Cs:cz Gold

pardzh · October 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Finally...</div> <a href='http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=28718' target='_blank'>Shacknews</a>.

Good or bad? You tell me. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

<i>Edit:</i> Whoopsie, my bad, it's going gold Friday.

BlackMage · October 2003

ive had that on preorder ... for EVER

Gliss · October 2003

It seemed better a few years ago, now it just looks like CS with new models =\.

I don't get it--what's it supposed to be?

Mullet · October 2003

I shat on counter-strike. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

My predictions are: CS CZ will be no more or no less than CS. It will be a big hit for a week, until everyone figures out that it's nothing new.

Are they using the hl engine?

DOOManiac · October 2003

Remember kids, its not gold till its gold. Especially for valve. :P

Mullet · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Oct 8 2003, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Remember kids, its not gold till its gold. Especially for valve. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Hmm....good point.

When has valve ever been on time with one of their games? I'm reading a PC Gamer from like 3+ years ago and they have TFC2 on there, saying how it will be out soon. Laff... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

The old pc gamers ruled...they were more than like 50 pages.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Jammer · October 2003

Yeah, but most were ads. I remeber havnig a 300 page one. Seriously, it was a bridal magazine for gamers.

<3!

Those victory conditions seem weird. Is it going to be like Tony Hawk Pro Sniper or something? Huh?

Align · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pjofsky @ Oct 9 2003, 05:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It seemed better a few years ago, now it just looks like CS with new models =\.

I don't get it--what's it supposed to be?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
SinglePlayer CS, with some new stuff. Like the terrorists have LAW launchers or whatever...

Venmoch · October 2003

WOOHOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PWN!!!!!!

YAY!!!!!!!!

<span style='font-size:7.1pt;line-height:100%'>And so on and so forth</span>

esuna · October 2003

I was looking forward to this initially, for one reason or another. But after reading a review in PC Zone a month or so back, it made me think twice. From what i gathered from that review, and one or two other pages about the game, the single player is a pretty mediocre affair with little to no teamwork involved. The missions are repetative and boring and the whole thing's over before you know it. Think of it as a heavily watered-down Rainbow Six.

But that's not what people are buying it for really. People are buying it for the multiplayer. And from screenshots it looks nothing more than a slightly updated Half-Life engine with slightly higher-poly models. The maps and textures appear just the same as before and the arsenal isn't vastly changed at all (Except there is now a welder / cutting tool).

PC Zone ended in saying that the single player isn't worth the money and the multiplayer is just CS repackaged with shiney new graphics. And to be honest, you're probably better off just playing CS with high-poly models. At least that way you're £30 better off.

Venmoch · October 2003

PC-Zone reviewed a <b>VERY</b> old (In development times) build of the game. (It hadn't even gone gold)

I am still looking forward to this though as I know Ritual are amazing level designers. Plus I want a watered down Rainbow Six. Rainbow Six is fun but sometimes you just want to run in and shoot a lot of stuff.

-EDIT- I don't think I've ever heard of Rainbox Six. I blame the keyboard -EDIT-

Tenebrae · October 2003

I think I know what I'll be buying next month! The mission completing thing sounds a little dodgy though, it's gonna be hard to complete anything on Expert.

Maus · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Oct 9 2003, 04:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Remember kids, its not gold till its gold. Especially for valve. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes. And I don't want it to go gold because I'm too attached to the idea that CZ is just a big smokescreen for a top-secret CS2. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

edit, after reading the article:

wth? I thought CZ was supposed to be an actual genuine single-player game. One with a script and a plot and other important features to make it worth playing. Not just CS with bots. Hmm, no - I'm not interested in the game at all now.

DOOManiac · October 2003

CS2 isn't all that top secret... Everybody knows its been in dev since around 2000 or so :P

Maus · October 2003

True. I suppose Gooseman's project that "may or may not be CS2" kind of gave the game away.

SoulSkorpion · October 2003

I was under the impression that CS:CZ was going to run on the HL2 engine. How's it possible for it to be out before HL2, especially in light of the code theft?

Venmoch · October 2003

CS:CZ was a first person single player Anti-Terrorist thing. (On the HL engine)

Well it was it seems....

CS2 is coming on the Half-Life 2 engine.

Align · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Oct 9 2003, 12:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...wth? I thought CZ was supposed to be an actual genuine single-player game. One with a script and a plot and other important features to make it worth playing. Not just CS with bots. Hmm, no - I'm not interested in the game at all now.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Uh.
Bots use AI.
The monsters in HL use AI too.

See the connection? The AI might be different, but it's likely to be as good as the HL monsters AI, or better.

Maus · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Oct 9 2003, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> See the connection? The AI might be different, but it's likely to be as good as the HL monsters AI, or better.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
That's not what I have a problem with - I was just led to believe that the game would be story-driven, not some kind of botmatch.

Unless of course there's a story-driven thing in there too, and the bots are for a different game mode kind of thing.

Cr-ck · October 2003

CS:CZ -- CS SUCKS!

Anyway... CS:CZ Uses the HL1 engine and its going to suck <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> There is only 1 cool thing about it..I hear that if you complete something you get a special model/skin to play online and everyone else can see it but cant use it till they have completed that mission.

In other news: cz has been leaked

Monkfish · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cr/-\ck @ Oct 9 2003, 09:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I hear that if you complete something you get a special model/skin to play online and everyone else can see it but cant use it till they have completed that mission.
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whoop de frikkety do

SoulSkorpion · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 9 2003, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>CS:CZ was a first person single player Anti-Terrorist thing. (On the HL engine)

Well it was it seems....

CS2 is coming on the Half-Life 2 engine.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Oooooh. Now I get it. Thanks <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Cr-ck · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-]sonic[- @ Oct 9 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cr/-\ck @ Oct 9 2003, 09:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I hear that if you complete something you get a special model/skin to play online and everyone else can see it but cant use it till they have completed that mission.
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
whoop de frikkety do  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Thats the only neat thing in cz...unless you want to 'pwn a noob'

BlackMage · October 2003

if i have my dates right .... this was coming out before ns was released
and my preorder should have before i heard of ns (1.04)

enf0rcer · October 2003

The only reason i might have bought CS:CZ was if it was on the HL2 engine. Since it's not i'll just wait till people hack the models for good old cs. If there is a CS2 for the HL2 engine that's where my money will be. I find i still enjoy a good round of cs every now and then but i dont think a couple of new guns and maps is worth my money. We'll see when the reviews come out in hordes.

LemurZoboomafoo · October 2003

How can something go gold before even a single copy has been sold?

Venmoch · October 2003

Its gone gold in the sense it's ready to be distributed.

Well it runs on the Half-Life engine (Kinda, its a heavilly modded one)

It may look shoddy in places but man those character models and weapons look good....

I mean look at the SAS member.

<img src='http://www.ritualistic.com/screens/cz/renders/chars.sas.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

I mean thats the Half-Life engine!

But then again Ritual are gods when it somes to Level design and Art.

Dirty_Harry_Potter · October 2003

there are 2 definitions of Gold, IIRC:
1. the game is done - coding and testing wise - now it only needs packing and shipping
2. the game has been sold a specific amount of times, this can happen before it's release - thanks to preorderings

Twex · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>But then again Ritual are gods when it somes to Level design and Art.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The way I understand it, all of Ritual's work on CS will go straight to the <a href='http://www.ritualistic.com//forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=142325&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1' target='_blank'>trashbin</a>. Valve decided to rush out a hastily compiled botmatch instead.

Venmoch · October 2003

That really is odd......

I wonder whats going on....

Liku · October 2003

What's it mean if it, "Goes gold?"

Cs:cz Gold

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