Just Saw Flcl On Adult Swim

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  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Aug 9 2003, 09:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Aug 9 2003, 09:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MedHead+Aug 9 2003, 05:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 9 2003, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Fina+Aug 7 2003, 03:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fina @ Aug 7 2003, 03:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just avoid anime out-right. I really don't see what's so great about it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Neither do I. The character can move across the floor fluently, the scenery in the background can be crisp, and even the angles at which the art is drawn in inventive. But then the character opens his or her mouth, and it widens to three times the normal size. And then the character moves. And the background becomes a disco ball blur-fest. And then the character gets mad. And his or her eyes WOBBLE. Oh yeah. That happens to everyone.

    I don't understand how anime can get so many things spot on, but miss such essentials as accurate mouth movements and somewhat life-like characters. Is there ANYTHING in anime that looks real, or is it all the typical big mouth, triangle nose, huge eyes, minuscule body, scantily dressed sorta thing?

    /end rant <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Anime is still a cartoon. Don't be expecting real-life from animation.... *shrugs*

    If you went some very good 'technical' anime, such as what you describe is lacking from a lot of anime,<i> <b>please</b></i> try the 2 Rurouni Kenshin OVA's. The visuals are amazing and you will not be dissappointed, I assure you.

    In actuality it is just a single OVA, but because of the time difference between the 5th and 6th Episode (2 years) they are commonly referred to by their original airing names and as 2 seperate OVA's

    Rurouni Kenshin Reminisence aired in 1999 and was 4 episodes long
    Rurouni Kenshin Seisouhen aired in 2001 and was 2 episodes long

    For some god awful reason, releases of both OVAs were entitled Samurai X.... so yeah...

    <a href='http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/2058.php' target='_blank'>First OVA on DVD (Click here for review)</a>
    <a href='http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/1872.php' target='_blank'>Second OVA on DVD (Click here for review)</a>


    I personally love the video animation, but loathe the story. Mainly because the Enishi Arc was NEVER created in the TV series or given justice in the OVA format. They ruined how the Kenshin series was meant to end..... bah... I'm just crappy that a magnifecent 10 Volume manga was turned into this garbage... Everything else is superb, just the story shits me to tears ;/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NO, you fricking NUBS!!!

    go get Jin-Roh

    it will <b>EASILY</b> be the most realistic animated film you have EVER seen, in terms of movement, physics, background art, etc.

    I mean, when you simulate the upward pull of an MG42 firing at full rate held with only your hands, and the Mauser rounds rake the ground closer and closer and then the person is suddenly riddled and perforated in a shower of flying metal... you'd think his mouth would get big, right?

    Nah, it doesn't. They've all got nice, realistic faces.

    Inf, you gotta remember that these kids are angry at kawaii/bishounen animes. So don't give them a bishie anime if that's what they're complaining about.

    <b>edit</b>: for any, uhm, particularly <i>deluded</i> individuals out there, here's some evidence.

    <img src='http://www.angelfire.com/blog/johnca/Fuse1.txt.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.angelfire.com/blog/johnca/Girl.txt.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.angelfire.com/blog/johnca/Girl2.txt.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.angelfire.com/blog/johnca/PanzerCops2.txt.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    GOD, BOOKS ALWAYS HAVE SO MANY PAGES, AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE <b><i>PICTURES</i></b>, TOO, IT'S SO ANNOYING!!! AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE HARD COVERS!!!!

    think about what you're SAYING before you POST... <i>CHRIST</i>....
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MedHead+Aug 9 2003, 03:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 9 2003, 03:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Aug 9 2003, 08:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Aug 9 2003, 08:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you went some very good 'technical' anime, such as what you describe is lacking from a lot of anime,<i> <b>please</b></i> try the 2 Rurouni Kenshin OVA's. The visuals are amazing and you will not be dissappointed, I assure you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks! I think that anime artists are very talented, but I hadn't ever been able to find an anime movie that really appealed to me. Perhaps these will. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No! Stay away from Samurai X! It are teh devil! This is the kind of anime that convinces people that all anime sucks!
  • Fenrir51Fenrir51 Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7339Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jin-Roh+Aug 9 2003, 03:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 9 2003, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I mean, when you simulate the upward pull of an MG42 firing at full rate held with only your hands <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah its so realistic with a guy shooting an MG42 from his hip and running around with body armor and some belts of ammo on his back. The movie was a giant emotional failure.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    ^ he's sensitive... don't bother him.


    hey hive, and inf... do you actually <i>know</i> the story of how sailor moon was cannibalized by the censors?
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Excellent, Jin-Roh... you have given me the ammunition I need to convince one of my friends that anime doesn't suck. Onward!
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Aug 9 2003, 08:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Aug 9 2003, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Excellent, Jin-Roh... you have given me the ammunition I need to convince one of my friends that anime doesn't suck. Onward! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    glad to have helped, buddy.

    ^_^


    ... and to have secretly planted the seed of the evil that is Jin-Roh in another virgin mind.. yehhhhss.... ehhhxcellent.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jin-Roh+Aug 6 2003, 09:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 6 2003, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b>Golden rule of a <i>true</i> anime fan:
    Never. Watch. Dub.</b></span>

    [and]

    <b><span style='color:red'>Dub is the ANTICHRIST</span></b>

    [and]

    <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>SAILOR SCOUTS!?? <b>WHAT ARE THEY SCOUTING FOR!??!?!?</b></span></span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->



    Made me detonate my synuses... and then Gadzuko comes along and lobotomizes me further...

    i've been laughing for atleast 3 minutes now. please. make. it. stop. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    *cough* *cough*
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jin-Roh+Aug 9 2003, 08:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 9 2003, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey hive, and inf... do you actually <i>know</i> the story of how sailor moon was cannibalized by the censors? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you refering to the nudity or the lesbians?
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    ...any of those wonderful things. -_-

    they turned a deliciously effeminate villain <i>guy</i> into a gratingly annoying girl, too. don't forget about that.

    and the TRANSFORMATIONS, too... with the drag queen heroes with bra padding? none of that, either.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 9 2003, 06:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 9 2003, 06:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you refering to the nudity or the lesbians? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *left eyebrow raise, 5 millimeters; superior smirk apear in 3... 2... 1...*

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Oh no, i sense lockage aproaching... (or not)
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited August 2003
    Can I just point out, to anyone who watches anime and can't understand why everyone's mouth gets so big when they talk, what the stylised sweat drops are for, why everyone seems to have unnatural hair colour, and why everyone's eyes are so enormous and glassy: anime isn't your thing. Leave it at that. If you have to ask, you don't belong <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Oh, and <a href='http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail57.html' target='_blank'>this</a>.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Gotta love originality.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    Ahhh strong bad. hella funny.

    *sigh* most. entertaining. post. ever. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    seyuu....I want Ayamu Hamasaki.....(sis to the girl that plays Rei Ayanami)

    seyuu's=t3h h0tz0rz.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jin-Roh+Aug 10 2003, 11:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 10 2003, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey hive, and inf... do you actually <i>know</i> the story of how sailor moon was cannibalized by the censors? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/2162.php' target='_blank'>Stop</a> <a href='http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/2400.php' target='_blank'>whining</a>

    >=D
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    At least Sailor Moon can be enjoyed in it's original language...

    I'm afraid I will never see Dragonball Z uncut on Region 1 (Let alone 4) DVD =/
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Aug 10 2003, 05:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Aug 10 2003, 05:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At least Sailor Moon can be enjoyed in it's original language...

    I'm afraid I will never see Dragonball Z uncut on Region 1 (Let alone 4) DVD =/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    [SARCASM]What a pity[/SARCASM]. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I've only seen one episode of DBZ, and it was pretty pointless. Even my friends who watch it admit that it's pointless <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    Dubbed DBZ I agree is hopeless.

    Subbed DBZ is pretty cool, 'Tournament' Anime (Find the bad guy, through good guys at bad guy until hero turns up) is a required taste <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    It's kinda like Subbed Sailor Moon Vs Dubbed Sailor Moon. There just isn't any comparison.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Aug 10 2003, 04:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Aug 10 2003, 04:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At least Sailor Moon can be enjoyed in it's original language...

    I'm afraid I will never see Dragonball Z uncut on Region 1 (Let alone 4) DVD =/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not really a problem, if you don't mind a bit of illegality. I won't post any links or anything to hopefully prevent nuking, but it is quite possible to get DVD players reset to play any region DVD.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    That's not the problem, both my Stand-alone DVD Player and my DVD-ROM are region free.

    The problem lays in the fact Dragonball Z was reworked in North America as a kid's show, so I doubt I will ever see an uncut DVD version with PROPER subtitles.

    Perhaps with enough time we'll see it, but I'm not counting on it really. I'm gonna pray for an unedited version of Dragonball making a Region 4 release =D
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    DBZ is not very good in either language, if you ask me. Dragon Ball I can stand, but DBZ and DBGT make me want to take my TV and throw it at someome's head. And Sailor Moon is the same, I just do not like the concept of long drawn-out transformation sequences and then every enemy dies after the same attack. At least Ronin Warriors (which is of the same style) saves itself by being an endless source of Yaoi, which I find to be absolutely hilarious.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 10 2003, 05:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 10 2003, 05:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> DBZ is not very good in either language, if you ask me. Dragon Ball I can stand, but DBZ and DBGT make me want to take my TV and throw it at someome's head. And Sailor Moon is the same, I just do not like the concept of long drawn-out transformation sequences and then every enemy dies after the same attack. At least Ronin Warriors (which is of the same style) saves itself by being an endless source of Yaoi, which I find to be absolutely hilarious. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ronin Warriors is an endless source of yaoi, yes.. but it's only spawned *more* yaoi than <b>Gundam Wing</b> because it's been around longer.. ^_~
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Well Gundam Wing is kind of a no-brainer, and although most of the girls I know who write slash and draw Yaoi prefer the GW characters to any other series(cept for one who's obsessed with doing Cowboy Bebop stuff), Ronin Warriors is a little less obvious and most of it that I've seen is written better then most GW.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    i getcha. gundam wing was just... a serious c*ckfest. and the around the only <i>possible</i> love interest, heero was a frickin ice queen. man, that was hilarious. i loved that show for the completely gheey undertones.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Well Duo is seen with Hilde atthe end of Endless Waltz, so he is ruled out, but he is more of a target for slash because of it.
  • MonkeybonkMonkeybonk Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18859Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--MedHead+Aug 9 2003, 02:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 9 2003, 02:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Fina+Aug 7 2003, 03:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fina @ Aug 7 2003, 03:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just avoid anime out-right. I really don't see what's so great about it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Neither do I. The character can move across the floor fluently, the scenery in the background can be crisp, and even the angles at which the art is drawn in inventive. But then the character opens his or her mouth, and it widens to three times the normal size. And then the character moves. And the background becomes a disco ball blur-fest. And then the character gets mad. And his or her eyes WOBBLE. Oh yeah. That happens to everyone.

    I don't understand how anime can get so many things spot on, but miss such essentials as accurate mouth movements and somewhat life-like characters. Is there ANYTHING in anime that looks real, or is it all the typical big mouth, triangle nose, huge eyes, minuscule body, scantily dressed sorta thing?

    /end rant <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only anime I've ever enjoyed was Cowboy Bebop:

    No huge eyes.

    No stupid emotion scenes.

    No massive mouths.

    NO BLUE HAIR.

    The only exception was Radical Edward, and I hated her.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    You do realise that a very large amount of anime is exactly the way you have described Cowboy Bebop from being different from most anime, right?
  • MonkeybonkMonkeybonk Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18859Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mr. Headcrab+Aug 9 2003, 11:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Headcrab @ Aug 9 2003, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The whole reason for the over-exaggerated facial features is to better display emotion. When you get ****, people can tell because of subtle changes in the details of your face, since Anime characters have little detail in the faces, features become exaggerated in order to display the emotions lost due to the animated nature. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Like I just said in the thread above: Cowboy Bebop had rarely any big-eyes huge mouths, etc. And it portrayed emotion quite well.

    There's more to emotion then showing 'fear' as a HUGE MASSIVE DROP on the side of their head. If you can't show emotion through your script, your drawings, and the setting by getting the viewer INTO THE SERIES, and you have to resort to crap like huge eyes etc., then you're a failure. Plain and simple.
  • MonkeybonkMonkeybonk Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18859Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 10 2003, 08:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 10 2003, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realise that a very large amount of anime is exactly the way you have described Cowboy Bebop from being different from most anime, right? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So instead I can watch either:

    1) Rediculous kung-fu in a modern environment. Please, doesn't anyone pack heat when half-naked man #12 starts getting his Real Utlimate Power on?

    2) People with cat ears or crap like that.

    3) Perverted animators drawing 20 minute long sex scenes.
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