Let Onos Devour Turrets...?

EnronEnron Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19656Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Advantages/Disadvantages</div> Perhaps this should go in suggestions forum but I think its a good discussion topic first...

Let Onos use devour on turrets. The devour time would be a little longer than devour time of a marine.

Aliens would like it a bit as it would speed up the destruction of some Tfac's. Eat the one turret between you and him and start going to work on the fac. Multiple Onos would make quick(er) work of smaller farms.

I however, also see the marines enjoying this change. Basically, Im tired of seeing Onos running in, picking up a #2 value meal, and then stiffing the marines with the check. This change/beef/nerf would at least allow some smart marines a little defense from this instant death skill. Get behind turrets when that Onos comes in! His devour attempt would net him a turret rather than a marine.

It will still be quite the uber skill as mindless marines are bound to walk around the map and get stunned/devoured just like they always have. This change could make for another interesting twist on a great game.

Am I missing something? Could this be abused?

Comments

  • trob32trob32 Join Date: 2003-07-21 Member: 18336Members
    No. I dont see what devouring turrets would do. They are easy enough to flatten with ono gore. Umbra and Gore do the job fine.
  • EnronEnron Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19656Members
    Yeah, I know. Basically its a marine buff and an Onos nerf...work with me here <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DoADrunkMonkeyDoADrunkMonkey Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11902Members
    nmmm i quite like it, i do see onos as a turret farm destroyer, so this would make him more suited for his role.
  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    edited August 2003
    Don't see how that would be an alien nerf, seems like it would help them a bit... But it would be kind of nice, make those marine last stands not quite so long, though if you really want to make it an alien nerf you should have the onos take dmg while digesting it, hehehe. I mean that thing would still be firing wouldn't it?


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  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    Did you know that most damage an onos takes during combat is from players rather then turrets. Maybe some people just are taking player damage and thinking its turret damage. Thats just my thoughts on this subject <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • DuoTheGodOfDeathDuoTheGodOfDeath NY, Japan, Arizona, Florida Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19877Members
    Onos would die of lead poisoning.
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    a. Onoses can tear apart turret farms already, it's the players that kill them. Gore takes a turret out in seconds, no need to Devour it. Even if it were in I don't think smart Onoses would use it. And what would happen if the Onos died away from the TF?

    b. With the light damage in 2.1a Onoses don't need any more help against turrets...
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    Onos gore already does double damage vs. structures and charge pretty much owns everything short of a RT or CC. It's not really necessary.
  • JimBowenJimBowen Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16873Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuoTheGodOfDeath+Aug 19 2003, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuoTheGodOfDeath @ Aug 19 2003, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Onos would die of lead poisoning. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL! thoses 1930's marines still building structures out of lead.
  • B0Z0B0Z0 Join Date: 2003-08-12 Member: 19584Members
    turrets are chock fully of healthy vitamins and minerals, but it'll need a lot of fiber to poop out that turret!
  • RedmonkeyRedmonkey Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8052Members
    Easier than letting him eat it:
    Replace Charge with Mangle. This would be a sort of balancing nerf for the Onos (For the people who say he's too powerful....pfft, yea right.)
    Mangle would do minimal player damage (Akin to how much a Gorge's spitball does), but Mangle would do SUPAH FREAKAH damage to buildings. Once the Aliens get three hives, this should take care of those stalemates where Marines do nothing but sit behind a wall of turrets...
  • TaiDaisharTaiDaishar Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19417Members
    turret farm + regen onos = no turret farm no more.

    Onos don't need anything to make them even more powerful than they are, 1 onos is a game changer and I don't think it should be like that.

    With the dumb light damage change in 2.01d there will be even LESS chances of defending your RTs and mini bases from onos, for a creature that can be in the 7 minute mark and very easily to evolve to (100 res is not very hard to get as an alien now, heck it's too easy to get 100 res!)
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    i didn't read everyone elses posts but what came to mind was : why waste a structure that's worth more than a marine? Sincee you mention it beign a marine tactic. Aliens might as well devour a marine and gore the turrets since it'd be faster.
  • bigbadbunnybigbadbunny Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7142Members
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  • Cheez1Cheez1 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12900Members
    This would be awefull in 2.01x, since you'd die after devouring the turret...
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--JimBowen+Aug 20 2003, 01:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JimBowen @ Aug 20 2003, 01:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DuoTheGodOfDeath+Aug 19 2003, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuoTheGodOfDeath @ Aug 19 2003, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Onos would die of lead poisoning. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL! thoses 1930's marines still building structures out of lead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe theyre just really cheap miniatures for GamesWorkshop's Classic TableTop Game: Hungry Hungry Onos.

    (Yes Im aware they no longer make lead miniatures)
  • grafgraverkegrafgraverke Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19246Members
    Pewter is what they use these days <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> hmm, Onos statuette.. a paint-it-yerself package <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I for one I'd rather go for the ha/hmg combo then the lousy dirtcheap turret..

    idea has more holes then a suicidal skulk barging into pov of all turrets and charging head-on <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RatRat Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11486Members
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    A regen onos being hit by 4 or so turrets will take no net damage. 8 or so slowly kills you. Very large amounts can take some time to deal with. As mentioned, 2.1a (2.01d) turrets do half damage to onos on top of that.

    Gore kills a turret in less than 15 seconds (conservative estimate). Charge can kill more than one turret at the same time, probably slightly faster than gore can kill one.

    what more does an onos need vs turrets? Why would you leave turrets alone and hoping they will stop an onos anyway? Turrets only serve two functions: deter skulks and buy time for your marines to do the real work.
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