmatchy race, if anyone were suppossed to turtle (which theyre not, hence no mannable turrets or turtling weapons) it would be the marines since theyre weaker in strength.

TiCK · August 2002

Good, I hope the marines get scared to leave their main base so that we can get all 3 hives up without resistance. =P

dragonsblade · August 2002

if im ever a marine comander i wuold build the main base a t a preset hive location then they cant get three hives hehehehe <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Darkness · August 2002

you dont know where that other hivespot is mr. commander <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Scythe · August 2002

People: Don't dredge up old posts!

Start a new topic if you want to discuss something.

Jeez.

--Scythe--
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sharpsword6 · August 2002

I think the idea is kewl real kewl. I have told people not to start a new topic in my posts to, they never listen. Dragonsblade does it all the time, starts a whole new topic in some ones topic then we have people talkin about one topic and the others talkin about the real topic.

sharpsword6 · August 2002

I used to never use correct grammer but now I know how. Dragon you just dont get it, you are supposed to use periods, commas, and other things like that. Punctuation will help you, so that people can understand you better. Thats why everyone is complaining about your terrible grammer. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> So just get the hang of it plz for the forum. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

gutterclutch · August 2002

How exactly can you start a thread like this when you haven't played the game and felt the balance?

Sgt_X · August 2002

I wouldn't follow dragons example. He's going to get an e-mail or something equivalent from the mods soon if he doesn't start listening and stop resing these dead topics.

Moleculor · September 2002

Scythe, don't link to an old thread and then complain when people dredge it up. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

(I need my locking abilities in here!!! )

Silver_Fox · September 2002

Just because marines need teamplay doesnt make them weaker. Remember that when you hive is over run by the weaker class in a few weeks ...

Necro · September 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Cyanide @ Aug. 12 2002,00:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Aliens don't get RP's for killing marines, however their score increases, which means they get RP faster.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
so if ur score is at 50 and everyone else is at 10 u get rp's 5 times faster? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pudgy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::gorge::'>

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