Team Balance And Switching

Simple_CompoundSimple_Compound Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16180Members
in General Server Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">what happened?</div> well i noticed when i upgraded my server to 2.0, people were able to stack teams with no problem and immediatley switch to the other whenever they wanted. this is annoying me. does anyone have a fix for this? thanks in advance
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  • EnemyWithinEnemyWithin Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5572Members
    I'm glad the ability to switch teams is back <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I just wish you could limit the max size of a team. If you run a 16 player server, then one team should never be greater than 8 players.
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  • Simple_CompoundSimple_Compound Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16180Members
    yes but what about the llamas that play marines for 10 minutes to get a feel of their strategy then goes over to alien and tells his teammates then foils the marines plan everytime? i know what youre going to say. "just ban him". i cant be on the server 24/7 to watch out for llamas like this. the ability to switch teams should be optional.
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  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    I'd rather see this problem fixed with a metamod plugin on a server-by-server basis rather than fixed by Flayra with hardcoded limits.

    Besides, using metamod plugins gives you more flexibility, like autobalance plugins that shuffle the teams to be fair every 5 minutes or so.
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  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    yea it's really bad now.
    and when game can start 5vs3, and everybody stack the same team for 3 mins. then the game totaly ruined. argh!
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  • SandmanSandman Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9870Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--EnemyWithin+Aug 5 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EnemyWithin @ Aug 5 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm glad the ability to switch teams is back <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I just wish you could limit the max size of a team. If you run a 16 player server, then one team should never be greater than 8 players. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im SO glad it's back as well. There is nothing worse then having a great 40 minute game go to waste when on a 20 player server, 5 players leave all from the same team and there was no way to switch teams to balance them out again.


    EnemyWithin, check your server.cfg for "mp_limitteams". Whatever yours maybe set to, change it to "mp_limitteams 1".
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sandman+Aug 6 2003, 12:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandman @ Aug 6 2003, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--EnemyWithin+Aug 5 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EnemyWithin @ Aug 5 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm glad the ability to switch teams is back <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->  I just wish you could limit the max size of a team.  If you run a 16 player server, then one team should never be greater than 8 players. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im SO glad it's back as well. There is nothing worse then having a great 40 minute game go to waste when on a 20 player server, 5 players leave all from the same team and there was no way to switch teams to balance them out again.


    EnemyWithin, check your server.cfg for "mp_limitteams". Whatever yours maybe set to, change it to "mp_limitteams 1". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, please! It's even worse when it's 1v3.

    Worst of all, is there is absolutely no reason to allow a difference between teams of more than one. The game just does not work that way. Obviously the combat is skewed, but the res system gets out of whack as well. I really hope in a future patch this gets defaulted to 1. I'm gonna put that one in the suggestions forum once it opens up...
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  • CheesyPetezaCheesyPeteza Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9784Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    With mp_limitteams set to 1 though your then stuck with the can't join either team bug if there is a team difference of >2.
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  • Dodgy_BobDodgy_Bob Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13317Members
    Aye Cheesy, and that is a REAL pain in the arse!
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  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    *bump*

    is this the same as it was when it occured in ns1.04 ? cause if so, going into random team portal always sorted it.. although you don't get a choice, you still get in the game.
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  • SandmanSandman Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9870Members
    edited August 2003
    True but any way you look at it, 2 vs 2 is better then 1 vs 3 any day of the week unless you playing against bots or friends but then who cares?
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  • modiemodie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13758Members, Constellation
    Are there any mods that allow you to have all of the doors lead to random team?
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  • SandmanSandman Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9870Members
    edited August 2003
    Adminmod has a plugin that does just that. I asked the guys at AMX mod to make me a plugin like that and they were like, what's NS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • AndyonceAndyonce Join Date: 2003-08-16 Member: 19799Members
    Metamod plugin:
    <a href='http://www.modns.org/viewtopic.php?t=82' target='_blank'>http://www.modns.org/viewtopic.php?t=82</a>
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  • Rick_DeckardRick_Deckard Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12855Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CheesyPeteza+Aug 9 2003, 02:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CheesyPeteza @ Aug 9 2003, 02:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> With mp_limitteams set to 1 though your then stuck with the can't join either team bug if there is a team difference of >2. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yep.. really annoying. But better than a team difference of 2 right form the start.
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  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--modie+Aug 16 2003, 08:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (modie @ Aug 16 2003, 08:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are there any mods that allow you to have all of the doors lead to random team? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NSRandomTeam
    <a href='http://them.clanwho.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=12' target='_blank'>http://them.clanwho.com/forums/index.php?a...act=ST&f=2&t=12</a>
    <a href='http://them.clanwho.com/downloads/nsrandomteam_1.01.zip' target='_blank'>http://them.clanwho.com/downloads/nsrandom...omteam_1.01.zip</a>
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  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    edited August 2003
    Direct download <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • modiemodie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13758Members, Constellation
    random team door thanks you!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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