To All Admins
LogicBox
Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21484Members
Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21484Members
<div class="IPBDescription">game Servers</div> Ok first of all, some of yall might have seen me LogicBox and . around your servers we are frequent NS players and soon will be donating money to NS team soon as i get some. SoD and AL guys are about our favorite clans. Now I have been on to many servers where the admins that are on Will cheat and help there team out. Or just get mad when you kick their ****, I know iam not the only that say this but where are all the GOOD admins. And iam not saying all the servers are bad, I am just saying its becoming a majority of the ADMINS that are just plane LLAMA's. For all the other Admins Doing there job, KEEP IT UP!
SoD YALL ROCK!!!!
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SoD YALL ROCK!!!!
L8rs <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->
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a.) Don't play on places with crappy admins. . . there are tons of other servers out there
b.) Don't play anywhere where they will make you an admin before they know you, I've seen some people do this and I just laugh, they are probably just doing it because they desperately want a player base, but this is not the way to start a server
c.) If you are an admin, then think of the other people that are playing with you, just becasue you think what you're doing is funny doesn't mean everyone does. . . I personally don't enjoy watching a jper with godmode on go around and weld all the hives to death after MS has been taken out, and the rest of the team is dead.
d.) If you are a server owner, keep track of your admins, not necessarily hound them all the time, but make sure they are behaving, and doing what they should be doing.
You may think the admins are being unfair, but take the vent on ns_bast. Fades/Gorge/Lerk can still shoot though it, even though it has been patched.. This is an exploit IMO (no, I don't care what you think) so I get mad at the people who still stay there because they "dont hear the 2 csays and the say"
Now see, I am a big supporter of admin_fun on (it allows any player to glow if they choose to), and I no one has ever said they don't like it.. SV_Cheats is another story.. its too easy to crash the server/lag everyone with it.. I would never turn it on.. it seems fun in theory.. but its really not.. the only way to get rid of it is to end the round, otherwise invul stays..
Also:
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So what if you donate money? That means that everyone should be nice to you? Yes, I know you are helping develop NS, and being nice.. Its even said that Constellation should not be treated as a reward system.. (Search the forums, you'll find it)
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Sv_cheats is not something small.. usually this means you have some type of RCON to the server... no laughing matter. In 1.04, you could crash the server with 1 command, if cheats were on. It seems fun.. I had someone crash a small hlds on my comp, in about a minute after cheats were turned on. (It wasn't on purpose)
Its not fun spending more time dealing with idiots.. I shouldn't have to treat anyone like a baby, I want to play the game.. not deal with you.
I want to thank you all for not mentioning specific server names/IPs..This may acutally be the first post I have seen that dosen't complain about a specific server
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Only a handful of which are worth playing on unfortunalty. I've got a regular server again since my last one went down, but when it's empty, there's only 3 or 4 other good servers to pick from, IMO. This is based on max player count, skill of regular players, too many reserved slots, ping, and of course crappy admins and server rules.
Where was this poll at?
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I doubt you were "banded" from a lot of servers for cheating, more like being egotistical and elitest. Ya, I have played with you, not the most enjoyable experience. Your post sounds like a grumpy man who just needs to vent at people. Admins aren't chosen at random, and no NSPlayer will ever be admin. So please, taking your whining somewhere else, like IRC, where there's always !kb.
No, LM has not gone steam yet, thank God.
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<a href='http://www.serverspy.net/site/serverranks/index.html?g=0&ty=ns&country=ssany&sname=&Submit=Show+Servers' target='_blank'>http://www.serverspy.net/site/serverranks/...it=Show+Servers</a>
Oh well we are number two now, but we where number 1 for a few weeks.
The bottom line is this, like it or not: The server owner can run a server exactly as they choose. As with all communities, in real life and in cyberspace, like minded people conglomerate as if by magic: you will find a server with a community that suits you, but it may take you some time - or you might have to create it, as I did.
Adminning is both a privilege and an enourmous responsibility. The privilege lies in the fact that you are able to contribute something back to the community of which you are a part, the responsibilities however are much greater than this: countless games are ruined for admins purely because there are still people who don't know this: If it's not your server, you have NO RIGHTS there. That may sound harsh, but it's the truth. If you don't pay a penny to the upkeep of the server, if you spend no time in making it a better place, what precisely *are* you adding.
Most server operators want to run servers so:
a) they have somewhere to play the game they love
b) that place is under their control, they can run it how they like
c) Their friends and comrades can join them there, and often help to run the community
and lastly and usually least of these...:
d) To provide a server for the wider community.
I'm not talking to anyone specifically here, so don't get all defensive on me.
If you like a server, stay there. If you don't - add it to your "don't join again" list. Simple as that. What you shouldn't do (and thankfully no-one here has, and I hope it stays that way) - is bash the server or the admins on the open forums.
As was once said in the immortal words of joev (<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=14&t=44617' target='_blank'>found here:</a> <!--QuoteBegin--joev+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (joev)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It seems it is impossible to have discussions on 'servers' without it degenerating into fueds and petty squabbles.
Server operators do a huge service to this community and as such, even if they run the servers in a way that I personally or any of you, do not agree with, are entitled to some respect for the effort, materials and even money they put into it.
It is *very* hard to build up a reputation for a server. It takes a lot of work and dedication. Conversely, it's very easy for some mal-content to destroy that same reputation with a word or scentence.
The simple fact of the matter is that no server will suit 100% of people. If you don't like a server, then go play elsewhere. We're not interested in hearing (here) why you don't like it.
So, we're putting a moratorium on discussions of servers.
- 'Bad' server threads because there are no 'Bad' servers, there are only servers that some people don't like.
- 'Good' server threads because they inevitably descend into "Bad Server" threads.
Server Operators and/or Fans may still *advertise* their servers in the appropriate places, however stick to the FACTS and keep opinions out of it.
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Roo
I ran a 24/7 ns_siege005 and missilecommand server for a long run (about a month)... it was a blast!
version 1.04 [BioTek]... i admined under Trev.. Trevelyan... and [BioTek]Trevelyan
But the clan disintegrated, but i guess a Firearms friend of mine would like to start a NS server with me, i might have to do that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I only had to ban 2 people for constantly using that impulse "uber leap" exploit, other then that i just had fun with the rest of the team <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
they come in different flavours, sizes and strength.
Some crisps will be sharp and cut your tongue. Some contain unwanted...objects in the packet. Some taste plain nasty, and some may give you food poisoning.
I'm an admin on Wireplay NS and the Readyroom server, I generally consider myself as a more "liberal" admin, but if you repeatedly break the rules of the servers I admin, expect me to be on your case like a skulk to a 14'oz cooked marine steak...hmm....steak......
Just my take on the admin thingy. Yes I do have food on the brain, but fortunately I have an ample supply of food here at school, well, as long as no-one misses the year 7s.... (hehehe) Plenty left where they came from O-o.
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Hehehe
You got to love that reasoning. "I get banned everywhere... so everyone must be wrong!". Sooner or later you're gonna have to start suspecting yourself <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway... server owners chose who is admin, or chose who picks the admins. There are good admins and bad admins, if you don't like bad admins don't play on their servers or take it up with the server owner.
I've admined servers for... way too long. I'm also on a group that checks into admin malpractise and appeals on bans. My experience tells me that 99% of the time it's just some annoying punk whining and the admin was right to ban him, the other 1% we try to fix it.
Also, <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=14&t=44617' target='_blank'>here</a> is a link to the rule about posting about servers on the forum, I think some peopl need to read it.
Can't have too much of a good thing...
Roo
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