Is Ns Going Anywhere..?

torment_jtorment_j Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16004Members
<div class="IPBDescription">i dont think so, but thats my opinion</div> Topic title, with all the hype of 2.0 and now all the let down with the imbalnces etc, does anyone actually see NS going anywhere? Theres been talks about how NS should move to HL2 engine when its out, but that will take ages - look how long we waited for 2.0. In the mean time, is there anything thats going to attract ALOT more people to play NS?
Unless they add a few more weapons and maybe a tank, i cant see it happening. <b> This is not a flame</b>, i enjoy playing NS more than ever, im just looking at the bigger picture here.
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  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    well, you could say this about any mod...

    i expect very few mod teams have the plan of where they want their mod to get to, and then stop. it will just keep on progressing as new ideas and new suggestions come in from the players and the team.

    I'd like to see more of a storyline involved, or at least more of a storyline within individual maps...

    the mass players will come in over time when the serious balance issues have been solved. like you, i love playing ns at the moment. however, it isn't balanced... public play style is very hard to play-test as it is random and depends on far too many things.

    to be honest, who cares where it going? just take it all in stride, and get on with happy fragging.
  • pistolonlypistolonly Join Date: 2003-04-12 Member: 15437Members
    thats very true, a move over to the half life 2 engine would do nothing but improve graphics and object interactivity. And of course as mentioned, it would take a bit to port over the game, especially since the HL2 SDK <b>still</b> isnt out.

    a tank might help in the mean time <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    well its all the engine restrictions. More to the point: Does it need to go anywhere? Once it's balanced it'll be a great game. Retail games don't change completely with every update or add new features. All ns needs is balance not more gameplay aspects to make up for it.
  • RebReb Join Date: 2003-06-12 Member: 17298Members
    I'd have to agree Flayra may need to start thinking about planning for the HL2 engine, cause there's no doubt its gonna be huge and people are going to want to play mods on new engines which their new expensive hardware can support, as usual. People aren't gonna wanna be still playing on a HL engine in 6 months :|
  • standard1standard1 Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1408Members
    a tank?
    did i miss something?
  • elimelim Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9006Members, Constellation
    Just wait for the betas, it will be more balanced as it gets played out a bit more. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Until then, keep on.... <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    lol thats great 5 posts in the same minute. I think you sparked a denfensive mechanism in us with the topic.
  • torment_jtorment_j Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16004Members
    nah just amsg'd it over quakenet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • elimelim Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9006Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    NS will only get better, it all just takes time. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    SHUTUP already. God. Stop whining about imbalances.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Ns will go as far as the players will take it. If enough people are willing to play a game that focuses on the team objective first and foremost, it will thrive.


    A tank? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • KarunelKarunel Join Date: 2003-08-19 Member: 19979Members, Constellation
    Sorry but, to be honest, I can't see much sense in your concern. Ok, there's no doubt about the fact that everyone will expect NS to be ported to HL2 engine as soon as possible, but I think NS IS going "somewhere" in the meantime. Just look, 2.0 has been just released (because 18 days still stands for "just released, right"? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> ), and the betas for upgraded versions are already on testing. The game has more players every day, imho, even if some people are pretty dissapointed with 2.0.

    So, imo, don't worry man, people will keep playing NS, it's a great mod of course it could be better but I think most of us can keep playing it for a long time without expecting big changes (Although, ok, it's true, I'd expect it to be ported to HL2 engine, too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->).

    Regards,
    Karu
  • xoxoxabanaxoxoxabana Join Date: 2003-08-19 Member: 19980Members
    dnt u just lse agains2 bm?
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Aug 19 2003, 01:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Aug 19 2003, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> maybe a tank <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only if it's a HOVARTANK like in Tribes 2.
  • DramaKingDramaKing Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17582Banned
    I have a feeling this post was made because of results earlier tonight.
  • ThePhilipsThePhilips Join Date: 2002-09-09 Member: 1302Members
    75% of the clans that started 1.0 was dead by the end 1.04 , I wonder how much this one will take.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited August 2003
    All stats obtained from <a href='http://www.gamespy.com/stats/' target='_blank'>this website</a>.

    With 2500 people currently playing, NS is the 12th-most-played game listed on Gamespy stats. GAMES, not mods. It is ahead of RTCW, Vietcong, JK2, Tribes2, and more.

    In terms of mods, here is how other mods stack up:
    Half-Life: 3 mods with more players than NS.
    While other games have official gameplay modes (e.g. BF1942's standard play mode, "conquest") that boast more players than NS, Gamespy lists no other mods with more players than NS.
    ________

    Now let's look at player/server ratios.
    Half-Life: 3.3 players/server
    -CS: 3.5 p/s
    -DoD: 4.5 p/s
    -TFC: 3 p/s
    BF1942: 4.5 p/s (and remember that BF servers hold more players than HL servers)
    Wolf ET: 12 p/s
    MOH-AA: 3.4 p/s

    NS: 5 players/server

    NS ranks 12th among full games and 4th among mods. Among the top games and mods, it ranks 2nd for players:server ratio (ahead of CS, DoD, and TFC). And keep in mind that this is when NS has only 2500 players, while it has gone over 4000 and has been listed as the 3rd-place mod in the past.

    How is NS not going anywhere?
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    Hmm I thought about going back to MoH:AA and going back to the Crow King Realism server (Was 50 + players at one time) But I figured the clan behind it and Crow King are gone. :\
  • torment_jtorment_j Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16004Members
    To that mong who said "dnt u lse to bm" or whatever and that other guy saying "i think his post was about the results earlier tonight", ur both wrong, and whoever the guy who cant spell is, stop hiding behide an alias.

    I started this post coz a member of torment, and a V good friend of mine who ive known for about 3 years has decided that ns aint what its cracked up to be, hes now gonna go build his life back together, get a job etc. This made me wonder if i should do the same, ive done almost nothing in the past 8 months except play NS, and to me thats not the right way to live. Im not trying to dramatise online gaming or anything, but when u play at a level like torment's it takes up alot of ur time, unless ur just naturally leet and know every tactic out there.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    coil I want you to have my children
  • mitchellmitchell Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18217Members
    i think NS is pretty popular for a 'new' mod
    of course it'll never get like CS, i doubt any mod will, but i'm sure it'll be up there with DoD (maybe it is now) and TFC.
    i think the biggest problem is people with shite computers and GF2MXs, like most CS'ers.
    running at 10fps isn't much fun, but by the time they upgrade HL2 will be out :/
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Aug 19 2003, 05:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Aug 19 2003, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...hes now gonna go build his life back together, get a job etc. This made me wonder if i should do the same, ive done almost nothing in the past 8 months except play NS, and to me thats not the right way to live. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're just now figuring this out?
  • DramaKingDramaKing Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17582Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Aug 19 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Aug 19 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To that mong who said "dnt u lse to bm" or whatever and that other guy saying "i think his post was about the results earlier tonight", ur both wrong, and whoever the guy who cant spell is, stop hiding behide an alias.

    I started this post coz a member of torment, and a V good friend of mine who ive known for about 3 years has decided that ns aint what its cracked up to be, hes now gonna go build his life back together, get a job etc. This made me wonder if i should do the same, ive done almost nothing in the past 8 months except play NS, and to me thats not the right way to live. Im not trying to dramatise online gaming or anything, but when u play at a level like torment's it takes up alot of ur time, unless ur just naturally leet and know every tactic out there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks for the backround information on your level of play, I now truley understand how much time you put into the game by that post. [/sarcasm]

    Your friend is obsessed, I think it's good that he's going to "build" his life back together, assuming it "broke" because of NS. Though, if it broke because of NS, I don't see anything in my mind that could possibly make you post something which would do nothing but generate flames. I mean, your friend apparently ruined his life over this game, it's just that good.
  • torment_jtorment_j Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16004Members
    Maybe im ignorant or just stupid, but yeah i did just figure this out. NS had me hooked from the first time i played it. 2.0 just got me thinking, I (and a few other people) stopped enjoying being devoured by an onos with redemption in clan wars etc..
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Aug 19 2003, 04:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Aug 19 2003, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...look how long we waited for 2.0... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.

    You know what was a wait? The near year I waited for 1.0 to come out, reading everything on this board from the play testers, and itching to play myself.

    NS has definitely picked up a lot of speed, and I think is moving at a nice clip now. Where will NS be in a year from now? Two years? Well, the be frank, I hope it has become a retail product, or I hope that Flayra has sold his skills to some company who gives him the creative freedom he deserves. He has amazed thoroughly with what he managed to do in his own time with the HL engine...imagine what he might end up doing with a stronger engine, and the funding to create a team for his vision. Whether that product is the newest NS work, or something entirely new, I imagine I will most likely be playing it.

    As for now, I'm enjoying NS 2.0.

    -Ryan!


    "We have to live today by what truth we can get today and be ready tomorrow to call it falsehood."
    -- William James
  • torment_jtorment_j Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16004Members
    edited August 2003
    No, his life was 'broke' already, NS just gave him another excuse not to get it sorted out.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I can remember the first time we played NS ever

    it was at school and as we played our jaws completely and totally dropped


    ns is going places, but I will leave coil to do the arguing for me cause he does a good job <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DramaKingDramaKing Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17582Banned
    Holy ****, HB! Where the hell have you been? Long time no see old friend <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DramaKingDramaKing Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17582Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Aug 19 2003, 04:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Aug 19 2003, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe im ignorant or just stupid, but yeah i did just figure this out. NS had me hooked from the first time i played it. 2.0 just got me thinking, I (and a few other people) stopped enjoying being devoured by an onos with redemption in clan wars etc.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Have you looked at the upcoming 2.1 patch? I can gaurentee it will spice up NS again.
  • torment_jtorment_j Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16004Members
    Yeah i have, and i dont see a tank.
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