Sv_cheats 1 Work In Tournamentmode?

BaDMeATBaDMeAT Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14078Members
edited August 2003 in NS General Discussion
We had an PCW against a clan and we took 2 hives from them and they stopped spawned, then all just after some seconds they all respawned and had onos and all and kicked our **** then we saw this in the console sv_cheats 1
<img src='http://svall.no-ip.org/cheater.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://www.bsdswe.org/~mmx/fusk/Cheater1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://www.bsdswe.org/~mmx/fusk/cheat.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
so the quastion is, can u use sv_cheats 1?
in tournamentmode?

Sorry for my bad english.

Edit: we are MtMe
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    K were the clan hes accusing and we have screenshots of sv_cheats off and the server logs dont show anyone saying sv_cheats until the end of the match when the accuse us of using them (they kept droping guys too)

    We really dont want to discus this on the forums, its for private talks

    Cheers for understanding

    (Also your pic aint working)
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  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Members, Constellation
    if they ain't propared to talk about it in the open then something to hide.

    But by your words it deff sounds fishy.

    zippy
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  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    1. yes, keep it private
    2. yes, you can sv_cheats 1 on tourney mode, i do it all the time when i practice with bots. Nothing like busting a cap on that one RCbot that gets stuck in a loop..
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  • BaDMeATBaDMeAT Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14078Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rue+Aug 27 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Aug 27 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> K were the clan hes accusing and we have screenshots of sv_cheats off and the server logs dont show anyone saying sv_cheats until the end of the match when the accuse us of using them (they kept droping guys too)

    We really dont want to discus this on the forums, its for private talks

    Cheers for understanding

    (Also your pic aint working) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What u mean after the match?? look at the pic, there u see sv_cheats 1 in the console when the marine is in the base.... so the match is not over..
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    This is the part of the log file in the screenshot

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "sporegunprojectile" (damage "7")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "MtMe-t|Inso<176><202397><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "MtMe-t|Inso<176><202397><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:55: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" triggered "structure_destroyed" (type "team_hive")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" say "crap"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:57: "=X=KoRnFlakes[BYNS]<191><2984583><alien1team>" changed role to "gorge"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:57: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" changed role to "commander"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:57: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "sporegunprojectile" (damage "7")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:58: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" say "play on"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:58: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" with "spikegun" (damage "16")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:59: "=X=KoRnFlakes[BYNS]<191><2984583><alien1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "team_hive")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:02: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "68")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:02: "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" changed role to "gestate"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "17")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "119")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "153")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" killed "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "17")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "51")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "spikegun" (damage "16")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "spikegun" (damage "16")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "34")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "17")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:07: AvHGamerules::SelectSpawnPoint(): all spawns fullL 08/27/2003 - 21:49:07: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "85")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:07: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "34")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:10: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:11: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:12: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:16: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" with "claws" (damage "90")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:16: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" killed "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" with "claws"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:20: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" triggered "structure_destroyed" (type "defensechamber")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:21: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_jetpack")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:21: "MtMe-t|Inso<176><202397><marine1team>" say_team "need med\heal spray ~Inso~"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:22: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_jetpack")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:23: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "weapon_shotgun")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:25: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:28: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:28: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "claws" (damage "90")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:28: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "153")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:29: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" killed "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "claws"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:29: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:37: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" with "bitegun" (damage "75")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:43: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:44: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:52: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:54: "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" with "bitegun" (damage "75")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:54: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:59: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:50:02: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:50:16: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:50:17: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" killed "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Also why would we use cheats when we had onos outisde ur base?
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  • MooManMooMan Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5154Members
    imo you should like rub out the swear word there.

    Also, yes, you can use cheats in tourny mode.
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  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    posting logs from YOUR server to show that you didn't use SV_Cheats on YOUR SERVER isn't really conclusive at all. (How hard is it to edit your logs or to just post part of the log?)

    I'm not making judgement either way but at least photoshopping it into the console would be harder then editting a text file.
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    Fair enough its easy to edit text logs but there is no other way of doing it atm, unless i give a thirdparty the ftp password to the server and they check it there....another thing is even if we have put them on the marines would have noticed it building faster free stuff etc :/
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  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    very sad..
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  • LazerLazer Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    From the way the story (and logs look) you turned it on, quickly did a "givepoints" and then turned it off.
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  • BaDMeATBaDMeAT Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14078Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rue+Aug 27 2003, 04:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Aug 27 2003, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fair enough its easy to edit text logs but there is no other way of doing it atm, unless i give a thirdparty the ftp password to the server and they check it there....another thing is even if we have put them on the marines would have noticed it building faster free stuff etc :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not if u type /rcon sv_cheats 1; givepoints; givepints; givepoints; givepoints; givepoints; givepoints;rcon sv_cheats 1
    or something like that, it will go to fast for us to notice anything but it will be visible in the console anyway.
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  • KoRnFlakesKoRnFlakes Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16490Members
    edited August 2003
    Ive said this 3 times now & il say it once more,
    I was in archiving when you all asked for a pause. shortly after I said lol...
    shortly after that I built the archiving hive (you left the whole hive clear & safe as houses)
    At this point the hive was either being shot or we had lost it. I just remember we had no hives at some point. just my archiving building.

    I headed back to delta & waited for archiving to build. some1 was moaning for heal but I only had spit due to no hives.

    Anyway, the archiving hive eventually built & I built delta & one dc since we only had 2 cos u destroyed one.

    Although I doubt this arguement will ever finish in a formal way, all I can say is your language, homophobia and insults were unacceptable whether you believed we were cheating or not.

    taking the mick out of our accents, calling us homosexuals (sorry the more familiar word is censored here) & swearing doesnt gain you any points & all I see this as is a bitter attack. Its a shame ive had to waste my time writing this.
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  • OtsOts Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18577Members, Constellation
    Funny thing is.. You can practically give what ever excuse you want for the "sv_cheats" switching, only thing that proofs it right would be a recorded demo. Although by watching those screenshots, the onos "Rue" actually was killed several times in a row which would indicate that he got killed instantly at their hive or something like that. It sure makes me wonder how he was fortune enough to stash those 100 res for onos and succeeding to evolve into one without getting smashed up whilst inside an egg..

    Fishy.
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  • fbrcuddlesfbrcuddles Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20268Members
    K, I am quite concerned here. Being a graphics artist, I know console shots can be easily edited. If people are leaving half way through a game too, what do you reckon they could possibly be doing whilst "reconnecting". I think this is a poor accusation on =X= and the sooner people learn to play games for fun as opposed to play games to win, the sooner this situation can be resolved. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    edited August 2003
    ahh nevermind
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Record demos of everything from multiple players on your team. That's the only way things really get worked out.

    This is also why official specs are present in league games.
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  • JimBowenJimBowen Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16873Members, Constellation
    Clan =X= used to being constantly banned from BY servers, and had a dodgy rep.
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  • KoRnFlakesKoRnFlakes Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16490Members
    JimBowen speaking as a [BYNS} vet, I can tell you that is somewhat true. We had problems with players such as DethGaunt & Diablo_Fx causing trouble on the byns servs. Fortuntely the team is mostly new players now & we only had a bad rep because dethgaunt spent most of his public games fater being booted moaning & insulting us, To which many others joined in being his friends.
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  • Russian_HitmanRussian_Hitman Join Date: 2003-07-13 Member: 18138Members, Constellation
    =X='s Current members (after a recent shakeup i believe) are what i would consider a respectable group of players. i doubt they would sink to doing such a thing. yes i do know the majority of them and as for "Clan =X= used to being constantly banned from BY servers, and had a dodgy rep. " the clan has changed alot new members old out etc. worst offence being clan stacking?

    hope this gets sorted.
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    =X= was banned once for clan stacking about 2 months thats about it and after looking at all this I belive that sv_cheats were turned on and off, but i dont know how they were

    Also there is no logs of anyone using cheats like givepoints etc....


    also Ots: I was onos before we lost data core and was redempted before the hive went down and killed the jper

    and
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->rcon sv_cheats 1; givepoints; givepints; givepoints; givepoints; givepoints; givepoints;rcon sv_cheats 0<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    does not work
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  • CorradoCorrado Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11423Members
    So...you said that cheats were put on, but they're not shown in the logs?

    Awfully convienient taht...altered logs, I think so!
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  • Dr_AwkwardDr_Awkward Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->rcon sv_cheats 1; givepoints; givepints; etc. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So, does "rcon sv_cheats 1; givepints" hand out beer, or what? Cause I think I like that command. Party at Feedwater! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BaDMeATBaDMeAT Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14078Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--fbrcuddles+Aug 27 2003, 05:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (fbrcuddles @ Aug 27 2003, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> K, I am quite concerned here. Being a graphics artist, I know console shots can be easily edited. If people are leaving half way through a game too, what do you reckon they could possibly be doing whilst "reconnecting". I think this is a poor accusation on =X= and the sooner people learn to play games for fun as opposed to play games to win, the sooner this situation can be resolved. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hmm so u mean that we all are spuper grafical pros??? becuase we started to send them right away after we disconnected,
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  • BaDMeATBaDMeAT Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14078Members
    and why didnt u allow me to have HLTV on and record?
    Maybe an rematch l8er and on our server with HLTV recording & CD......
    If u want, so **** like this dosnt happen.
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  • Russian_HitmanRussian_Hitman Join Date: 2003-07-13 Member: 18138Members, Constellation
    why not use a neutral server with a neutral spec , HLTV and CD .

    just to be on the safe side....
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  • ManiCManiC Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 15996Members
    In reply to Ots about The onos being smashed up as an egg? i was a lerk at the time and did my best to cover him, he lived and i rejoiced ;p i then chased the cn. . guy who killed our hive and managed to get him, afaik, i dont deny the cheats were turned on as it is shown in one fo my own condumps, but afaik no1 knew they were on.
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  • DaveDave Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19051Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rue+Aug 27 2003, 04:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rue @ Aug 27 2003, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is the part of the log file in the screenshot

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "sporegunprojectile" (damage "7")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "MtMe-t|Inso<176><202397><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "MtMe-t|Inso<176><202397><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:53: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:55: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" triggered "structure_destroyed" (type "team_hive")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" say "crap"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:57: "=X=KoRnFlakes[BYNS]<191><2984583><alien1team>" changed role to "gorge"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:57: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" changed role to "commander"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:57: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "sporegunprojectile" (damage "7")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:58: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" say "play on"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:58: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" with "spikegun" (damage "16")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:48:59: "=X=KoRnFlakes[BYNS]<191><2984583><alien1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "team_hive")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:02: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "68")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:02: "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" changed role to "gestate"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "17")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "119")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "153")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:03: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" killed "=X=Tom-The-ToKer<193><572984><alien1team>" with "shotgun"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:04: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "17")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "51")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:05: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "spikegun" (damage "16")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_genericammo")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "spikegun" (damage "16")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "34")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:06: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "17")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:07: AvHGamerules::SelectSpawnPoint(): all spawns fullL 08/27/2003 - 21:49:07: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "85")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:07: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X= MaNiC^<195><937569><alien1team>" with "player" (damage "34")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:10: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:11: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:12: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:16: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" with "claws" (damage "90")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:16: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" killed "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" with "claws"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:20: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" triggered "structure_destroyed" (type "defensechamber")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:21: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_jetpack")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:21: "MtMe-t|Inso<176><202397><marine1team>" say_team "need med\heal spray ~Inso~"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:22: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_jetpack")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:23: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "weapon_shotgun")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:25: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:28: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:28: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "claws" (damage "90")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:28: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" with "shotgun" (damage "153")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:29: "=X=Rue [BYNS]<190><885687><alien1team>" killed "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" with "claws"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:29: "MtMe|Mr. K<180><2090356><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:37: "MtMe|Ultra-Magnus<179><438581><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" with "bitegun" (damage "75")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:41: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:43: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:44: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:52: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:54: "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" attacked "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" with "bitegun" (damage "75")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:54: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:55: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:49:59: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" triggered "structure_built" (type "item_health")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:50:02: "MtMe|ZrAX<186><785360><marine1team>" changed role to "soldier"
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:50:16: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" attacked "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun" (damage "10")
    L 08/27/2003 - 21:50:17: "MtMe|Odezzah<177><230254><marine1team>" killed "=X=Milkybar_Kid<194><421582><alien1team>" with "machinegun"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Also why would we use cheats when we had onos outisde ur base? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First off, the screenshot cannot be edited. You can quite simply open the logfile in notepad and remove the CVARs that were changed.

    I've seen it done, and it's a way of hiding you were infact cheating.
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  • KoRnFlakesKoRnFlakes Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16490Members
    dear oh dear, the "screenshot" is only an image. thats all it is. Images can be edited or created. IMO this will never be proven nor will it be disproven, What worries me most is that we had masses of abuse hurled at us & that youve lowered yourself to posting it here.
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  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    Screenshots can be edited fine... I've done it dozens of times... What are you talking about?
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  • BaDMeATBaDMeAT Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14078Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kalias+Aug 27 2003, 05:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kalias @ Aug 27 2003, 05:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Screenshots can be edited fine... I've done it dozens of times... What are you talking about? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hmmm we send the directly, i dont think a humanbien can fake 3 screenshots in 1 min.......
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