Lamest Marine Team Ever

RedmonkeyRedmonkey Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8052Members
<div class="IPBDescription">GoGo Map Exploit on Ns_Lost</div> Has anyone else had this happen to them?
Map is ns_lost, and the aliens are killing 'rines left and right. Me and a couple others destroy their base, and it looks like endgame, except one marine made it into the weldable room with the resource tower (Docking Access Corridor), lowered the gate, built a CC, IP, res tower, an amory, arms lab, prototype lab, TF, sieges, and started building up their res. It went on for at least ten minutes before an admin came in and kicked them all, slayed, then ended the game. The 'rines were giving themselves ha/hmgs, and claimed they were going to make a rush as soon as they were ready. Meanwhile, me and four other onos, a fade and a few lerks were waiting for them. Pretty soon half the alien team got bored of waiting and went to the ready room. The server also had some siege mod that allowed marines to use them like a sonic gatling gun.
A couple were claiming that aliens could raise the door, but I havn't heard how. We tried stomping them through the gate with onos and sporing them, but the comm just spammed meds.
Needless to say, it was really lame. I called it a map exploit, they called it good strategery.

Anyone know a way to counter this lameness?
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  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Redmonkey+Aug 25 2003, 08:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redmonkey @ Aug 25 2003, 08:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The server also had some siege mod that allowed marines to use them like a sonic gatling gun <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I believe this is the problem.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    If the comm was spamming meds, where'd they get the res to give HAs? That game would have gone nowhere and very slowly if he was that dumb.
  • azumawarriorazumawarrior Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13393Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->lowered the gate<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Never seen that done. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    did they/stuck to get in?
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited August 2003
    you can relocate to that room without welding the door open.
    its just one more "lets loose on game start" relocations spots, like below the disabled elevator in ns_nothoing marine spawn or the left lower hall of ns_nancy.

    but its not fine with manable sieges.

    how many sieges and scanners did theyz have.
    you just need some defense chambers all over and carpace gorges that bilebomb trough the door.
  • Kid-AKid-A Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10908Members
    I believe this was a new use of a old exploit. The commander can place a PG on the otherside of the door, which can then be built through the door. The marine goes through then builds more stuff.

    They <b>never</b> welded the door as that opens it. There is no way for aliens to weld it, however the marines cannot get out either (unless they use the PG exploit, which I presume you didn't allow). (Or as underdog pointed out /stuck plugin).

    Does bilebome go through walls btw?
  • Cheez1Cheez1 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12900Members
    edited August 2003
    There's a way to counter it. But alas its also kind of an exploit. You know how fades can shoot acid rockets through the glass of that pathway to marine start in ns_hera? Same applies here. If you push a fade right up to the wall and use acid rocket, it'll go through. Just get everyone to go fade and give them an acid shower.

    "My eyes! The goggles do nothing!!" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Drewbar99Drewbar99 Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16505Members
    Tis true, that would of been a sucky game, but you must think of another way to **** off aliens in dire times. CC WALLS. Nothing bets that, have a <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> farm in front of it & block the walls of with CC's, its a fun way to save yourself as Marines, but boring of Aliens jus destroying <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> all day.
  • Trojan2Trojan2 Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12290Members
    Not only can you acid spam you can allso lerk spore em, Get on top of the door and spore down at a 45 angle and it will go through the wall.
    Bile bomb allso does the trick
  • Drewbar99Drewbar99 Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16505Members
    It does work, seen it happen with my eyes <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> WTH.
  • n4s7yn4s7y Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15627Members
    It's an exploit.

    I've had games go on for hours due to this "bug."
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    Thank you for informing of this, I shall now be on the look out for people who do this.

    And for drew, don't try that cc and turret farm wall crap on my server, thats just as bad.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    its wicked, just the boost marines need on that horrible horrible map..
    a sealed in RT and arms lab is fair game imho, especially when the other res are so far away and aliens are gunna whomp your **** 90% of the time anyways.
  • RedmonkeyRedmonkey Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8052Members
    The game would have gone on forever at that point had an admin not come in and started slaying marines all at once. He gave them thirty seconds to get out (After he had slayed them and they all lost their HA <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ), and when they couldn't he kicked them all then changed the map.
  • JavertJavert Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15954Members
    acid rockets up close = gg + **** marines.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    That is sooooo nasty, I'd probably F4 myself to another server. GJ on the admin though, keeping it orderly.
  • CutterJoeCutterJoe Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11594Members, Constellation
    Actually i was on a marine team where the comm tried this tactic. He claimed we would wait for a couple of hours and get full upgrades then somehow rush out. He failed to consider that the fades on the team managed to acid rocket through the door and totally annihailate the base and us with it. I dont know how the fades did it exactly but they did and when 5 fades start AR spamming through the door not much survives for very long <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. Thats the counter to that lameness.
  • MorrikMorrik Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8247Awaiting Authorization
    I've seen this happen before.

    Acid rocket goes through the door.

    Game over.
  • MagiTekMagiTek Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5057Members
    edited August 2003
    Edit: Never mind, wrong weldable.
  • MonkeybonkMonkeybonk Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18859Banned
    Okay... um... how do you get OUT?
  • KoroKoro Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19092Members
    I was one of the marines in there XD Spore and bile bomb DO NOT go through the door btw, only the acid rocket, and if anything is built up front the onos can actually get a lil bit of it. But yea, we were dishing out HA and about to weild out when the admin killed us all =[
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    You deserve to be punished by the Admin!
    your commander was a lamer, same kinda guy who would make CC walls or explote the electrify bug!
  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Members, Constellation
    lmao,

    I will admit i done it once so far.

    TIP:::use fades - 3 hives - acid rocket through door.

    problem solved, goodnight.

    zippy
  • EplekongenEplekongen Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8915Members
    Facts down, they can build tru the door, but once they are inside they can not get out, you can not weld the door open from the inside. They have to get a phase up, wich the aliens will kill fast. This makes the game a clear endgame for the marines. Only aliens that does not know of this strat <b>have a remonte chance of 1/100</b> to fall for it.

    Also, since the marines can build tru the door, aliens can also shoot tru the door. Acid rockets, bile bombs, spikes, and spores kills them off fast.

    Marines can <b>not</b> shoot tru the door.

    All in all, it is a terrible strategy for marines, instant death no chance of victory.
  • Kid-AKid-A Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10908Members
    Any fades acid rocketing thru the door may also want around 5 MC's and adrenaline and a lerk primal screaming. With 3 fades doing that it would be GG v. soon. If they have a seige - you can't scan forever....
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    The same thing is possibility on ns_rampage, which is otherwise a very good map - the number of games I've seen ruined on that map because of marines thinking it'd be fun to hide out there is ridiculous. I really hope this doesn't become a trend on lost too.
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    *bump*

    I've thought about a fix for the docking res. How about making it similar to the freight elevator res in the old 1.04 Caged , where skulks could use a vent to reach it , and tempgorge to drop the RT , while the marines had to weld the grate. Same thing could be done in Lost , connect the Coolant vent to the top of the Docking res , that way a skulk/gorge/lerk/fade could reach it anyway.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    The best fix for this I have seen talked about was to make the door thicker so marines can't build through it. However, this does not stop the aliens from building the RT. Therefore, moving the Res Node back further <i>and</i> making the door thicker is the only answer
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    u cant lower the gate, u build the cc right next to the door, marines can build the cc through it, then build the ip, so they can build it, then have 1 -2 marines kill themselves and they respawn in there and build while the rest go on thier merry way
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Last time someone used that exploit was so fun, me and another gorge spammed MCs as many as we could build right outside and the WHOLE team went fade(something like 8 people) while waiting for the last hive to get up then we all stood there and spammed acid through the door like crazy <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->.
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