hehe yeah the amount of times i've seen little noob aliens go into vents and look back and get all 10 bullets from my pistol into them in a second only to yell "Hacker omg you cant kill that fast with a pistol!"
ssjyodaJoin Date: 2002-03-05Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
ive neva been called a cheat in ns till now. I was hiding as a skulk with cloke right outside marine base. And none of them found me, got easily 10 straight kills. = Ban, evil vote system
I have seen a few real cheats, however... Or, well, one. Some guy was blink-slashing (no, not blink then slash, he was literally blinking through entire groups of guys and killing them instantly, straight through). Luckily, I haven't seen this duplicated elsewhere.
Indeed. Despite horribly stacked teams (against every player except that one fade we completely rocked), the game went back and forth for 2 hours (was fun, however), and, in the end, that fade's ability to wipe out wave after wave of troops forced us to resort to desperate measures... Server ended up crashing, but not before we had broken "The Last Boyscout" record for cursing, all because of one fade. We even killed him a few times (best was when he stepped on my grenades), but fades are cheap, and all the moreso when they can blink+slash (yes, he was getting slash kills).
<!--QuoteBegin--ZiGGY^+Aug 17 2003, 09:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Aug 17 2003, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the number of serious cheat accusations has gone up dramatically since the release of 2.0?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I guess I haven't noticed that myself, but I started playing almost only on the rr server after 2.0 and noone's stupid enough to cheat there. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> People have even stopped accusing me of speed hacking/ teleport hacking etc. when I lag too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . I've noticed a decrease in accusations, but I guess it's more because of the server/ atmosphere then anything else. Also unlike 1.04 when I dropped an arms lab and got weapons 1 going in the first 5 seconds of the game, weapon and armor upgrades seem to be low on peoples priority list now, which can add to people not complaining about pistolers with good aim; well that's just what I noticed anyway. Have a nice day.
I managed to earn myself one last night, from a regular too. Sorta. Someone's bad night, and my good night <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I haven't seen one person shout "CHEAT" yet. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its also because of 1st person spectating. When you think first person spectating "shows" you everything the player "sees" (without cheats) you are damn wrong!!!!
Sound: Sound cards are different, you hear different stuff in different volumes fading away in different speeds having differend special effects (echo). on old sound cards yopu hear bullets dropping 3 times louder than on newer cards. Therefore walking is half as loud.
Voice: 2rd party voice communication (roger wilco...), nothing illegal about using this in correct ways (like no game relevant death talk allowed). this improves coordination by factor 5.
HUD: You dont see motion tracking or waypoints in 3rd person view. You also rarely see the aliens choosen upgrade and some hivesight info.
Experience: You dont know how good people know each other, know each others weak spots, know to trap/fool each other. Know attacking each others weak spots always beeing on the weakest place on the map. There is a reason when a marine looks up to the ceeling in zero time when he enters a room with a camping alien on top, and this must not be an aimbot.
Simple scripts: Oh come on. binding 4 buttons to select 4 weapons way faster is no cheat. HL is made to use scripts, Flay blocked extreme fast switching by deelays, thank good, so theres nothing unfair in simple scripts anymore. Its more like really skillfull timing.
Different skill: NS is really unique in teamplay and class abilities like wallclimbing and structure placement. You really can learn a LOT in this mod and still learn more. Different ppl learn to handle different strategies in different speed. when a new version releases you always get lots of "fresh meat" to hunt.
I've been accused of hacking twice, once was a joke (I killed 6 marines as a skulk and one of the regulars said "H4x <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ") and the other was a n00b who said "OMG" or "OMG" or something after every single time he died. Like he is so skilled it is impossible to kill him...
*Edit* The 2nd OMG wasn't supposed to be OMG, it got changed to that by the filter <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> *edit*
<!--QuoteBegin--Ollj+Aug 18 2003, 06:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Aug 18 2003, 06:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its also because of 1st person spectating. When you think first person spectating "shows" you everything the player "sees" (without cheats) you are damn wrong!!!!
Sound: Sound cards are different, you hear different stuff in different volumes fading away in different speeds having differend special effects (echo). on old sound cards yopu hear bullets dropping 3 times louder than on newer cards. Therefore walking is half as loud.
Voice: 2rd party voice communication (roger wilco...), nothing illegal about using this in correct ways (like no game relevant death talk allowed). this improves coordination by factor 5.
HUD: You dont see motion tracking or waypoints in 3rd person view. You also rarely see the aliens choosen upgrade and some hivesight info.
Experience: You dont know how good people know each other, know each others weak spots, know to trap/fool each other. Know attacking each others weak spots always beeing on the weakest place on the map. There is a reason when a marine looks up to the ceeling in zero time when he enters a room with a camping alien on top, and this must not be an aimbot.
Simple scripts: Oh come on. binding 4 buttons to select 4 weapons way faster is no cheat. HL is made to use scripts, Flay blocked extreme fast switching by deelays, thank good, so theres nothing unfair in simple scripts anymore. Its more like really skillfull timing.
Different skill: NS is really unique in teamplay and class abilities like wallclimbing and structure placement. You really can learn a LOT in this mod and still learn more. Different ppl learn to handle different strategies in different speed. when a new version releases you always get lots of "fresh meat" to hunt.
Ive still spectated a few "95% sure" cheaters. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So far, I've only been sure that someone was cheating twice, I specced, statuses and demo'd them both times and I was bang on. The first one was a marine with every single bullet hitting, turning a corner and immediately jerking to plant half a clip in a skulk's face (if they were using motion tracking they'd have been watching the blip before they turned the corner).
The second was a Lerk using an aimbot who magically tracked targets while flying and switched between targets instantly (and jerkilly) once they died, who never missed a spike, and who retreated, stopped for a bit doing nothing, and when he returned to battle was aiming normally (he realised I was speccing him and switched it off, is my guess).
I once got accused of hacking because I shot a skulk with my pistol from the entrance of maintenace hive in eclipse. He was all the way in the back, near the hive. He thought I had a 'no recoil' hack and didn't believe me when myself and most of the server said pistol is 100% accurate.
It's more of a compliment then a flame if they call me a hacker while i'm not <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I was never called a Haxor before until 2.0 was out. I accidently killed 6 marines with that devour bug. Its that bug that kills anyone near the Onos when the Marine in side is digested.
I was called every dirty name in the book! Wasn't my fault!
<!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Aug 18 2003, 09:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Aug 18 2003, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was never called a Haxor before until 2.0 was out. I accidently killed 6 marines with that devour bug. Its that bug that kills anyone near the Onos when the Marine in side is digested.
I was called every dirty name in the book! Wasn't my fault! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That would stink though if you were a rine, I mean think about it. I had an onos devour one of my heavies through the wall, if I wasn't a lady, or there wasn't a swear filter I would have called him a few things myself. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--ssjyoda+Aug 17 2003, 09:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Aug 17 2003, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ive neva been called a cheat in ns till now. I was hiding as a skulk with cloke right outside marine base. And none of them found me, got easily 10 straight kills. = Ban, evil vote system <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wow, so few posts from a long time dweller, we need to hear more of your wisdom <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
ive pretty much stop hearing cheat accusations when im on xzilens server the only people i kick (or temp ban if xilen wasnt so mean and not give) are pretty much **** who mess up the gtame and ruin everyones time
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Indeed. Despite horribly stacked teams (against every player except that one fade we completely rocked), the game went back and forth for 2 hours (was fun, however), and, in the end, that fade's ability to wipe out wave after wave of troops forced us to resort to desperate measures... Server ended up crashing, but not before we had broken "The Last Boyscout" record for cursing, all because of one fade. We even killed him a few times (best was when he stepped on my grenades), but fades are cheap, and all the moreso when they can blink+slash (yes, he was getting slash kills).
I guess I haven't noticed that myself, but I started playing almost only on the rr server after 2.0 and noone's stupid enough to cheat there. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> People have even stopped accusing me of speed hacking/ teleport hacking etc. when I lag too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . I've noticed a decrease in accusations, but I guess it's more because of the server/ atmosphere then anything else. Also unlike 1.04 when I dropped an arms lab and got weapons 1 going in the first 5 seconds of the game, weapon and armor upgrades seem to be low on peoples priority list now, which can add to people not complaining about pistolers with good aim; well that's just what I noticed anyway. Have a nice day.
--Jane <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
i've never been accused of cheating - just intuition
When you think first person spectating "shows" you everything the player "sees" (without cheats) you are damn wrong!!!!
Sound:
Sound cards are different, you hear different stuff in different volumes fading away in different speeds having differend special effects (echo).
on old sound cards yopu hear bullets dropping 3 times louder than on newer cards. Therefore walking is half as loud.
Voice:
2rd party voice communication (roger wilco...), nothing illegal about using this in correct ways (like no game relevant death talk allowed). this improves coordination by factor 5.
HUD:
You dont see motion tracking or waypoints in 3rd person view.
You also rarely see the aliens choosen upgrade and some hivesight info.
Experience:
You dont know how good people know each other, know each others weak spots, know to trap/fool each other. Know attacking each others weak spots always beeing on the weakest place on the map.
There is a reason when a marine looks up to the ceeling in zero time when he enters a room with a camping alien on top, and this must not be an aimbot.
Simple scripts:
Oh come on. binding 4 buttons to select 4 weapons way faster is no cheat.
HL is made to use scripts, Flay blocked extreme fast switching by deelays, thank good, so theres nothing unfair in simple scripts anymore. Its more like really skillfull timing.
Different skill:
NS is really unique in teamplay and class abilities like wallclimbing and structure placement.
You really can learn a LOT in this mod and still learn more. Different ppl learn to handle different strategies in different speed. when a new version releases you always get lots of "fresh meat" to hunt.
Ive still spectated a few "95% sure" cheaters.
*Edit* The 2nd OMG wasn't supposed to be OMG, it got changed to that by the filter <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> *edit*
When you think first person spectating "shows" you everything the player "sees" (without cheats) you are damn wrong!!!!
Sound:
Sound cards are different, you hear different stuff in different volumes fading away in different speeds having differend special effects (echo).
on old sound cards yopu hear bullets dropping 3 times louder than on newer cards. Therefore walking is half as loud.
Voice:
2rd party voice communication (roger wilco...), nothing illegal about using this in correct ways (like no game relevant death talk allowed). this improves coordination by factor 5.
HUD:
You dont see motion tracking or waypoints in 3rd person view.
You also rarely see the aliens choosen upgrade and some hivesight info.
Experience:
You dont know how good people know each other, know each others weak spots, know to trap/fool each other. Know attacking each others weak spots always beeing on the weakest place on the map.
There is a reason when a marine looks up to the ceeling in zero time when he enters a room with a camping alien on top, and this must not be an aimbot.
Simple scripts:
Oh come on. binding 4 buttons to select 4 weapons way faster is no cheat.
HL is made to use scripts, Flay blocked extreme fast switching by deelays, thank good, so theres nothing unfair in simple scripts anymore. Its more like really skillfull timing.
Different skill:
NS is really unique in teamplay and class abilities like wallclimbing and structure placement.
You really can learn a LOT in this mod and still learn more. Different ppl learn to handle different strategies in different speed. when a new version releases you always get lots of "fresh meat" to hunt.
Ive still spectated a few "95% sure" cheaters. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So far, I've only been sure that someone was cheating twice, I specced, statuses and demo'd them both times and I was bang on. The first one was a marine with every single bullet hitting, turning a corner and immediately jerking to plant half a clip in a skulk's face (if they were using motion tracking they'd have been watching the blip before they turned the corner).
The second was a Lerk using an aimbot who magically tracked targets while flying and switched between targets instantly (and jerkilly) once they died, who never missed a spike, and who retreated, stopped for a bit doing nothing, and when he returned to battle was aiming normally (he realised I was speccing him and switched it off, is my guess).
Dahmn you people with CS weapon mindsets.
just kidding
and no, cheat accusations are almost non existent,mainly cos i dont play on pubbies full of those who might accuse.
I accidently killed 6 marines with that devour bug. Its that bug that kills anyone near the Onos when the Marine in side is digested.
I was called every dirty name in the book!
Wasn't my fault!
I accidently killed 6 marines with that devour bug. Its that bug that kills anyone near the Onos when the Marine in side is digested.
I was called every dirty name in the book!
Wasn't my fault! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That would stink though if you were a rine, I mean think about it. I had an onos devour one of my heavies through the wall, if I wasn't a lady, or there wasn't a swear filter I would have called him a few things myself. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
--Jane
Wow, so few posts from a long time dweller, we need to hear more of your wisdom <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->