Savage

ArmoRArmoR Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21151Members
Not sure if anyone else has posted this, bit i would just like your thoughts on it. espically if some of you have played the game.

This is a quote from a store selling Savage.

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Choose to be a commander, and play an in-depth RTS game, that requires you to research technologies, mine resources, and issue orders to your units. Choose to be a warrior, and play an intense game of first person combat, wielding your weapon of choice to strike down your enemy.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Assuming this game has been in development for a few years they are not really stealing ideas. But i wonder how similar it is. That quote above could very eaisly be about NS.

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Comments

  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    Yeah, its basically the same RTS/FPS hybrid, the main differences being that both sides have a commander, and the structures follow a more traditional RTS tech tree.

    Seeing as both games have been in development for several years, I dont think any claims of one of them stealing the concept from the other holds any weight.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
  • ArmoRArmoR Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21151Members
    Savage is a RTSS (Real Time Strategy Shooter), like natural selection.

    <a href='http://www.s2games.com/savage/' target='_blank'>Savage Homepage</a>
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    wow commander mode and everything <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    How come people say that X game might be ripping off of NS when basically thats the same as All the other FPS out there ripping off each other, or all the RTS games ripping off of C&C?

    Its just one of many in the same genre of games.

    Not trying to mock anyone here just asking. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    edited September 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->RTS games ripping off of C&C?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought Dune was the first RTS ?
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
    I just went to the local gaming store yesterday....

    No Savage yet <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ArmoRArmoR Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21151Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How come people say that X game might be ripping off of NS when basically thats the same as All the other FPS out there ripping off each other, or all the RTS games ripping off of C&C?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You seem to have misunderstood the point of my post. I made a point of saying that I didn’t think savage ripped off NS. I was just wondering what people thought of it.

    I think it is a bit cynical to say that all games rip off each other but i suppose it is arguable.

    I have no problem with savage been in the same genre as NS i think its a great type of game and there should be more of them out there.

    There is one problem i have with savage though:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->With the creation of a new game play genre, RTSS (Real Time Strategy Shooter), Savage expertly redefines the first-person shooter and real-time strategy genres by combining elements of both into one cohesive experience.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    S2 stating that they have created a new genre when NS has been around for ages seems a bit unfair. Sure NS is a mod and not a released game. But due to the likeness of the gameplay i think it perhaps unfair for them to claim that they are pioneers of RTSS.
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    The first well known FPS/RTS hybrid is in fact Battlezone, released in 1998 by Activision. There was probably one before that, but to state that Savage is the first, as the above quote suggests is a fallacious claim to any experienced gamer.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    STOP CREATING SAVAGE THREADS. Dear lord. So many.

    There's a thread about it in Off-topic that is probably the best place to talk about the game: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=47293&hl=savage' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...47293&hl=savage</a>
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    I actually thought about getting this but no stores around here had it.
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
    Same here.

    I'll check again this weekend. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I thought Dune was the first RTS ?
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    Try Dune 2. Dune was an RPG game by Cryo if I remember correctly.

    (And not too hot an RPG, at that.)
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    If anything
    NS was a pionere in the world of RTSFPS
    like Wolfenstein was for all FPSs
  • MordenMorden Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14045Members
    Savage is really fun, but I can't believe they would put out and RTS/FPS without some sort of voice comm support. It was a really bad move. Team cooridination in Savage is impossible unless you are with friends and you're all in the same Ventrilo channel.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    Check the O-T forum, please.

    Oh, and seeing that both NS.org and RR.org covered and advertised Savage, I can't really see how the officials are going to be mad at Savages devs for doing a similiar game.

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