Not to sound mean to cri, since i know a couple of the members, but all this season, they've always been winning, but also, they've been playing the easiest clans in CAL, just wait till they play HAM/dn/eR/(xen?)/Exigent, i'd say that they will lose.
<!--QuoteBegin--Soberana+Oct 12 2003, 11:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Oct 12 2003, 11:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sometimes in scrims I let the other clan kill me a lot ;O
Playing isnt fun when you lose. Winning is fun. A hard earned victory is fun. You cant deny it. That rush, that sudden adrenaline followed by a cool soothing feeling of calm marks it. You won, your adversary lost. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think it's <b>testosterone</b>, not adrenaline <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I haven't read any of your posts, but I have to say that [Champion] is by far the most talented NS clan out there. Their leader, Denny, could probably take on all of the members of HAM and [C*B] at once, blindfolded and with his hands tied.
I thought we all learned a long time ago not to list our own clans. Should we go back and remember the 1.0 top ten lists, with people puting their own clan at about 7-8 spots higher than they needed to be? Yeah, so stop doing it.
yeah they did I was plying for them lol<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well thats what scrims are for, the testing of strats, and considering ns 2.0 now is more about strategy than personal skill (on some level), I wouldn't feel too proud after winning one scrim. I don't really see what all the big drama **** is about; ns 2.0 isn't even that fun/entertaining competitive wise.
Cx is a good clan and I don't blame them for being largly inactive and its nice to see a draft league admin talking **** about other clans, really gives you a good impression of nsdraft. Why is eR so low on everyones list? I've always been impressed when I've played with them or against them, just because they've had a hard season doesnt mean they suck by any means. *sigh* I hate drama... especially when it's ns drama <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--pwned.ns+Sep 19 2003, 10:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pwned.ns @ Sep 19 2003, 10:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i only know of 1 clan thats any good imo torment why u ask why torment ! THEY HAVE ONLY LOST 1 GAME EVER as in EVER<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Now, what I have heard, they lost for #fek'lyrs.
And my opinion. I vote for .bm. They have hell of a comm, JustMe, and very good teamplay. Torment comes near behind. And no, I dont have any experience of US clans.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i only know of 1 clan thats any good imo torment why u ask why torment ! THEY HAVE ONLY LOST 1 GAME EVER as in EVER<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#cri has never lost a cal match? Does that make them better? They are like 12-0-2 or something for both seasons.
mmmm, crit nice post....we played .bm about 2 weeks ago and 2-0'd them (scrim). Also we're undefeated in all of CAL too... in fact technically we won the first 14 week preseason at 11-0-3, which was basically the same as sYn except they were 10-0-3...they had a bye or something or didn't play a match that never got recorded...
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around.
<!--QuoteBegin--Lucid+Oct 14 2003, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lucid @ Oct 14 2003, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> speaking of drama, its time to change your sig rennex
sox in 6 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL!!!!!!
<!--QuoteBegin--pandas|RoQ+Oct 14 2003, 02:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pandas|RoQ @ Oct 14 2003, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mmmm, crit nice post....we played .bm about 2 weeks ago and 2-0'd them (scrim). Also we're undefeated in all of CAL too... in fact technically we won the first 14 week preseason at 11-0-3, which was basically the same as sYn except they were 10-0-3...they had a bye or something or didn't play a match that never got recorded...
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> scrims count, they really DO! im not lying here, i promise -___-
<!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Oct 14 2003, 03:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Oct 14 2003, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Lucid+Oct 14 2003, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lucid @ Oct 14 2003, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> speaking of drama, its time to change your sig rennex
sox in 6 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL!!!!!!
<b>HELL YES!</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Winners are always hated, yankees will win the world series.
<!--QuoteBegin--pandas|RoQ+Oct 14 2003, 03:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pandas|RoQ @ Oct 14 2003, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mmmm, crit nice post....we played .bm about 2 weeks ago and 2-0'd them (scrim). Also we're undefeated in all of CAL too... in fact technically we won the first 14 week preseason at 11-0-3, which was basically the same as sYn except they were 10-0-3...they had a bye or something or didn't play a match that never got recorded...
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Yeah <3 pandas. Don't go away.
its very hard to put together a top 10 list, because i know for a fact that every one of the top 5 clans are capable of beating the other on their day, the top 5 clans imo are:
.torment. .BM HAM dn` pandas
i have scrimmed with all of those teams, and theres very little between them, i dont think i can put those into a list of who is best or whatever, because on the off chance that they play a game and the result isnt 2-2, then they could have a game the next day and the other team would squeeze a victory. I suppose you can rank it by CAL, but its hard to really say a best clan in the world, as when euro clans play USA clans the pings are always a big factor.
I don't think there is a "best clan" out there. Certain clans dominate other clans, but those clans in turn dominate other clans that dominate that clan. It's sort of like rock, paper, scissors at the moment.
But if I had to throw out the best clans, as far as talent, teamwork, and potential: -These are not in any order, because that would be contradictory to what I said above-
Damage Network [ dn` ]: I really do enjoy playing agains these guys. They're roughly some of the most skilled marines I have seen to date. Formerly SiD, they handed HTO an **** whooping back in 1.04, and since then they have been a strong presence in the NS community.
HAM: Thought by many to be the most talented of ALL clans out there, there's definately reasoning to support this. They're active members of the NS community, and contain some of the most widely known NS players out there ( like SHAMPOO ). Skill wise, they are one of the best. Team work wise, they are one of the best. Clan wise, the suck. Just kidding - one of the best.
Infinite Reverance [ ir. ]: <BIAS>Despite the cheesy name and tag, this clan, in which I am proud to be a member of, has really come together. Contrary to popular belief, this is not apex 2.0, but a more concise and productive group of players that have played together ( some since 1.00 ). We scrim regularly and while we aren't the most skilled players ( I suck at bunnyhopping =/ ) we still pack a punch and can be formidable. </BIAS>
Exigent [ exigent| ]: Some of the exigent players are real life friends ( or even related ) and quite honestly, I wish my friends played NS if it would help me play like them. Skill wise, they have some of the players out there and just recruited a very, very skilled player of ReD fame. They're a bit unpredictable which makes them even more dangerous. Even though their name is ridiculous, their play is not.
Pandas [ pandas| ]: Probably the most notorious clan of 1.04 fame other than HAM. They may be kind, fun loving pandas, but they are seriously good. What they lack in time they make up for in skill and teamwork. If I had to get a CAL match, I'd hope that the completely non panda affiliated Brad would not place me against them.
Evolution Revolution [ eR ]: I remember playing eR in my first ever CAL match with HTO. We tied them even though they were favored to win 18-1 ( I was the one ). We were thrilled, they weren't. What'd they do? Practice their **** off and became one of the most potent clans in NS. Great team that has survived a blow several clans have not - the test of time.
Those are the clans I think are the best out there. I did put my clan on the list, but I honestly believe we belong on it ( so do others). Others may disagree, but hey - thats where the drama comes in!
HAM in the usa/europe PSI in autralia.. ROFL.. PSI was the top clan in 1.04 at least in indo/australian, singapore, malaysia, thailand, japan, china
hmm.. in 2.0 i dare say that hfactor is the top clan in S.E.A <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> maybe u should scrim wif PSI to know their PROWESS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Diskord+Oct 15 2003, 05:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diskord @ Oct 15 2003, 05:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> HAM: Thought by many to be the most talented of ALL clans out there, there's definately reasoning to support this. They are active members of the NS community, and contain some of the most widely known NS players out there ( like SHAMPOO ). Skill wise, they are one of the best. Team work wise, they are one of the best. Clan wise, the suck. Just kidding - one of the best. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You forgot to mention that HAM probably has the world's best comm, giving them a huge edge in competetive play.
<!--QuoteBegin--Dadden+Oct 14 2003, 03:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dadden @ Oct 14 2003, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--pandas|RoQ+Oct 14 2003, 02:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pandas|RoQ @ Oct 14 2003, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> mmmm, crit nice post....we played .bm about 2 weeks ago and 2-0'd them (scrim). Also we're undefeated in all of CAL too... in fact technically we won the first 14 week preseason at 11-0-3, which was basically the same as sYn except they were 10-0-3...they had a bye or something or didn't play a match that never got recorded...
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> scrims count, they really DO! im not lying here, i promise -___- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> When a US clan plays a EU clan, which happens like once a month...ya i'd say so. Don't act like .bm was trying out some new strat on a top US team. They were playing to win, just like we were.
im the best comm ever. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> ,and i am aprt of the BEEF and the xam. clans also.
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Playing isnt fun when you lose. Winning is fun. A hard earned victory is fun. You cant deny it. That rush, that sudden adrenaline followed by a cool soothing feeling of calm marks it. You won, your adversary lost. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think it's <b>testosterone</b>, not adrenaline <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Not.
yeah they did I was plying for them lol
imo
1.HAM
2.dn
3.Pandas
4.Bacon Men
5.Torment
6.Exigent
7.evil
8.eR
9.xen
10.ir
Cx ain't too shabby either.
yeah they did I was plying for them lol<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well thats what scrims are for, the testing of strats, and considering ns 2.0 now is more about strategy than personal skill (on some level), I wouldn't feel too proud after winning one scrim.
I don't really see what all the big drama **** is about; ns 2.0 isn't even that fun/entertaining competitive wise.
Cx is a good clan and I don't blame them for being largly inactive and its nice to see a draft league admin talking **** about other clans, really gives you a good impression of nsdraft.
Why is eR so low on everyones list? I've always been impressed when I've played with them or against them, just because they've had a hard season doesnt mean they suck by any means.
*sigh* I hate drama... especially when it's ns drama <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
sox in 6
why u ask why torment !
THEY HAVE ONLY LOST 1 GAME EVER as in EVER<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now, what I have heard, they lost for #fek'lyrs.
And my opinion. I vote for .bm. They have hell of a comm, JustMe, and very good teamplay. Torment comes near behind. And no, I dont have any experience of US clans.
why u ask why torment !
THEY HAVE ONLY LOST 1 GAME EVER as in EVER<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#cri has never lost a cal match? Does that make them better? They are like 12-0-2 or something for both seasons.
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around.
An old dead thread of mine rises to feed on the flesh of the living (and make drama).
Carry on.
sox in 6 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL!!!!!!
<b>HELL YES!</b>
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
scrims count, they really DO! im not lying here, i promise -___-
sox in 6 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL!!!!!!
<b>HELL YES!</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Winners are always hated, yankees will win the world series.
(ignore off topicness)
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Yeah <3 pandas. Don't go away.
.torment.
.BM
HAM
dn`
pandas
i have scrimmed with all of those teams, and theres very little between them, i dont think i can put those into a list of who is best or whatever, because on the off chance that they play a game and the result isnt 2-2, then they could have a game the next day and the other team would squeeze a victory. I suppose you can rank it by CAL, but its hard to really say a best clan in the world, as when euro clans play USA clans the pings are always a big factor.
But if I had to throw out the best clans, as far as talent, teamwork, and potential:
-These are not in any order, because that would be contradictory to what I said above-
Damage Network [ dn` ]: I really do enjoy playing agains these guys. They're roughly some of the most skilled marines I have seen to date. Formerly SiD, they handed HTO an **** whooping back in 1.04, and since then they have been a strong presence in the NS community.
HAM: Thought by many to be the most talented of ALL clans out there, there's definately reasoning to support this. They're active members of the NS community, and contain some of the most widely known NS players out there ( like SHAMPOO ). Skill wise, they are one of the best. Team work wise, they are one of the best. Clan wise, the suck. Just kidding - one of the best.
Infinite Reverance [ ir. ]: <BIAS>Despite the cheesy name and tag, this clan, in which I am proud to be a member of, has really come together. Contrary to popular belief, this is not apex 2.0, but a more concise and productive group of players that have played together ( some since 1.00 ). We scrim regularly and while we aren't the most skilled players ( I suck at bunnyhopping =/ ) we still pack a punch and can be formidable. </BIAS>
Exigent [ exigent| ]: Some of the exigent players are real life friends ( or even related ) and quite honestly, I wish my friends played NS if it would help me play like them. Skill wise, they have some of the players out there and just recruited a very, very skilled player of ReD fame. They're a bit unpredictable which makes them even more dangerous. Even though their name is ridiculous, their play is not.
Pandas [ pandas| ]: Probably the most notorious clan of 1.04 fame other than HAM. They may be kind, fun loving pandas, but they are seriously good. What they lack in time they make up for in skill and teamwork. If I had to get a CAL match, I'd hope that the completely non panda affiliated Brad would not place me against them.
Evolution Revolution [ eR ]: I remember playing eR in my first ever CAL match with HTO. We tied them even though they were favored to win 18-1 ( I was the one ). We were thrilled, they weren't. What'd they do? Practice their **** off and became one of the most potent clans in NS. Great team that has survived a blow several clans have not - the test of time.
Those are the clans I think are the best out there. I did put my clan on the list, but I honestly believe we belong on it ( so do others). Others may disagree, but hey - thats where the drama comes in!
PSI in autralia.. ROFL.. PSI was the top clan in 1.04 at least in indo/australian, singapore, malaysia, thailand, japan, china
hmm.. in 2.0 i dare say that hfactor is the top clan in S.E.A <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
maybe u should scrim wif PSI to know their PROWESS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
You forgot to mention that HAM probably has the world's best comm, giving them a huge edge in competetive play.
Anyways, I don't care too much I don't know how much longer we'l be around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
scrims count, they really DO! im not lying here, i promise -___- <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
When a US clan plays a EU clan, which happens like once a month...ya i'd say so. Don't act like .bm was trying out some new strat on a top US team. They were playing to win, just like we were.
maybe some real drama is starting to boil in this thread after all.
I COULD BUY MYSELF A freaking COUNTRY.
Edit: This forum should allow more immature banter such as swear words.