Any Ravers?

dr_d · October 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">In southern Cali....</div> I'm going to <a href='http://monstermassive.com' target='_blank'>Monster Massive</a> (sites a bit slow) October 31st and thought it could be cool to get all the NS ravers together for a Halloween ravathon. It's gunna be in LA and should be pretty cool, if your ineterested post here with your location.

D in San Franando Valley (818)

Talesin · October 2003

Unfortunately though I live in 818, I've got other plans.

Parasite · October 2003

Hey Im 818 too!!! NoHo
Not a Raver.

Liku · October 2003

North Hollywood, I listen to Trance and whatnot Liquid when no one's here, but I never hit the Clubs. Paranoia would love this topic, and he wants to take me sometime. NS Rave?

Infinitum · October 2003

"The Cheat, is GROUNDED. We did not have that lightswitch installed so you could house lightswitch raves."

Teflon · October 2003

Can someone enlighten me as to what the point is of a rave? Everything I've seen / heard of them makes them look like a physical manifestation of the reason why goth people dress the way they do.

Just curious.

Then again, I guess is repetative electronic drums is your thang... meh.. it's a free country I guess.

Grimm · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Oct 17 2003, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Can someone enlighten me as to what the point is of a rave? Everything I've seen / heard of them makes them look like a physical manifestation of the reason why goth people dress the way they do.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Please elaborate on this, its left me rather confused.

Teflon · October 2003

Okay, rephrased in new Easy-To-Understand Plain-Engrish v1.0 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

What the hell is the point of a rave?

Honestly, I don't know a damn thing about them, except they play repetative electronic music.

JediYoshi · October 2003

Same as a concert, to express your love of music >_>

Grimm · October 2003

After discussing this with a good friend of mine who is a true goth, I have this quote directly from him to present:

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>a rave is simply a large gathering of people, especially teenagers where techno (and the occasional EBM) is played. They are a big place for party drugs and that's pretty much the point of them. The reason Goths dress the way they do, however dates back to the late '70s when the subculture first developed. The music was a darker, less political evolution from punk and the fashion was a direct reaction on the colorful mainstream disco fashion. Where punk was a revolution, Goth was an evolution. Where disco was colorful and bright, Goth was dark and decadent.

In short, the purpose of a rave (social gathering with intent to use drugs) and Gothic fashion (an escape from the happy colorfulness of disco), have nothing to do with one another</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I can honestly say I agree with him, as he has a lot of free time to determine the meanings and purpose of things, as well as play a good game of Frozen Throne. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Talesin · October 2003

Question being, why limit it to just a hallowe'en night thing? We seem to have quite a few in the area (Burbank to be specific, here)... possibly enough to take over a smaller venue. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Additionally, quite a bit of the goth subculture has split away from the music (personally though I enjoy Sisters of Mercy, I can't freaking STAND Bauhaus for more than a few minutes) taking on a life of its own. At least in my mind, bringing in those with a taste for the more refined styles that contemporary culture simply has no place for. Can you remember the last time you'd seen someone walking down the street, wearing a fine waistcoat and brocade? The last time you'd seen someone wearing a cape or cloak, without it being 'dress-up'? There's more to Gothic dress than simple black, though most neo-goths (the majority of those sporting shock-rock t-shirts, vinyl skirts, white facepaint and dyed hair) tend to pigeonhole it as 'Victorian Gothic'.

Personally I'd prefer to go out for an evening with a silver-capped walking stick than a handful of fake blood capsules. There's more than one way to be disturbing, and the more subtle methods leave a far-lasting impression.

Teflon · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Oct 18 2003, 01:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Question being, why limit it to just a hallowe'en night thing? We seem to have quite a few in the area (Burbank to be specific, here)... possibly enough to take over a smaller venue. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Additionally, quite a bit of the goth subculture has split away from the music (personally though I enjoy Sisters of Mercy, I can't freaking STAND Bauhaus for more than a few minutes) taking on a life of its own. At least in my mind, bringing in those with a taste for the more refined styles that contemporary culture simply has no place for. Can you remember the last time you'd seen someone walking down the street, wearing a fine waistcoat and brocade? The last time you'd seen someone wearing a cape or cloak, without it being 'dress-up'? There's more to Gothic dress than simple black, though most neo-goths (the majority of those sporting shock-rock t-shirts, vinyl skirts, white facepaint and dyed hair) tend to pigeonhole it as 'Victorian Gothic'.

Personally I'd prefer to go out for an evening with a silver-capped walking stick than a handful of fake blood capsules. There's more than one way to be disturbing, and the more subtle methods leave a far-lasting impression. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
There's what, a whole 12 people that think like that? I think it'd be pretty cool to do the 'victorian goth', and certainly different.

I'm referring to the visually and emotionally offensive people who put 4 pounds of white face makeup on each morning, slide into the same pair of fishnet pants they've been wearing for 4 months now, and strap a leash on themselves and a couple bondage bracelets, or hang out in AIM chatrooms saying '5,000 yr old M vampire seeks soul mate, must be a fire or earth'. And then call it self expression :/ Your self expression ends where my right to not be offended by your mere presence begins.

Grimm · October 2003

Yea, 'goths' like that tend to be a problem as they bring a bad name to normal goths, as well as start the ideas of goths listening to Manson and Cradle of Filth and Slipknot and all sorts of other rocl-based musicians.

True goth music is more brooding and such, groups like The Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, and Bella Morte to name a few. Pretty cool stuff actually, glad my friend got me into it all.

Liku · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Oct 17 2003, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Same as a concert, to express your love of music >_>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Exactly. And to show people how good you are at Sticking and Liquiding.

Smoke_Nova · October 2003

If I had the material...i'd make a nice giant cloak.

Raves are about the music!

Goths just happen to show up @ raves so they can (bad joke) suck the happiness out of everyone.

Liku · October 2003

Yeah, I hate the goth's... There's tons of them at my school and they clearly do that for attention, be trendy, and be cool.

Smoke_Nova · October 2003

while I have the skin color a goth strives for (See that whitebackground on 404 errors? my skin is slightly darker then that.) I am by no means a goth. I like some of the subculture of Gothica but some of it is...creepy.

Teflon · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 18 2003, 03:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> while I have the skin color a goth strives for (See that whitebackground on 404 errors? my skin is slightly darker then that.) I am by no means a goth. I like some of the subculture of Gothica but some of it is...creepy. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
SmokeNova goes outside and the sunlight shines through him. <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> BTW: Nice Ferai ava.

Smoke_Nova · October 2003

I go outside and I catch fire <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

actually, I like my pale skincolor. It helps that i'm Swedish/Scottish by family ancestry.

Still, Goths are freaky, rave's are cool, blood rave's = vampire killing and vampires = coolest villians.

Teflon · October 2003

Hahah Sweedes. I have a Sweed friend and he wears all black, but it's mainly because he's practically albino: White skin, blonde hair... we've never seen him wear anything but pants. We suspect he has grotesquely deformed legs or something <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

SoulSkorpion · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Oct 18 2003, 01:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> "The Cheat, is GROUNDED. We did not have that lightswitch installed so you could house lightswitch raves."  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>We had that lightswitch installed for you so that you could turn the lights on, and off. NOT so you could throw lightswitch raves! Now let's go break open that glowstick and pour it into Homestar Runner's Mountain Dew. I heard they have to pump your stomach when you drink that stuff...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Teflon · October 2003

We had lightsticks for something at school. I broke open about 30 of them and made this huge goopy pile. Stunk like hell. People would step in it and walk around leaving glowy footprints all over the gym <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Melatonin · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 18 2003, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Goths just happen to show up @ raves so they can (bad joke) suck the happiness out of everyone.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
... and the narcotics

Paranoia2MB · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Oct 18 2003, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Can someone enlighten me as to what the point is of a rave? Everything I've seen / heard of them makes them look like a physical manifestation of the reason why goth people dress the way they do.

Just curious.

Then again, I guess is repetative electronic drums is your thang... meh.. it's a free country I guess. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I have NEVER EVER seen a goth at a rave.

Anyways,

Yes Dr.D, I probably am going to hit up Monster Massive with a couple of my buddies. We'll probably be the best stringers and stickers at the party.

Maybe we can meet up Dr.D. I'll give you a lightshow if you are one of those stupid ****tard E-tards. If not, all the better <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Oh, 714 - Orange County - Fountain Valley

Melatonin · October 2003

*clicks*

im not up on all this terminology..

sticking = glowsticks
stringing = poi

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Paranoia2MB · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Melatonin @ Oct 18 2003, 05:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> *clicks*

im not up on all this terminology..

sticking = glowsticks
stringing = poi

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Correct

dr_d · October 2003

Well so far one person has actually mentioned anything about going to monster massive, if everyone is done spamming my thread, anyone else going?

Paranoia: I doubt I'm dropping at this Rave I have this rule about E and LA....long story....

Paranoia2MB · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Oct 19 2003, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well so far one person has actually mentioned anything about going to monster massive, if everyone is done spamming my thread, anyone else going?

Paranoia: I doubt I'm dropping at this Rave I have this rule about E and LA....long story....  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Rofl
Okay good, anyways. You dressing up or nah? I may dress up as a cop >=D

Good chance i wont though, too lazy.

dr_d · October 2003

If everything goes according to plan I'm going to be in a full-blown pimp outfit, we'll see.

CommunistWithAGun · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Oct 18 2003, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Can someone enlighten me as to what the point is of a rave? Everything I've seen / heard of them makes them look like a physical manifestation of the reason why goth people dress the way they do.

Just curious.

Then again, I guess is repetative electronic drums is your thang... meh.. it's a free country I guess.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Rofl....

Actually all I ever thought happened at Raves was "smokin the ex" and "chuggin the cheeb" And Heavy Petting.

Paranoia2MB · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 19 2003, 07:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Oct 18 2003, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Can someone enlighten me as to what the point is of a rave? Everything I've seen / heard of them makes them look like a physical manifestation of the reason why goth people dress the way they do.

Just curious.

Then again, I guess is repetative electronic drums is your thang... meh.. it's a free country I guess. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Rofl....

Actually all I ever thought happened at Raves was "smokin the ex" and "chuggin the cheeb" And Heavy Petting. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Smoking X? WTH
and
chuggin the cheeb

what kind of druggy are you? g'damn u are wierd lol

Repetative drums? Rock music, rap music and every single other kind of music have repetative beats...except they are called a "chorus" instead.

Any Ravers?

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