yeah i like tht one. Should i not get a little credit for doing the original design? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> Maybe make the mag thicker?
yea, Chackle, i already mentioned ya when i said i use your original WWII thompson pic to revamp. so basically i took your brown thompson pic, and completely redesigned it to the one i posted in my first pic.
.....then from that i just rehauled the entire thing into this
what i dont get is where owens comes in? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--njroo ke+Sep 20 2003, 03:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (njroo ke @ Sep 20 2003, 03:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .....then from that i just rehauled the entire thing into this
what i dont get is where owens comes in? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ::shrug:: i just thought it looked curiously like tha grip off my .45 pistol....because Owen ripped tha grip off when he made his concept for a modernized thompson....
Besides the obvious fact that they're both pistol-style grips, I don't really see the resemblance... There's the nubs that fit between the fingers, and the side plates, but these are fairly common in super-modern firearm concepts. Most of what Sheena designs has either or both, for example. Yeah, yeah, you know her, I know her, she's a convenient example.
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion.
<!--QuoteBegin--=DD=Wolf Kahler+Sep 20 2003, 10:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (=DD=Wolf Kahler @ Sep 20 2003, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides the obvious fact that they're both pistol-style grips, I don't really see the resemblance... There's the nubs that fit between the fingers, and the side plates, but these are fairly common in super-modern firearm concepts. Most of what Sheena designs has either or both, for example. Yeah, yeah, you know her, I know her, she's a convenient example.
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Positioning, general shape (albeit slightly modified), and certain astetic features of tha Grip/trigger assembly are what make me suspiscious....
but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice...
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<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Sep 21 2003, 04:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Sep 21 2003, 04:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--=DD=Wolf Kahler+Sep 20 2003, 10:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (=DD=Wolf Kahler @ Sep 20 2003, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides the obvious fact that they're both pistol-style grips, I don't really see the resemblance... There's the nubs that fit between the fingers, and the side plates, but these are fairly common in super-modern firearm concepts. Most of what Sheena designs has either or both, for example. Yeah, yeah, you know her, I know her, she's a convenient example.
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Positioning, general shape (albeit slightly modified), and certain astetic features of tha Grip/trigger assembly are what make me suspiscious....
but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> or maybe because grips tend to be the same.. as they're supposed to fit the human hand? lol ^_^
<!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Sep 21 2003, 03:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Sep 21 2003, 03:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Sep 21 2003, 04:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Sep 21 2003, 04:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--=DD=Wolf Kahler+Sep 20 2003, 10:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (=DD=Wolf Kahler @ Sep 20 2003, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides the obvious fact that they're both pistol-style grips, I don't really see the resemblance... There's the nubs that fit between the fingers, and the side plates, but these are fairly common in super-modern firearm concepts. Most of what Sheena designs has either or both, for example. Yeah, yeah, you know her, I know her, she's a convenient example.
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Positioning, general shape (albeit slightly modified), and certain astetic features of tha Grip/trigger assembly are what make me suspiscious....
but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> or maybe because grips tend to be the same.. as they're supposed to fit the human hand? lol ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ::rolls eyes::
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
snake, the reason why people keep bringing up this argument is because you back down in the argument, however at the end of every single post, you state that^^ which is you implying that i did in fact take your grip... which i didnt.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rite there, youre saying no one will notice. notice what!? i didnt do anything. by saying that, saying that i still took the grip.
when youre admitting your wrong, dont end your post by saying "its okay, no one will notice"
and you wonder why people are still talking about it? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--njroo ke+Sep 21 2003, 11:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (njroo ke @ Sep 21 2003, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
snake, the reason why people keep bringing up this argument is because you back down in the argument, however at the end of every single post, you state that^^ which is you implying that i did in fact take your grip... which i didnt.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rite there, youre saying no one will notice. notice what!? i didnt do anything. by saying that, saying that i still took the grip.
when youre admitting your wrong, dont end your post by saying "its okay, no one will notice"
and you wonder why people are still talking about it? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i never said i was wrong...and i never directly accused you of using my work....however i did ask if you had used any of owen's work as reference...you never did answer that one...but if you did use any of his work, then chances are it's at least BASED off mine...
it does look a LOT like the grip/trigger assembly i used on my pistol and rifle, only with a few modifications...that's all i'm saying...
now, i'm not stressing over tha thing...it looks good....if i were stressing i'd be rabbid like "OMFGZ!, YOU STOLE MY ****, I DEMAND YOU TAKE IT DOWN!!"...do you see me doing that?....no, you don't....so let's just drop it, ok?
made this slipshod extruded boxes model from your origional idea <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (its about 1100 polys, because it's unoptimized, and very quickly made...)
<img src='http://thumbs.deviantart.com/300W-96A096/i/2003/38/6/4/NStommygun.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <a href='http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/3129446/' target='_blank'>Or this if the pic doesn't work.</a> <a href='http://www.deviantart.com/view/3129446/' target='_blank'>or this...</a>
From what I can see, I rather like that but the render is a bit dodgy..looks like Wings3d with a badly set up yafray render..
( No offence intended, I like the model, especially if it's a wip..)
Few more lights in there might help out. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
OMG Strapon2, dont have plans tomorrow cuz we're getting married.
dude, you made my concept come to life!! I LOVE YOU! proceed. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I can't find anyhting to render MS3d models in a smoothshaded fashon... I just exported/imported a .RAW file to "rhino3d" and rendered from there...
Right now I'm just fixing some stuff, making it fit together, plus trying to figure out stupid shading groups... grrr <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Please don't take my previous comments the wrong way mate, I like the model, and renderers can be hard to set up well ( as I'm rapidly discovering..:/ ).
I should also add, I like the composition and style of the render, it's just those very solid shadows make it difficult to see the detail and modelling..
Never used Rhino ( heard a lot of very positive things about it though..), is there maybe an option to up the AA on the render?, smooth things out a bit?
I dunno, renders are probably unimportant in HL engine models anyhow, just saying though..
Don't know how much use it will be, but Cinema 4D can be had free on coverdisks from PC mags, and it has a <i>gorgeous</i> render engine.
I honestly think you would have to <i>try</i> to produce an ugly render in Cinema, I love the thing, shame the modelling tools and interface seem rather clunky..( to me at least..)
Another option might be <a href='http://www.blender3d.org/' target='_blank'>Blender</a>, although the interface is bizarre at first..
OpenFX can be set up to provide decent renders as well ( linkys in stickied "how to" thread), and there are probably even better free options floating about..( I believe free versions of BMRT can be had from a Yahoo! group, although that's probably taking things a bit too far..)
Also, if your system is up to it ( mine sure aint..) I believe you can knock out good, but watermarked renders with <a href='http://www.softimage.com/products/exp/v3/' target='_blank'>Free limited version of Softimage XSI</a>
btw, I mentioned Wings and Yafray in my first post, I'm not slagging them at all, in fact I find Wings to be the most intuitive modeller I've ever seen, and yafray can produce some fabulous stuff, it's just a bit awkward to set up right..
<!--QuoteBegin--[DRS]Lt.S.Owen+Sep 21 2003, 01:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([DRS]Lt.S.Owen @ Sep 21 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Snake stop being a spooner. all i used was the trigger and handle... everything else is mine. end of... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LMMFAO!!
that;s all i said you did....lol...
christ, u guys need to sit back and realize i was making an observation, not an accusation...
and Owen..i'll stop being a spooner, when you stop being a tosser.. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
heres a medly of pics, taken in MS3d... after smoothshading was completed. I should optimaize it some more and try and skin it. (too bad my computer can't do the texture coordination window for some reason...)
(plus the site i post these on squash the immage, so i had to add a gutter really fast, looks a bit wierd..)
Well, I was bored and wanted to try learn how to use the smoothing groups in mshape, aswell as get back into modeling after my computer crash. So heres what i threw together in 6-7 hours. everything except the cylinders are face-by-face created as always <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
This could evolve into a really unique model/skin pack! OMG Nazi skulks, an onos with hitlers head, a gorge with a nazi helmet, BAR for heavy machine gun, GI-esque light marines, a sherman tank like heavy marine, a stuka dive bomber lerk, a shade wearing nazi uniform carrying a Panzerfaust!!!!!11111 Oh yah, nice model.
<!--QuoteBegin--~#Jesus#~+Sep 21 2003, 06:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (~#Jesus#~ @ Sep 21 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This could evolve into a really unique model/skin pack! OMG Nazi skulks, an onos with hitlers head, a gorge with a nazi helmet, BAR for heavy machine gun, GI-esque light marines, a sherman tank like heavy marine, a stuka dive bomber lerk, a shade wearing nazi uniform carrying a Panzerfaust!!!!!11111 Oh yah, nice model. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ehhh... NO!
Who the **** wants onoses with Hitles head??? Grow up man...
[EDIT] Oh.. and dont even bother ro explain that it was a joke cuz I dont freaking laugh in the glas. <---- (Lockstock comment) You are the first person in this forum that lost all my respect cuz that post was just stupid. Try to be just a little more serious and you might get some of it back... [EDIT]
<!--QuoteBegin--Nottingham+Sep 21 2003, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nottingham @ Sep 21 2003, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--~#Jesus#~+Sep 21 2003, 06:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (~#Jesus#~ @ Sep 21 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This could evolve into a really unique model/skin pack! OMG Nazi skulks, an onos with hitlers head, a gorge with a nazi helmet, BAR for heavy machine gun, GI-esque light marines, a sherman tank like heavy marine, a stuka dive bomber lerk, a shade wearing nazi uniform carrying a Panzerfaust!!!!!11111 Oh yah, nice model. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ehhh... NO!
Who the **** wants onoses with Hitles head??? Grow up man...
[EDIT] Oh.. and dont even bother ro explain that it was a joke cuz I dont freaking laugh in the glas. <---- (Lockstock comment) You are the first person in this forum that lost all my respect cuz that post was just stupid. Try to be just a little more serious and you might get some of it back... [EDIT] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> w0rd home slice. anyways awesome concept njroo and i love the render so far strapon. except it looks more like a shotgun with the small clip. dont know if anyone else noticed it but thats just me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.
When you guys make the model please have it kind of centered. not totaly though make it off to the side a lil, but enough so that it doesn't look like the gun is aimed to your far left. if ya know what i mean. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Strapon2+Sep 21 2003, 09:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strapon2 @ Sep 21 2003, 09:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i first started modelling the little pic, i immediately thought-- shotty?
the body really looks like a shotties. What could we/i alter to make it look more like a rifle? (something with the barrel or the clip?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> possibly make that fat clip a bit longer and the barrel longer. that just might do it.
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what i dont get is where owens comes in? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
what i dont get is where owens comes in? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
::shrug:: i just thought it looked curiously like tha grip off my .45 pistol....because Owen ripped tha grip off when he made his concept for a modernized thompson....
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion.
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Positioning, general shape (albeit slightly modified), and certain astetic features of tha Grip/trigger assembly are what make me suspiscious....
but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice...
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Positioning, general shape (albeit slightly modified), and certain astetic features of tha Grip/trigger assembly are what make me suspiscious....
but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
or maybe because grips tend to be the same.. as they're supposed to fit the human hand? lol ^_^
It's better with the narrower clip, but the receiver should be equally shortened and the ejector slot lined up. But that's just my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Positioning, general shape (albeit slightly modified), and certain astetic features of tha Grip/trigger assembly are what make me suspiscious....
but as i've already said twice, i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
or maybe because grips tend to be the same.. as they're supposed to fit the human hand? lol ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
::rolls eyes::
snake, the reason why people keep bringing up this argument is because you back down in the argument, however at the end of every single post, you state that^^ which is you implying that i did in fact take your grip... which i didnt.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rite there, youre saying no one will notice. notice what!? i didnt do anything. by saying that, saying that i still took the grip.
when youre admitting your wrong, dont end your post by saying "its okay, no one will notice"
and you wonder why people are still talking about it? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
snake, the reason why people keep bringing up this argument is because you back down in the argument, however at the end of every single post, you state that^^ which is you implying that i did in fact take your grip... which i didnt.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i'm not stressing over it, given tha fact that tha casual observer wouldn't really notice... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
rite there, youre saying no one will notice. notice what!? i didnt do anything. by saying that, saying that i still took the grip.
when youre admitting your wrong, dont end your post by saying "its okay, no one will notice"
and you wonder why people are still talking about it? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i never said i was wrong...and i never directly accused you of using my work....however i did ask if you had used any of owen's work as reference...you never did answer that one...but if you did use any of his work, then chances are it's at least BASED off mine...
it does look a LOT like the grip/trigger assembly i used on my pistol and rifle, only with a few modifications...that's all i'm saying...
now, i'm not stressing over tha thing...it looks good....if i were stressing i'd be rabbid like "OMFGZ!, YOU STOLE MY ****, I DEMAND YOU TAKE IT DOWN!!"...do you see me doing that?....no, you don't....so let's just drop it, ok?
<img src='http://thumbs.deviantart.com/300W-96A096/i/2003/38/6/4/NStommygun.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<a href='http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/3129446/' target='_blank'>Or this if the pic doesn't work.</a>
<a href='http://www.deviantart.com/view/3129446/' target='_blank'>or this...</a>
I love the idea/look.
( No offence intended, I like the model, especially if it's a wip..)
Few more lights in there might help out. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
dude, you made my concept come to life!! I LOVE YOU! proceed. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Right now I'm just fixing some stuff, making it fit together, plus trying to figure out stupid shading groups... grrr <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I should also add, I like the composition and style of the render, it's just those very solid shadows make it difficult to see the detail and modelling..
Never used Rhino ( heard a lot of very positive things about it though..), is there maybe an option to up the AA on the render?, smooth things out a bit?
I dunno, renders are probably unimportant in HL engine models anyhow, just saying though..
Don't know how much use it will be, but Cinema 4D can be had free on coverdisks from PC mags, and it has a <i>gorgeous</i> render engine.
I honestly think you would have to <i>try</i> to produce an ugly render in Cinema, I love the thing, shame the modelling tools and interface seem rather clunky..( to me at least..)
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=46014&hl=cinema+4d' target='_blank'>random cinema 4d chat</a>
Another option might be <a href='http://www.blender3d.org/' target='_blank'>Blender</a>, although the interface is bizarre at first..
OpenFX can be set up to provide decent renders as well ( linkys in stickied "how to" thread), and there are probably even better free options floating about..( I believe free versions of BMRT can be had from a Yahoo! group, although that's probably taking things a bit too far..)
Also, if your system is up to it ( mine sure aint..) I believe you can knock out good, but watermarked renders with <a href='http://www.softimage.com/products/exp/v3/' target='_blank'>Free limited version of Softimage XSI</a>
btw, I mentioned Wings and Yafray in my first post, I'm not slagging them at all, in fact I find Wings to be the most intuitive modeller I've ever seen, and yafray can produce some fabulous stuff, it's just a bit awkward to set up right..
Anyway, sorry for slight threadjack, carry on.
LMMFAO!!
that;s all i said you did....lol...
christ, u guys need to sit back and realize i was making an observation, not an accusation...
and Owen..i'll stop being a spooner, when you stop being a tosser.. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
(plus the site i post these on squash the immage, so i had to add a gutter really fast, looks a bit wierd..)
<img src='http://thumbs.deviantart.com/300W-96A096/i/2003/38/b/f/NStommygunnew.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<a href='http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/3130865/' target='_blank'>or here</a> <a href='http://www.deviantart.com/view/3130865/' target='_blank'>or here.</a>
So heres what i threw together in 6-7 hours. everything except the cylinders are face-by-face created as always <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
A bit scaling is left to be done...
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Ehhh... NO!
Who the **** wants onoses with Hitles head???
Grow up man...
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Oh.. and dont even bother ro explain that it was a joke cuz I dont freaking laugh in the glas. <---- (Lockstock comment)
You are the first person in this forum that lost all my respect cuz that post was just stupid.
Try to be just a little more serious and you might get some of it back...
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Ehhh... NO!
Who the **** wants onoses with Hitles head???
Grow up man...
[EDIT]
Oh.. and dont even bother ro explain that it was a joke cuz I dont freaking laugh in the glas. <---- (Lockstock comment)
You are the first person in this forum that lost all my respect cuz that post was just stupid.
Try to be just a little more serious and you might get some of it back...
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w0rd home slice. anyways awesome concept njroo and i love the render so far strapon. except it looks more like a shotgun with the small clip. dont know if anyone else noticed it but thats just me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.
the body really looks like a shotties. What could we/i alter to make it look more like a rifle?
(something with the barrel or the clip?)
the body really looks like a shotties. What could we/i alter to make it look more like a rifle?
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possibly make that fat clip a bit longer and the barrel longer. that just might do it.