Special Oses For Servers
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<div class="IPBDescription">y???</div> y are windows 2000 server edition and windows 2003 always used for servers i know they ARE server editions of windows but do they enhance any part of the server? <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> FATTEH IS TEH BAST
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I haven't seen anything impressive about 2003 for running a game server, and winXP has a way of giving HL and other games problems. 2000 is the best Windows choice IMHO.
Of course, linux is always nice if you want to avoid the gigantic OS footprint, among other things.
That being said, you should use win 2000 advanced server it gives you 2 Terminal Services accounts free for remote administartion, has no restrictions on how many connections you can have to shared folders or drives, and has very good stability (my friend has only rebooted his server 4 times in the last year and that was to swap his 80 gig drivs (8 of them) for 120 gig drives)
You could have a GOOD server, and run Linux.
If you don't want to be an exploitable, slow, laggy, pile of poo server, that is.
EDIT:I could ezily get redhat linux 9 on the count of its free but like my friend told me where linux gets installed as a seconds OS to windows problems with come with it
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Shockie's hint of the day : <b>DON'T DO IT</b>. You end up with BOTH a lousy speed system for you, and a crappy server.
Incidentally, I'm forced to run RH for hardware reasons, but I'd suggest Debian given the choice.
1) Win 2k is fairly secure, if the administrator is not retarded. Keep it patched, and don't download freeporn.exe and you're good to go with windows. Seriously, all you people who think its 'cool' and 'smart' to say "LOLOL!!!! WINDOZE IS SLOW HAHAH U SUXX()RZ!!!11!" would never know the difference if the icon wasn't there. No one wants to hack your stupid server anyway.
2) Installing linux on the same computer as windows should pose no problems whatsoever, unless you are stupid. They are installed in completley different partitions.
3) Redhat sucks. Try debian or gentoo, although you'll need some awarness of how things work to install them.
1. W32.Blaster
2. W32.Welchia
'Nuff said?
on the other hand whats wrong with redhat?
also what does MORE SECURE mean???when ur server will constantly be in ns??seriously the chances of u gettin hacked with a real firewall like i got not that norton ****
Huge, overbloated, and generally semi crippled by it's own incompetance.
Okay, I'm stereotyping there, but you get the idea. And the reason we say more secure, is because EVERY O/S (yes, including Linux) have exploits that can be used to either destroy data/take over the machine/sell your dog/ etc etc.
The idea is, you cannot *cough* be 100% safe. But you can make it a damn sight harder than a clean install.
1. W32.Blaster
2. W32.Welchia
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I'll admit that those are fairly bad problems, but the patches have been out for a while now. Admittedly, I was hiding behind my gentoo firewall the whole time, but anyone who is too lazy to patch when something that major deserves what they get.
Besides, there have been holes in linux before (CRC 32, ptrace) so you aren't <u>completley</u> garunteed its safe.
By the way: I run a server on linux, I just don't like it when people bash a good os for no reason.
lol Nobody **** With Tux
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(Ah, the irony.)
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Also running windows XP's own firewall in tandem with a third party firewall, and so far i havent had one intrusion that wasnt stopped.
That coupled with the fact that HLDS is now optimised for windows well....
Linux may make for slightly better hardware usage, but it's an absolute **** to set up and you'll be using programs with names such as GNUdraw and GNUpicture and GNUinsertnamehere for the rest of your life.
As long as you aren't a complete arsehat with Windows, then 2000 is the way to go, just keep it secure with the latest fixes and make sure you set the page file correctly and the status as a network server (loads more things to do, but imo easier than learning how to use a totally new OS)
Thats not even funny. Please don't use language like that here, it scares small children.
I'm appalled that this is not included in the filter.
Thats not even funny. Please don't use language like that here, it scares small children.
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IMHO is In My Humble Opinion, btw. Pretty standard forum jargon.
edit: oops typo in URL
1. W32.Blaster
2. W32.Welchia
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I'll admit that those are fairly bad problems, but the patches have been out for a while now. Admittedly, I was hiding behind my gentoo firewall the whole time, but anyone who is too lazy to patch when something that major deserves what they get.
Besides, there have been holes in linux before (CRC 32, ptrace) so you aren't <u>completley</u> garunteed its safe.
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The real problem with those exploits is how widespread they are. It's not hard to imagine a system getting Windows on it, connecting to the windows update site, and already be infected before the download of the security patches is finished.
and if you think no-one wants to trojan your server, wrong! They may not be interested in you specifically, but any computer they can get is a nice addition to a DDoS network.