Ball And Chain

BigBull · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Take a Look.</div> My friend modeled and skinned thse. This wep is 28,000 polies tho. But i just thought you guys wanted to see some quality modeling.<img src='http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/darkpics69/front.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

BigBull · August 2003

W00t<img src='http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/darkpics69/Ball.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

BigBull · August 2003

w000t x2 <img src='http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/darkpics69/Chain.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

BigBull · August 2003

<img src='http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/darkpics69/Bottom.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>w00t x3

Nyssan · August 2003

Yeah, um.... i thinks ns would crash ... just out of shock...

Nice though, but without poly limits, it's not difficult to model that well, gj on the skinning also <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

BigBull · August 2003

Yeh he just wants me to show his work. Like if you want him to model or skin something?

rabbity · August 2003

omg VERY nice bump mapping!

BAshh · August 2003

jesus christ think of if NS could handle that beast of a model, hittin someone upside the head with it, damn

Redford · August 2003

Yeah. When you need your polygons and curves to look absolutly perfect at long range, go for an absurd number of polygons. While the mace looks fantastic, I really think you could of reduced the number of faces and still had somthing that looked nice...

Vinegar_Ninja · August 2003

way too many polies for something that looks like meh.....
its nothing exciting, your friend put too much detail into something you would never see normally, I doubt your EVER going to as close as the first pict is......
the chain.... whoopeeee its a chain...... @_@
just seems a bit overboard for something so generic......

Zyndrome · August 2003

"Made in Tai... I mean... 3dsmax"

That bumpmapping is generated by 3dsmax materials and the textures are included in 3dsmax as well...

Lukin · August 2003

That looks painful..

PaaDii · August 2003

If I put that in <b><i>ANY</i></b> game. My comp would quickly make it's last breath.

Extremly nice piece of work though. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Deronok · August 2003

Dang dude, maybe your friend should look into joining one of the HL2 mod teams for one of the Midevil/fant type mods.

ThoraX · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deronok @ Aug 26 2003, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Dang dude, maybe your friend should look into joining one of the HL2 mod teams for one of the Midevil/fant type mods.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
MasterSword could use a modeller I guess. I think we're moving it to HL2 when its' released. it's a fantasy RPG for half-life. Easiest way for me to describe it is pretty much multiplayer morrowind for H-L...

<a href='http://www.mastersword.flagrun.net' target='_blank'>www.mastersword.flagrun.net</a>

Sorry to shawcable users living in BC Canada. Flagrun has banned shawcable users because if hackers... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

CaptainChet · August 2003

Aight im bigbulls friend who modeled the mace. The bumpmapping and texturing is really easy once you get the hang of the material editor and the spikes were made by adjusting the pivot and circle-copying. THe thing was a piece of cake to make as long as you know how to loft (for the chains) and boolean. And i NEVER intended this for any game (as you can see for the polycount.) The whole thing was made in under four hours. Thx for all the feedbak and to bigbull for posting when i had to leave <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> My sites @ home.earthlink.net/~ilink109 and ill have some updates on that soon.

Surge · August 2003

He did a morningstar flail like that with 28,000 polys? I've seen models the same quality that are less than 1/3 that much... but still nice, even if it is high-poly.

EDIT: What I'm saying is that 28,000 polys is almost 10 times more than any amount of polys you want in a weapon model, even view_model. Doom 3 only has about 700-2000 polys for view weapons, believe it or not.

CaptainChet · August 2003

d00d i didnt make the model with polycounts in mind AT ALL.

BigBull · August 2003

Well, Chet you should try wep models. Witjh reg polycounts..

morphium · August 2003

simple easy model, bad textures through wrong uvw-maps( bumpmap is to strong should be at 10 or 15)

ps. i have seen much better maces with a gamesuitable polycount

CoolCookieCooks · August 2003

why the hell are you guys flaming him? just because hes over the poly count limits fro you doesnt mean hes done anything wrong.

morphium · August 2003

its not the model, its the bad texturing; and because of that a gamesuitable model with a good texture would look much better

killer_olie · August 2003

I did one of them before.... of cause that looks much better <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> Very good work but isn't it a bit shiny to be a ball and chain.... Very good skin and model, i love the handle.

CoolCookieCooks · August 2003

i cant see how u can flame him about the skin either, oh yes he used the program to make it easy, it stilll look good to my eyes.

PaaDii · August 2003

I concur with coolcookiecooks.
Quit that flaming

I love the model and the skin.
And i don't care about the polycount.

If u don't like it. don't look at it

Mart · August 2003

It's just inefficent is all, this has nothing to do with Polylimits.

CoolCookieCooks · August 2003

well i think its bloody nice quality imo and you should make a lovely model to go with it and a make a render on it ^_^

Reppyboyo · August 2003

to be compleatly honest i think its ugly as hell....
most of that model can be done with primatives, alot of polys could be subtracted while keeping the smoothness...
the bump mapping is too over done...
the wood texture is horrible and looks like a bunch of strings....

Vinegar_Ninja · August 2003

yes, lets not flame...... as the model is PERFECT AND NOTHING COULD EVER BE IMPROVED EVAR!!!!!!
everyone needs a reality check sometimes, you can never be "finished" with something on the first release, its just not possible.
If your going to make a weapon that looks cool, you should keep the poly count somewhat realistic, otherwise its just a "oh cool, whatever" sort of thing, and it just looks shiny. Now, if you lowered the polycount you could maybe make something of that, a replacement knife, something for another mod, ect.
Its always nice to have some samples of high end work, but it should be something more than a ball and chain for gods sake......
now dont get me wrong, I like the thing, but I just say that you should keep simple things simple, with realistic poly counts.....
and these arent flames, save for maybe the last post <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

BlackMage · August 2003

this is a techdemo ... he just made something he likes and he wants to show it to you, maybe get a few <b>helpful</b> suggestions and he might make it a knife replacement ... but for now this is a techdemo it is not game ready, nor was it evar intended to be rationally within any limits set by hardware, software or physics. yes we probably have all seen maces that look better, have less polys and better textures and can be used in a game. I, personally like the pic and have also seen better posters than you bunch.

p.s. if you diddnt flame the guy ignore the above and give yourself a cookie on behalf of me

p.p.s fighter says:
it may not be a sword ... but its still shiney

morphium · August 2003

don`t u think its a little bit stupid to call critics flame, when i say the texture is to bad then i mean that he has to improve it, its no flaming this is what we call critics and no stupid w00t bla bla **** posts; u should think before u write something...

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