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SpadeXSpadeX Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21096Members
edited September 2003 in New Player Forum
I heard about this game at a Tribes forum, in a topic where another member was talking about how he'd want a strategy game to play. I went to to the Natural Selection website and got interested, so I'm going to be buying Half-Life in a couple of days.

My question, is the hard to get into? I read some information at the site and got confused. Is it easier once you just jump in and play?

Edit: Wrong forum, sorry.

Comments

  • JohnnySmashJohnnySmash Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18870Members
    For the FPS part play Marines first and you'll adapt quickly. Aliens are a bit harder.

    As for commanding, it's a good idea that you play as Marines for a while to get an idea of what certain stuff does. Also you should check out a commander strategy guide. I think there's one at nonoobs.com.

    Savage is a new game that's a pretty good RTS/FPS game. You might want to check that out.

    -JohnnySmash
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    edited September 2003
    Depending on the mood of the other players in the server, you may or may not find it easy to learn the ways of the game. NS is an extremely intense game, and 1 player can make or break the game, so often times people are not as forgiving of new players as they should be.

    My suggestion is just to read up in the new players forum to get the basics down, and then jump in a game. I would *not* reccomend getting into a server and saying "hi, i just got this game, what should I do". That may cause a less than friendly reaction from the people on your team. If you are aliens, run towards concentrations of circles, that will get you into the action fastest. If you are marines, just run towards any waypoint your commander gives you, or just follow other marines around.

    Good luck, and welcome to NS!
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    ahhh... much you to learn to have super happy fun time which brings you much joy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'd personally recommend the aliens first actually, because it feels like you get cut more slack on their side and you can pretty much go nuts without damaging them as much as the marines would suffer if you did the same thing on their team ^^;
    If you can get a lan together with some friends or find one of the supposed 'newbie' servers then experience is the best teacher really <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    just try and make sure you have a rough idea of what building does what and what unit does what and you should be somewhat ok-ish =s
  • TyrNemesisTyrNemesis trigger_CUT&#33; Join Date: 2003-09-17 Member: 20942Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Welcome to NS, and to a new world of happy and fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    NS can be hard to get the hang of, because you truly do depend on teamwork. The best thing to learn quickly isn't how to frag well, but how to help out your team. You'll win a lot of a games if you learn how to be a builder alien and use your initial resources to help your team establish expansions.

    If you do something wrong, and people yell at you, don't take it personally. Just ask how you were supposed to do whatever you did, and there'll surely be someone who's nice enough to explain it to you in proper english.

    My #1 tip for a new player: Stick around near another player. You can probably manage to steal a kill or two in this way even if you aren't good, and you can learn a lot from someone with experience <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    tribes2 is harder to get into than any HL mod.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <span style='color:orange'>*Phase gated*</span> to the New Player forum (with handy-dandy referring link left in General so our new addition to the community won't think his thread disappeared into thin air. Welcome to the forums!)
  • WraithXBladeWraithXBlade Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21102Members
    Hey guys, thanks for all those tips, i'm just starting in this game too, hell, i haven't even finished downloading it, i'm at 116mb and shivering from eagerness. I was wondering what connection speed would you guys say is the minimum for playing, I have 56k. hopefully i'll get cable soon. also if there are any other important and good tips you guys got for all the nebs comeing in? Thanks a whole lot.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    edited September 2003
    <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/manual/index.html' target='_blank'>Here is something that would help you</a>

    Edit: Link Fixed
  • WraithXBladeWraithXBlade Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21102Members
    Yeah i scimmed over it, and since i have to update my half life, i'll have plenty of time to read it. And if anybody knows, would 56K be ok for playing?
  • Cartman2beCartman2be Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21103Members
    a 56k is okay... I play with ADSL from the uk on american servers probably because im crazy :/

    Anyway, welcome.. I was a forUmer here before, forgot my password :'(
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    yay lo cartman <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> i think ya know meh. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cartman2beCartman2be Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21103Members
    edited September 2003
    Ah.. Cookiez <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Ello mate <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • uberbrokeuberbroke Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2438Members
    Welcome to Natural Selection!

    My advice I can give for being an obedient soldier and a cunning alien:

    Marine/Frontiersman:
    Follow your commander's orders and waypoints. This is foremost important. If you played any RTS game such as starcraft, you know you want your grunts to respond to your orders percisely. So be a good grunt, follow orders.

    Also, do not engage alienbuildings unless you have proper backup and the commander's attention. ALL aliens (except dead ones) in the game are warned immediately to the attack and will respond, especially if it is an resource chamber or hive you are attacking.

    And of course, look up and around when entering every room.

    Aliens/Khaara:
    In the beginning, your objective is to either recon/slow down the marines as a skulk or to put up RT (resource chamber/tower) as a gorge. I would not recommend gorging on the first run as aliens... Start a LAN game for yourself and run around as a skulk, remembering the room names (appears in the lower left corner above the hp/armor). When you atleast have a vague idea of how the maps are set up, you are ready for gorge. For advanced gorge tactics, follow/guard a gorge you know is good.

    As a skulk, (lowest life form) never run straight at marines... Remeber that all you have is bite and parasite (consult manual for info on techs... May be rather outdated), so try to start all confrontation with an ambush or engage from very close range, circle strafing.

    Smooth-looking yellow (and red when you have scent of fear) circles are enemy Marines which are parasited. Try to use this to your advantage. (set up ambushes)

    There are 4 other life forms as aliens, all with very unique abilities and specific roles in the team. Follow these players and learn from their behavior.

    And most of all, have fun, and don't give up!
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SpadeX+Sep 22 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SpadeX @ Sep 22 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard about this game at a Tribes forum, in a topic where another member was talking about how he'd want a strategy game to play. I went to to the Natural Selection website and got interested, so I'm going to be buying Half-Life in a couple of days.

    My question, is the hard to get into? I read some information at the site and got confused. Is it easier once you just jump in and play? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Welcome to the game <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Reading material about the game (discussion about strategies, stories from the game etc) is damn near impossible unless you understand how the game works already. Trying to play the game without knowing anything about it is... possible. But it's not advised, because it makes your life un-necessarily difficult (not to mention your teammates'!)

    The thing about NS is, since it's such a complex game there's a lot of background information you need to know. Fortunately, it's not difficult to learn this information, and it can (and should) be done offline. Well, maybe not offline, but off-game.

    NS is complex because it's a hybrid of real time strategy and first person shooter. You can jump right into it as much as you can jump right into Starcraft or Command and Conquer. The trick is to think of it as a first person real time strategy game; that way it doesn't seem so strange to have tech trees and upgrades and structures and stuff.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--WraithXBlade+Sep 22 2003, 06:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WraithXBlade @ Sep 22 2003, 06:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah i scimmed over it, and since i have to update my half life, i'll have plenty of time to read it. And if anybody knows, would 56K be ok for playing? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    56K should be fine. back in 1.0x, when the server operations were horrible unoptimised, a 56k-re could be shouted off the server as everybody's pings suddenly rocketed to 500.

    thankfully, that doesnt happen much these days. make sure you find yourself a local freindly server and you'll do fine
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=44597&st=0#entry608457' target='_blank'>Here</a> is my guide to marines. I'll finish the aliens section this weekend or when I feel like it, since school has started I'm a little full in the hands here.

    Grab a coke and read on, newbeh! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=44597&st=0#entry608457' target='_blank'>Haze's guide. Grab a Coke®, you're in for a long story bub.</a>
  • WraithXBladeWraithXBlade Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21102Members
    That's good that 56k is good enough to play. Also, just to confirm this, you can only get ammo and new weapons from the commander when he drops it, correct?
  • AutumnTwilightAutumnTwilight Join Date: 2002-08-27 Member: 1244Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--WraithXBlade+Sep 24 2003, 09:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WraithXBlade @ Sep 24 2003, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's good that 56k is good enough to play. Also, just to confirm this, you can only get ammo and new weapons from the commander when he drops it, correct? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, for the weapons, no for the ammo. The only way you can recieve weapons other than your standard default weapons you spawn with (Light Machine Gun and Pistol), is to have the commander drop them for you. Technically, when another marine with a weapon dies, he'll drop the weapon, which will remain for about 30 seconds, and you could grab it from his body, but this doesn't happen too often.

    As for the ammo, yes, the commander can drop ammo for you, or you can hold down your "use" key while facing the armory building, and it will dispense ammo for whatever weapon you are currently using. This takes no resources to do, whereas dropping ammo for you does, so using the armory is always preferable if close by.

    I hope this helps, and welcome to Natural Selection...

    Twilight
  • SakuraSakura Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13789Members, Constellation
    Cronos wrote a really good beginner's guide to Natural Selection. It covers all the basics and you should check it out <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=47093' target='_blank'>here</a>.

    Welcome to NS! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • WraithXBladeWraithXBlade Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21102Members
    Tanks guy, i hope to see you on the battle field.
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