How Many Squads?
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hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">5 or 9? I've always thought 5...</div> <!--QuoteBegin--Acidophilus Cultures+Sep 9 2003, 07:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acidophilus Cultures @ Sep 9 2003, 07:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Ctrl 1-9 also gives squads.. like in strat.games <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1-9 or 1-5?
Anyone tested this?
Ctrl 1-9 also gives squads.. like in strat.games <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1-9 or 1-5?
Anyone tested this?
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(also note that if you rebind your weapon keys to other keys, those other keys will have to be pressed with your crouch to make squads)
But either way, it's only 5 squads.
1-5 are your default slot1-slot5 (weapon) keys; crouch+those keys enable you to make squads;
edit: think about it... if he could, i'm sure he would simply expand the limit... but (based on experience) i haven't played any HL mods that use more than 5 weapon keys; i don't think the engine supports more than 5
they get splited in less than a sec
1-5 are your default slot1-slot5 (weapon) keys; crouch+those keys enable you to make squads;
edit: think about it... if he could, i'm sure he would simply expand the limit... but (based on experience) i haven't played any HL mods that use more than 5 weapon keys; i don't think the engine supports more than 5 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The engine does indeed support more than five weapon keys. Open up your config.cfg and have a look at what your number keys are bound to - there are ten slots (0 to 9).
Besides, Opposing Force has seven slots.
There's a big section on the manual I'm writing in the use of squads, and I want to be certain. SjN, I suggest you read it when I'm done. Sheesh.
If Acidophelius could comment on why he suggest there being 9 squads it would help too.
Incidentaly, would the Engine limt that prevents there being more weapon slots (in NS now,) also prevent the future adition of more squads?
I'll give odds of 1:2 that Scopry knows. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
There's a big section on the manual I'm writing in the use of squads, and I want to be certain. SjN, I suggest you read it when I'm done. Sheesh.
If Acidophelius could comment on why he suggest there being 9 squads it would help too.
Incidentaly, would the Engine limt that prevents there being more weapon slots (in NS now,) also prevent the future adition of more squads?
I'll give odds of 1:2 that Scopry knows. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
1: The engine limit is 10 slots (I think), not 5.
2: I doubt very much that the number of weapon slots would limit Flayra adding more. He'd just have to do it another way.
3: Uh... does anyone *really* need more than 10 slots? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Besides, Opposing Force has seven slots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i stand corrected; opposing force does indeed have 7 slots.
i think flayra should add a 2nd row with slots 6-0. we'd have 10 squads to play with! fun fun fun
Anyway. 5 slots does me. If the engine limit is 10, why do only 4 show up when playing? (Despite 4 being empty.)
I am interested in the possibility of making more squads rather than more weapon slots. Esp as one slot can potentially hold more than one weapon (as in HL).
Anyway. 5 slots does me. If the engine limit is 10, why do only 4 show up when playing? (Despite 4 being empty.)
I am interested in the possibility of making more squads rather than more weapon slots. Esp as one slot can potentially hold more than one weapon (as in HL).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only four slots show up when playing because the WeaponList messages the server sends only reference HUD slots 0 through 3. The squads don't take up weapon slots; when you're commanding, those keys are reassigned to send impulses rather than slot1...slot4. The impulses are:
<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->GROUP_CREATE_1 = 70,
GROUP_CREATE_2 = 71,
GROUP_CREATE_3 = 72,
GROUP_CREATE_4 = 73,
GROUP_CREATE_5 = 74,
GROUP_SELECT_1 = 75,
GROUP_SELECT_2 = 76,
GROUP_SELECT_3 = 77,
GROUP_SELECT_4 = 78,
GROUP_SELECT_5 = 79,<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
if that is correct.. would it still be possible to make squad one with crouch+1 even if 1 was bound to, say, +attack instead of slot1?
I think so, yes. There's only one way to find out; why not try it?
tried, didn't work <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
There are many uses for the 5 squads IMHO, it just takes time to organise them. I will wait until the manual is online before I start describing them though.