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ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet! Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
<div class="IPBDescription">trying too hard?</div> i think i try too hard to find something deep, at this age. the closest thing i have... i can't really bring myself to talk about.

but.. i'm 16. i'm a junior in HS. should i even be looking for something meaningful at this age? i usually just go by what i observe, and think these things out myself.. but i want to know what everyone here thinks.

the last thing i was working on was with this freshman girl. i thought she was mature, but i let her go when she couldn't handle things. i got too serious. no, not physical, she's not the dry humping one. we hadn't even kissed. but i had strong feelings, and i think i saturated her. it wasn't good for her, so i just let her go. things are alright between us, but it's not about that.

it's just that.. maybe i'm looking in the wrong places. i'm talking to some senior girls... their personalities seem more developed, maybe because they've been through more. but even so, they could be the shallow, tiresome thing i'm trying to avoid. i don't know.

any thoughts? =\
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I don't wanna sound like some church idiot or something, but seriously...

    Read the Bible. Try and believe it, intensely. Don't scoff at this, I KNOW that this always works. Just try it. Don't go to church, don't talk with christians, just read the bible. That stuff comes later for someone looking for the "reality" of everything.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Aug 29 2003, 02:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 29 2003, 02:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't wanna sound like some church idiot or something, but seriously...

    Read the Bible. Try and believe it, intensely. Don't scoff at this, I KNOW that this always works. Just try it. Don't go to church, don't talk with christians, just read the bible. That stuff comes later for someone looking for the "reality" of everything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    explain, please?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Maybe you were smothering her. I do that sometimes. Well I used to...not anymore though. Your only 16, don't expect much for a few years yet bucko. Good luck anyways.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    I'm also in HS.. a senior.. and am worse off than you.


    Believe me, "tis better to have loved and lost" IS REALLY REALLY TRUE.


    I just can't make inroads with any girl that i'm attracted to at all... perhaps I hate myself inadvertantly, but everyone I seem to like is out of reach or I can't bring myself to talk to.

    We'll grow out of it, hopefully <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    Passing along a little bit of advice I've been given:

    Girls at our (I'm 16 too) don't have a freaking clue what they want. IT'll be another 8 years or so before they're sure of that.

    Take it easy, have fun with it, build emotional connections sure, but realize that in the grand scheme of htings, it probably means little.

    I'm trying to get the same bit of advice through my own head.... I'll describe my situation if you want but... meh, I don't feel like throwing it out there if it's not going to help anyone.
  • KeitaroSempaiKeitaroSempai Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 17003Members
    edited August 2003
    Seniors mature? Iunno...I was pretty weird my senior year... (I'm 18)

    You can't really say that seniors have been through more. It depends on personal experience. Many HS seniors haven't gone through relationships so some could just be as inexperienced as the next freshman. As for personalities, they are shaped by their peers (to be accepted...to fit in). Personalities can change in a matter of months. A personality can also come from within, too. Self-realization can quite possibly be one of the hardest things to do as it comes from the inside. This process can begin whenever you feel like it, whether you're 16 or 21. We like to call this "being ourselves" and I'm sure that many of us aren't.

    Mental preparation is the key (or at least one of them) in a relationship. Taking time to think is good, just don't overdo it ^_~.
  • SpectrulusSpectrulus Join Date: 2003-08-15 Member: 19731Members
    In high school, out of about 400 girls, u should find one who is mature and knows who shes looking for. However, she might not be ur type. It hurts bein alone at nights, but its just something we have to go thru. If u can find someone with similar intrests, but who hasnt matured yet, just hang around, and stay in touch. Something good might happen. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • roachemsroachems Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15148Members
    edited August 2003
    Everybody has the same problem that you have. Women for one, are insane, and you'll learn that later.

    Most you can really do is just be cool, don't get into it too much because that scares women away. Just act like a nice guy, just don't go too far.

    It'll happen, don't sweat it.

    edit: I'm about 99% sure that the bible will not help you in this situation. Like communist said, it'll be another year or two before things start getting really good. My best advice is, just don't worry about it, seems like pretty lame advice but theres really no other way.
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    I would work on just developing connections and all that while in HS. Wait until college before really trying to get involved with someone. Girls are overall much more "stable" once they're out of HS.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited August 2003
    okay.. currently i'm pretty close with a girl who is, in fact, out of hs, and en route to college. i just don't know where things are right now. she's a f*cking genius, and i've been through too much for my age... we're too smart to f*ck things up at this point.

    we talk about life, and about love. she's told me outright she loves me and all... i think i should just be happy with what we've got. i guess i must be lucky, at my age.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited August 2003
    Please disregard what was posted here, my mistake.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    forget the bible, read the Tao Te Ching! That's where it's at. it's about BALANCE in your life, and understanding how everything works itself out if you trust yourself and learn from your experiences. I'll even give you a link: <a href='http://home.wanadoo.nl/kwispel/woewei/uklaotse.htm' target='_blank'>Tao Te Ching</a>. Not my favorite translation but the best one I found online... less literal and more poetic translations are better...

    but on a serious/personal note, I graduated HS in a class of 9 pplz. 2 of them were womens. I didn't have a snowball's chance, so consider yourself lucky you've had decent romantic experiences already. After that, I found love online =P and stuck with her for 5 years. Keep an open mind and an open eye and the right way to handle things will open itself up to you...
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 28 2003, 11:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 28 2003, 11:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Aug 28 2003, 11:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 28 2003, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> we talk about life, and about love. she's told me outright she loves me and all... i think i should just be happy with what we've got. i guess i must be lucky, at my age. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please forgive me when I say that that sounds like a BS line. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what's BS? you think he doesn't really have someone who loves him? or that love is fake and he's therefore not really lucky? but anyway, yah, I wish I had someone who freely admitted she loved me at 16... =P I was a shy little turd back then who couldn't even look a girl in the face.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DiscoZombie+Aug 28 2003, 11:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Aug 28 2003, 11:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 28 2003, 11:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 28 2003, 11:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Aug 28 2003, 11:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 28 2003, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> we talk about life, and about love. she's told me outright she loves me and all... i think i should just be happy with what we've got. i guess i must be lucky, at my age. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please forgive me when I say that that sounds like a BS line. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what's BS? you think he doesn't really have someone who loves him? or that love is fake and he's therefore not really lucky? but anyway, yah, I wish I had someone who freely admitted she loved me at 16... =P I was a shy little turd back then who couldn't even look a girl in the face. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok, looking back, I was not quoteing what I thought I was, so disregard that, I thought there was something else in that quote but I guess there wasn't, so I guess I'll just admit to being dumb in this case and move on.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited August 2003
    id help u out Zig but u were the one threatening to kick me from ur server because i loaded 1 hmg clip into a fade and he claimed i was hacking, i told him to shut up the next thing i knew i had the whole server bothering me and calling me a hacker and u threatening to kick me for standing up for myself and trying to prove the 9 year old idiot who claims theres hacks for a 1 shot kill bullet, not to change the subject, keep helping him out but just a thought
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    thanks for all the help guys. disco hippie, i'll check that out.

    hives, no hard feelings. i was asking for any ideas or thoughts, and so i'm accepting all ideas and thoughts presented.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Aug 29 2003, 04:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Aug 29 2003, 04:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> id help u out Zig but u were the one threatening to kick me from ur server because i loaded 1 hmg clip into a fade and he claimed i was ahcking, i told him to SUYF the next thing i knew i had the whole server bothering me and calling me a hacker and u threatening to kick me for standing up for myself and trying to prove the 9 year old idiot who claims theres hacks for a 1 shot kill bullet <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wrong guy, i've never adminned at an NS server, silly.

    i go by the names venom6 or Jin-Roh on NS. haven't changed to Zig.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Aug 28 2003, 11:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Aug 28 2003, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> id help u out Zig but u were the one threatening to kick me from ur server because i loaded 1 hmg clip into a fade and he claimed i was hacking, i told him to shut up the next thing i knew i had the whole server bothering me and calling me a hacker and u threatening to kick me for standing up for myself and trying to prove the 9 year old idiot who claims theres hacks for a 1 shot kill bullet, not to change the subject, keep helping him out but just a thought <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's just uncalled-for.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    eeh, no no no. no problem, guys. he's just mistaking me for somebody else.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Aug 29 2003, 12:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 29 2003, 12:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> wrong guy, i've never adminned at an NS server, silly.

    i go by the names venom6 or Jin-Roh on NS. haven't changed to Zig. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    my bad, sorry mustve been somebody else, now back to the topic, jsut a silly misunderstanding <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    mhm. no hard feelings.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    What makes me mad is the people that are all like "you don't know what you want."

    Uh.. yes I do. If I didn't know what I wanted then I wouldn't have any feelings or emotions at all, both of which constitute "wants" Now these current "wants" could be totally different than those 8 years down the line, but they are still what I want.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Aug 29 2003, 04:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Aug 29 2003, 04:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What makes me mad is the people that are all like "you don't know what you want."

    Uh.. yes I do. If I didn't know what I wanted then I wouldn't have any feelings or emotions at all, both of which constitute "wants" Now these current "wants" could be totally different than those 8 years down the line, but they are still what I want. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i know, i'm just ignoring that. i've been through a lot. meaningless things, one-sided things, ecstatic highs and sh*t stain lows.

    i'm accepting all ideas here. food for thought.

    edit: i didn't make it very clear before. the girl who i'm closest to right now is also going to college soon, and we both know there's a full possibility she'll meet someone there. i'd like to think it's the same for me, but most likely it's not, because of the HS scene and all.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Aug 28 2003, 10:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Aug 28 2003, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm also in HS.. a senior.. and am worse off than you.


    Believe me, "tis better to have loved and lost" IS REALLY REALLY TRUE.


    I just can't make inroads with any girl that i'm attracted to at all... perhaps I hate myself inadvertantly, but everyone I seem to like is out of reach or I can't bring myself to talk to.

    We'll grow out of it, hopefully <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm going to have to disagree with you there (the "tis better..." part, since I know nothing of your personal life). As anyone who's read a few of my posts. I knew a girl, I loved a girl, a girl returned to her home country, I lost a girl, I'll never see said girl again.

    Looking back I feel retarded for getting sortof involved (not like, big dates or whatever; there was a dance though...heh)with someone I knew I'd probably never see again. Then again, I'm to emotional, my memory is to good for it's own self.

    In life I've found the following two phrases untrue:
    "Out of sight, out of mind" ...for people anyway...err...for me.
    " 'tis better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all." ...loving and losing makes you question yourself to much, of course, if it's someone dieing, it's probably slightly different. Of course, never having loved is pure innocence...You should at least love your family (and for the devout Christians, I think it says that God comes before your family...but whatever).

    Hopefully, I'll meet someone in college (go there in 2 days...yay freshmen? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> ). However I'll probably muck that up somehow. In conclusion, don't listen to me, in fact, forget everything I just said. I'm just a forlorn pascifist, that can't spell, mourning his bad decisions.

    ...I need one of them flashy thingys from Men in Black...
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Just be yourself, if thats not good enough for her. She's probably in highschool. Date a college chick. W00t. Erm...Anyways, yeah, you won't find a real relationship till your an adult dude. That where its at. Sadly theres almost as many immature adults as kids. Do your best, and by god do not hang on her like a lost puppy that drives girls MAD. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--UltimaGecko+Aug 28 2003, 11:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Aug 28 2003, 11:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    ...I need one of them flashy thingys from Men in Black... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh the things that cause memory loss? I have one, its called a nightstick.
  • KeitaroSempaiKeitaroSempai Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 17003Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--roachems+Aug 28 2003, 10:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (roachems @ Aug 28 2003, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Everybody has the same problem that you have. Women for one, are insane, and you'll learn that later. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Guys, please...get that silly notion out of your head that women are insane.

    Perhaps they see things much more differently than you do, and there remains the question of whether or not you are sensitive to their thoughts and feelings. Instead of looking at situations like a normal guy, try taking into consideration of what a woman would think.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    erm.. i'm not sure what that puppy thing's supposed to mean. you can explain that to me, if you like.

    about her... no, she's not in HS. read carefully =\
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Aug 28 2003, 11:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 28 2003, 11:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> erm.. i'm not sure what that puppy thing's supposed to mean. you can explain that to me, if you like. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think he means "we persue that which retreats from us" =P (coincidentally a line from the Tao Te Ching mentioned above). Rent the movie, <i>The Tao of Steve</i>. Tis funny and on-topic.

    anyway, translation: the less interested in a girl you act (to an extent), the more interested in you she'll be... and I know some ppl will want to argue with it, but don't bother; it's a fact of life. If you hang on a girl and act like she's the only one in the world and you could never stand to lose her... well, while it may be romantic, she'll think one of 2 things, if not both: "this guy's a loser who knows he'll never be able to get anyone besides me. that means I can do better," or, "wow, if this guy is so insane for me, I must really be awesome. that means I can do better." in both cases, they look for someone else... now, if you play it cool and hard-to-get, she'll think, "why doesn't this guy like me more? I'll keep after him, because if I can't win his heart, I must really suck."

    it sucks that people can't just be happy with each other, and sometimes they can, but it takes a verry delicate balancing of neuroses... that is, it takes a silent agreement that you both know you could find other people with different qualities if you wanted, but you still choose each other...
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DiscoZombie+Aug 29 2003, 12:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Aug 29 2003, 12:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Aug 28 2003, 11:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 28 2003, 11:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> erm.. i'm not sure what that puppy thing's supposed to mean. you can explain that to me, if you like. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think he means "we persue that which retreats from us" =P (coincidentally a line from the Tao Te Ching mentioned above). Rent the movie, <i>The Tao of Steve</i>. Tis funny and on-topic.

    anyway, translation: the less interested in a girl you act (to an extent), the more interested in you she'll be... and I know some ppl will want to argue with it, but don't bother; it's a fact of life. If you hang on a girl and act like she's the only one in the world and you could never stand to lose her... well, while it may be romantic, she'll think one of 2 things, if not both: "this guy's a loser who knows he'll never be able to get anyone besides me. that means I can do better," or, "wow, if this guy is so insane for me, I must really be awesome. that means I can do better." in both cases, they look for someone else... now, if you play it cool and hard-to-get, she'll think, "why doesn't this guy like me more? I'll keep after him, because if I can't win his heart, I must really suck."

    it sucks that people can't just be happy with each other, and sometimes they can, but it takes a verry delicate balancing of neuroses... that is, it takes a silent agreement that you both know you could find other people with different qualities if you wanted, but you still choose each other... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *Tosses Discon the thumbs up*
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