Friendly Fire

Drewbar99 · September 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">is it ever used in NS?</div> I've never seen a NS server have Friendly Fire on <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> , which is good in some cases, but at certain points, u jus want to have a little bit more realism, casue having Marines constantly firing at Aliens while the block each others fire, u jus want them to die from their own fire.

I WANT FRIENDLY FIRE <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>

MrMojo · September 2003

I think there's a couple :O....dunno, pretty sure tournament mode has FF.

Xiile · September 2003

Many servers run it, just look around, our server usually runs it, usually (look in sig)...

Cr-ck · September 2003

Trust me, You dont want FF on.

stick100 · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cr/-\ck @ Sep 24 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Trust me, You dont want FF on. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Its fun.

I like champtons a ton. High level play there and people gotta be careful.

However you need admin like no other, or you just gotta leave once the ff starts.

BattleTech · September 2003

Or having a Skulk biting your hive to death...

Cr-ck · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BattleTech @ Sep 24 2003, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Or having a Skulk biting your hive to death...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
lol thats alot of fun BITE THE HIVE! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Swift_Idiot · September 2003

FF relies on a lack of stupidity. It's kind of an honor system thing. That being the case, since a large portion of the online gaming community are immature, witless teenagers, good luck finding a whole lot of servers that cater to the Pro-FF crowd. There are some, but usually they are regulated quite well, or they are members only. RedPhive server 2 is a great place to play, frankly.

Maveric · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift Idiot @ Sep 24 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> FF relies on a lack of stupidity. It's kind of an honor system thing. That being the case, since a large portion of the online gaming community are immature, witless teenagers, good luck finding a whole lot of servers that cater to the Pro-FF crowd.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
dont you mean kids instead of teenagers? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

DarkDude · September 2003

FF is fun.... until one jackass decides to scare the ENTIRE team by bitting the hive and sending out an alert. Ugg, that gets annoying VERY fast.

But may I recommend: 24.207.0.211:27015 redphive.org -2- NS 2.01-RC2 [C-D REQUIRED]

They have the mode set to tourny last time I checked, which means FF. But you'd better sign up at Redphive.org (it's free) before you play there or you will be kicked to let in people who have signed up, and that's a hell of alot of people. Great server though, tourny mode is a hard thing to keep track of and they do a good job with it.

JazzX · September 2003

Tourney mode is generally used for Matches/Scrims and is the mode used for all games played for CAL and UGL. You'll see that some clan servers which are open to the public have it enabled at least some of the time, as well as a few general public servers such as the redphive server (where I am a regular) as mentioned above.

We've been running it for 2 or 3 weeks now and it works very well, mainly because we have a very large group of regular players that, on top of a very good set of admins, keep the games flowing and don't tollerate TK'ers and their ilk.

taboofires · September 2003

Heh. A few months of clan play will show you how awful FF is in NS. The marines have it easy for the most part; it's not that hard to avoid shooting each other. Melee classes, which includes most of the kharaa, completely have the fun sucked right out of them by the extremely unintuitive FF hit detection. There are so many ways to kill a fellow skulk on accident, even while being careful, and it's very irritating. Either someone will invariably wander in front of you while fighting or you'll kill somebody you aren't even looking at (like when group-attacking an rt) sums up most of the cases.

Even with 1/3 damage (I think that's the right number), a skulk can still kill another skulk mighty fast. Throw in somebody actually shooting you, and it gets much faster.

FF also gives wonderful opportunities for griefers. When you can knife your own IP or bite your own hive to death, things can start to suck real fast.

Blackprince · September 2003

I have once played on a FF on mode....O my Marine dies like flies......

It is on the disadvantage on the Marine as if u go in groups and the skulk just jump ard, most likely ur team will injure u and the skulk just ...yum yum yum....all marine die in no time.

Not to mention some irritating faggots like to injure team mate or kill own hive/base etc....

Drk1 · September 2003

RedPhive NS-2 has it on... it rocks.
1: keeps away the n00bs
2: skulks have a chance against HA trains (just jump in the middle and hope they shoot each other)
3: nade spam is actually dangerous to rines too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
4: onos cant charge/gore randomly if there are other aliens around
5: you can execute smacktards
6: aliens don't die when hive does, they can cloak and build a new one slowly <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> = dead gorge AND dead rines

Brad_R · September 2003

mp_tournamentmode 1

sk84zer0 · September 2003

i think there would be alot more FF servers once someone makes a meta mod like the FF ones for CS. That slay the Tker or sumthing. Otherwise people will just kill the hive or what not.

someone · September 2003

If you bite the hive when FF is on, it brings you good luck, honest <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Cxwf · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (D/|rk @ Sep 24 2003, 10:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> RedPhive NS-2 has it on... it rocks.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I just went to RedPHive to try it out. Yes it was fun, except for 2 problems.

1. Very hard to have multiple marines gang up to knife an alien res tower without knifing each other. Probably same problem for skulks, but haven't tested it.

2. Marines can't lose. I mean they literally cannot lose--server bug or something. Two games in a row, the marines were totally destroyed by the aliens, and then....nothing happened. We all sat around waiting for a few minutes. Eventually we convinced the aliens to go munch on their own hives, and then all commit suicide, so the next map could start.

We couldn't even F4 out--it was blocked on that server.

JazzX · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cxwf @ Sep 25 2003, 02:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>2. Marines can't lose. I mean they literally cannot lose--server bug or something.
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
A plugin, developed by Prodigy, on the RedPhive servers called <a href='http://myhladmin.com/' target='_blank'>HLA (short for myHalfLifeAdmin)</a> is what was blocking the use of f4. The newest version of the plugin also includes code which forces team selection upon joining the server to avoid player stacking on one team or another. It appears that this new code has created a weird bug that causes the game not to end even though the losing team is totally dead and lack the ability to spawn (IP or hive). A lot of times when one of the players on the winning team dies the game will then end.

A very cool plugin overall, but it does have a weird bug or two. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

RoCkIn_RiCkY · September 2003

FF is a good idea. Makes the game a little more realistic and stops marines from nade spamming as much.

Drk1 · September 2003

Yeah Cxwf I was there that game... that's not every time. Most of the time it works perfectly, that was the first time ever for me.

I'm not sure about other servers... but R5 has a feature that you can either slay or forgive after getting tked, but its never a good idea to slay the comm... bug-o-rama.

Octavian · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Blackprince @ Sep 24 2003, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Not to mention some irritating faggots like to injure team mate or kill own hive/base etc....</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I would prefer if we got away from using words like 'faggot' and other terms for homosexuals as if they were insults. Its probably a forum rule too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

BigMadSteve · September 2003

I've played a few clan games and I now I absolutely hate FF. If your in a hectic battle you need to really careful. Also, if you want the attention of the gorge (for healing) you can't bite him <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

taboofires · September 2003

TKer-kickers and whatnot won't really help. FF is fundamentally flawed in melee situations (or at least in HL), and it's a major part of NS. There are accidental TKs all over the place, no griefers required (but they benefit too).

Ots · September 2003

FF is a big no no, if you want FF, join a clan, play with them. And hope they wont shoot you.

Friendly Fire

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