[wip] Yet Another Assault Rifle ;)

Brimstone · September 2003

Mostly looking for feedback and suggestions from more experienced modelers out there...
Built in MS3d, rendered in MaxR3, about 1190 polys at this point... Material shades right now are just for definition.
<img src='http://www.advancedmod.com/forums/files/arv8.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Fox_One · September 2003

Wow, normally curves don't look good on guns, but you nailed this.

Suggestion: Delete the backfaces to lower the poly count, and keep up the good work <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>, this looks like it'll be a clear competitior for the top LMG spot (the design doesn't look chunky enough to be a HMG).

MetalHeart · September 2003

Good Job ! I like it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> Keep it up <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Xiile · September 2003

Let me be the first to say...
PC?

Jamil · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XeroSlayer @ Sep 7 2003, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Let me be the first to say...
PC?
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</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brimstone @ Sep 7 2003, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...about 1190 polys at this point... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Ehm

Owen1 · September 2003

lol... like the front barrel bit thingy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> ... but the back looks a bit squashed

nthngnsd · September 2003

bad smoothing groups, u really gotta reassign them

sheena_yanai · September 2003

yeah.. it looks odd with all this smoothing...
interresting... on the first look it looked like a mix of the g36 and the south african vector 21, the unreal 2003 mg and uhm... nike shoes...

Icejelly · September 2003

definitely nike shoes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> and the gun looks odd and all, looks like the back of it was made of play-do and it's pinched or somewhat <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Brimstone · September 2003

You've hit the nail on the head- the back is what I was unhappy with... I want to do a bullpup arrangement, and was trying to stay away from a collapsible stock- trying to do something that looked more futuristic, with a shell molded from composites. The gun seems unbalanced to me also, and I'm not quite satisfied with the handle...

nthngnsd · September 2003

lol sheena <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Obst · September 2003

I think you just need to make the shoulder handle (name???) ONE thing, bot like teh 3 nike spikes they are ATM. And I see 2 Barrels and 2 Mag-slots. Grens? Shotty? perhaps make 2 versions of the gun ^^ On GL/SG one LMG

Sirus · September 2003

Looks great. While others may talk about technicalities, I think it's very visually pleasing.

Bots · September 2003

Just a suggestion... before you start modelling... always make sure AUTOSMOOTH is unchecked in the groups tab (assuming you use Milkshape).

Xiile · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jamil @ Sep 7 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XeroSlayer @ Sep 7 2003, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Let me be the first to say...
PC?
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</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brimstone @ Sep 7 2003, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...about 1190 polys at this point... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Ehm  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh, I'm smart. -_-

Diablus · September 2003

VERY NICE brimstone, i WILL be using it when u release it, well try to use it if u cut down on the polly's. btw how many poly's is the reg LMG at? i have a custom one now but how much is the original one so i can compare <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

EDIT: on the bar that leads down to the smooth thing to barrel of the gun (kinda like the sighting) u should add a laser pointer (not a laser point tho ) in ur skinning (kinda like the original turrent files and the red little computerized dot thingy) so it looks like it calculates alittle bit even tho u cant see it v_mdl ull be able to see it p_ and w_

Techcasualty · September 2003

It's made out of gummie bears! heh. Looks pretty cool.

Brimstone · September 2003

Actually, I hadn't been considering this for NS, but rather for a planned mod for either T:V or UT2k4- probably going to take my <i>On Deadly Ground</i> T2 mod now in beta and move it to the new engine. (T2 being pretty much dead is helping that decision along, too). The majority of models I have constructed so far have been hacks more or less, as I learn the tricks, and I'm feeling ready to start doing my own, and this was the first freehand model I've done. I've been lurking on the forums here for a while (my son got me into NS, which was a good thing- spending too much time on my mod), and developed a healthy enough respect for the talent here to ask for advice <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
The only NS models I've done have been hacks done for my son and I to use ourselves, I closed the visors on the Halo (my light) and Starcraft (my heavy) marines, and made them transparent, recompiled the Halo to use the smartgun, and converted a CS pulse rifle model to NS, I thought it was more detailed than the AVP2 one used previously. And for * <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> * and giggles, I made a lightsaber knife replacement- but it's kinda crappy- the additive rendering isn't truly fullbright, so it looks bad in darkness. If there was a way to add the glow effect, maybe, but I'll probably be canning that one. My NS custom theme, you ask? Hehe, if it looks cool, use it, it's all in fun anyway <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

MalambisBZ · September 2003

Looks good, except the smoothing groups need to be fixed.

n4s7y · September 2003

Wow. Definitely one of the most innovative designs I've seen around. Looks very nice, keep up the good work.

IdenTheBox · September 2003

Looks like a heavily modified version of the gun in Marathon.

Brimstone · September 2003

Ok, you got my curiosity, and now I'm going to show how little life I have outside work and occasional gaming.. what is the "Marathon" you refer to? Do you have a link to a pic of the gun?

Jaeger · September 2003

Sweet dear jeebus, you're THE Brimstone from ODG!?

/me bows

There are a couple ref images <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=39748&hl=marathon' target='_blank'>here</a>, but it's kinda hard to get anything of real modeling use since the game is so old.

Talnoy · September 2003

thats a beauty, with a little work that will be awesome

PanzerOx · September 2003

wow dude that looks really cool, hope you do release it for NS.

IdenTheBox · September 2003

Marathon was a Macintosh only FPS that had one of the best storylines ever featured in a FPS ever, the second in the series was also ported to the PC and it has a very RABID fan base, it was done by bungie. It's hard to get a good picture of it in the old 2D style graphics, but team a team of talented moddlers and etc are porting the first game over to the old UT engine and it looks pretty sweet, for some good pictures of their, er, interpetation of the Marathon classic assault rifle here are some links:

<a href='http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br.jpg' target='_blank'>http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br.jpg</a>
<a href='http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br1.jpg' target='_blank'>http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br1.jpg</a>
<a href='http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br2.jpg' target='_blank'>http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br2.jpg</a>
<a href='http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br3.jpg' target='_blank'>http://resurrection.bungie.org/big_images/br3.jpg</a>

Brimstone · September 2003

*blushes* Yes, I would be that Brimstone... Playing NS is how I've been unwinding from that... but I didn't come here to pump another mod, so 'nuff said about that...
I do see a resemblance to the Marathon weapon, in the "molded" look I was seeking, and with my decision to go for a FN-2000 style stock, perhaps a bit more... I was even going for a color scheme similar to that... The differences are mostly in detail... <img src='http://advancedmod.com/forums/images/smiles/frusty.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'> Oh well, I'm not going to can it for that... just have to think of something...

IdenTheBox · September 2003

Obviously you're not trying to copy it as you've never seen it before, go on with your original intentions, the game is in public domain now anyway it's so old, and Bungie's cool like that anyway.

Tyralion · September 2003

Looks awesome! I want it!

EDIT: What is ODG? Enlighten me!

Brimstone · September 2003

<b>HORDES:</b><i>On Deadly Ground</i> is a mod I have developed for Tribes2. It is currently in open beta, but I am seriously considering moving it to either the Tribes:Vengeance or UT2k4/UT2:XMP formats, because the T2 scene was pretty much dead by the time it was ready for beta... For those interested in taking a look, here are two links:
<a href='http://www.fraggershall.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=16' target='_blank'>ODG Forums</a>
<a href='http://www.tribalwar.com/rdb/index.php?fileid=1274#' target='_blank'>TribalWar page</a>
Screens and info may be found at both links.
Please, if you have any feedback/ comments, take them to the ODG forums- these are the NS forums and are not the proper place to discuss another mod... 'nuff said... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Pash · March 2004

This is a really nice model. I do hope you get it for NS, i cant wait to be able to use it.

I hope this comes out as a HMG cause i cant seen to find a decent one :/
This would fit in just great.... Hope you get it done soon.

Also why the 2 clips. Is i supost to be a HMG/Gl or somthing?

[wip] Yet Another Assault Rifle ;)

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