Renting Servers

localhost2600 · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Where do you rent from?</div> I appoligize if i've asked this before, but who rents servers from where? I'm looking into gettin a server and started shopping around.

DEADscott · August 2003

Been with this host for 6 months now.......very happy. <a href='http://www.bfgservers.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.bfgservers.com/</a>

Unknown · August 2003

If you are looking for the absolute best god-box's of servers, check out GibGames. <a href='http://www.gibgames.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.gibgames.com/</a> . I currently rent a 23 person NS server from them. The prices are a little high, but the customer service, and their support team are ready to go 24/7. The servers are also super fast. When I get max load of 22 persons, the pings never rise above 70-90. Very excellent servers, I suggest you look into them.

I_Am_The_Force · August 2003

I am with elucid systems. Low prices and you can install whatever you want on your server just no support for any mods installed. <a href='http://www,elucidsystems.com' target='_blank'>elucid</a>

voogru · August 2003

I been with this host for past 3 months, *VERY* happy with pricing. On a 24 player server 30 mins into game pings are all below 100 (in ns_eclipse).

www.servermatrix.com

I pay $150 a month, whole box is MINE MINE MINE AND MINE.

Unknown · August 2003

Bah, I pay $122 , so the pricing schemes are not really varied for competition I beleive. Well I got 23 slots, but one is reserved.

EDIT- My server also has the same qualities as yours voogru, Pings are always acceptable, and its the servers nothing but a speed demon. They upgraded mine for free from a 2.4ghz xeon to a 2.8ghz, very pleased I must say.

Server Stats- Located in Dallas, Texas - 2.8ghz Xeon processor - 1gb DDR Ram - 60gb stripped SCSI HD's

H_U_M_P · August 2003

Yep what Voogru just said.
When you rent a shaired server you allwase get screwed somehow (thenetgamer.com) One day your server will run fine then it gos down hill from there and you get stuck with a bad server for a high price. With the server voogru is talking about you can run your game server (as many players as YOU want), web page, Rogerwilco/vint or whatever your little hart wants. NO BS SERVERS www.servermatrix.com lets see some of them ripoff game server co's beat that deal!!! (griffenrun thenetgamer exct = ripoff)

O and the network you are on is:
UUNet - GigE Connection (1000Mbps)
Level 3 - GigE Connection (1000Mbps)
Verio - GigE Connection (1000Mbps)
Time Warner - GigE Connection(1000Mbps)
Global Crossing - GigE Connection (1000Mbps)
Allegiance Telecom - GigE Connection (1000Mbps)
ATT - OC3 Connection (155Mbps) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Grimm_Spector · August 2003

branzone has kicked **** for us for quite awhile now, and you get SSH to your server, so you always have control.

<a href='http://www.branzone.com' target='_blank'>www.branzone.com</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Merc248 · August 2003

www.interland.com

EXTREMELY cheap right now, and it has more features than some of the other providers out there for lower prices.

NGOwner · August 2003

Check out <a href='http://www.thenetgamer.com' target='_blank'>http://www.thenetgamer.com</a>

Fair prices for a quality server.

[NG]Owner

antifreeze · August 2003

I dont know how you people can afford servers, $150 a month. WTH are you a millionaire

localhost2600 · August 2003

Thanks everyone for all your recomendations. One more question, i know cpu usage has dropped tremendously, do you think its low enough to run two servers off a box simmilar to the one voogru has? about 16 slots each....i think its pushin it a bit but figured i'd ask

kuperaye · August 2003

localhost get yer server up NOW cuz i wanna play it (nexxus (yer bro) told me about it and ill drop by when i ge tthe ip from him) i need another good server right now

ps this is Bluntman so i played with nexxus a lot

localhost2600 · August 2003

more than welcome to show up, i'm working on it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

GoleX · August 2003

Most of the game hosting companies are just reselling servers with support from the large co-lo hosters.

I skipped the middle man, and have been owning various servers at Rackshack for a year now. You can get your own box, completely yours, for alot cheaper then most people have been quoting here. You are also free to run anything, not just game servers. For example, I run our clan's website and a demo FTP amongst other things on the same box.

<a href='http://www.rackshack.net' target='_blank'>http://www.rackshack.net</a>

H_U_M_P · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (localhost2600 @ Aug 5 2003, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> One more question, i know cpu usage has dropped tremendously, do you think its low enough to run two servers off a box simmilar to the one voogru has? about 16 slots each....i think its pushin it a bit but figured i'd ask  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
If you run 2 servers on the one cpu on map change the other server (still playing) will get a leg spike. Most players dont like that. I feel it is up to you. You can run the 32 players though. I did this and 2.0 was no fun. 20 to 24 players makes a good game.

150 a month is not much for a TRUE server. Not just a game server <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

Also with matrix is a 2 ring SLA 24/7. Server problem? have it fiXed now!!!

modie · August 2003

We get our boxes from superbservers.com

They have peering with most of the major ISP's. I have 8 hops to my servers from the west coast to the servers on the east coast.

Your renting the servers from the top and not from the middleman, so you can do anything that you like, and they aren't overselling their bandwidth like others are.

209.61.224.100:27015 if you want to check out the pings.

Your also going to want to consider that running the server by itself is no problem, but add on adminmod and metamod, and the processor starts going up from there. You really have to play around with it to find out what's right for you.

HKHeretic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Aug 5 2003, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>www.servermatrix.com</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
That's part of ThePlanet.com. That's where my box is located. They have a GODLY network.

HKHeretic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([]--[] []_[] []V[] []0 @ Aug 5 2003, 09:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If you run 2 servers on the one cpu on map change the other server (still playing) will get a leg spike. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
That's not neccessarily true. I ran several CS servers, DoD, and NS for awhile--though DoD went away for NS2.0. On my box, map changes and disk I/O in general NEVER cause lag. If course, I have a nice SCSI setup and lots of RAM for disk cache. Map changes take about .5 seconds.

H_U_M_P · August 2003

Are you doing this with your planet server? or an older/past server.

I'm running a P4 2.53 with a gig DDR, win2000 server. I was running NS and a small TFC server and on map change it whent to 100% cpu (you are write on the .5 of leg). Just some people dont like it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

And ya the planet/matrix network is the shiZZZ!!!!

Allthough I have not tryed this with 2.0 out. Was on 1.04

GoPeDeRiCk · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grimm Spector @ Aug 5 2003, 03:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> branzone has kicked **** for us for quite awhile now, and you get SSH to your server, so you always have control.

<a href='http://www.branzone.com' target='_blank'>www.branzone.com</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
"We do not currently support Natural Selection." >_<

HKHeretic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([]--[] []_[] []V[] []0 @ Aug 6 2003, 04:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Are you doing this with your planet server? or an older/past server.

I'm running a P4 2.53 with a gig DDR, win2000 server. I was running NS and a small TFC server and on map change it whent to 100% cpu (you are write on the .5 of leg). Just some people dont like it???</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
This is with my server at ThePlanet, yes. I've been running 3-5 HLDS processes (counter-strike never uses more than 1% CPU fully loaded). Check out my top:

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>top - 14:20:36 up 129 days, 20:14, 1 user, load average: 0.29, 0.26, 0.26
Tasks: 82 total, 5 running, 77 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 15.6% user, 1.3% system, 0.0% nice, 83.1% idle
Mem: 1033472k total, 1001252k used, 32220k free, 233884k buffers
Swap: 530136k total, 27576k used, 502560k free, 468280k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ Command
25193 gameserv 15 0 92192 90m 5664 R 15.9 8.9 298:43.66 hlds
2538 gameserv 9 0 68964 65m 3240 R 0.3 6.5 1:22.01 hlds
13917 gameserv 9 0 68964 65m 3240 S 0.0 6.5 0:00.01 hlds
4590 gameserv 9 0 68964 65m 3240 S 0.0 6.5 0:00.00 hlds
26395 gameserv 9 0 52844 51m 4444 R 0.0 5.1 1:02.81 hlds
28784 apache 9 0 10028 8564 4676 S 0.0 0.8 0:03.23 apache2
22830 apache 9 0 9588 8108 4560 S 0.0 0.8 0:02.16 apache2
15212 apache 9 0 9428 7948 4480 S 0.0 0.8 0:01.75 apache2
16773 apache 9 0 9028 7508 4176 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.48 apache2
24732 apache 9 0 8972 7456 4116 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.54 apache2
28473 apache 9 0 8428 6912 4124 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.16 apache2
4254 apache 9 0 7456 5908 4060 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.09 apache2
14298 mysql 9 0 20968 3696 2204 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.43 mysqld
26206 mysql 8 0 20968 3696 2204 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.38 mysqld
20333 mysql 9 0 20968 3696 2204 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 mysqld</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

If you notice, the top HLDS process is NS2.0 on ns_lost with 19 players, the next one is a CS server with 10 players on it.

I run a bunch of other stuff on the server too obviously. MySQL4, Apache2, etc. We also run psychostats at low priority in the background periodically to generate stats across our servers, none of which ever lags our server. Of course, it's linux and not windows which makes a difference. This is a box I spec'd out and built myself, then actually went up to Dallas to colocate in their datacenter. At the time servermatrix.com didn't exist, and besides, I wanted to run my chosen linux distro: Gentoo. I run a highly modified 2.4.19 kernel that include modifications such as: low-latency system patch, realtime/preemptible system calls, and a O(1) scheduler with a revamped prioritizer...

Note, we haven't rebooted the server since it was put in the datacenter. This box is just tidding us over until we get our Dual Opteron server completed.

Jim_has_Skillz · August 2003

Herectic, where can I get that kernel patch!?!?! 15% cpu usage with 20 ppl! OMG I ususally get 100% cpu usage all the time with my ns linux server.

DFA_Haplo · August 2003

Heres a question for you people that rent or host. What can I expect to use bandwith wise in a month with a busy 22 man server? I have seen offers for like 500GB transfers a month. Is that enough? It seems every where I look they talk about transfers per month how do I calculate what I need?

H_U_M_P · August 2003

I'm running 24 man. I'm using just under 200GB a month. Server is full 20hours out of 24, if not allwase full.

HKHeretic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Aug 6 2003, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Herectic, where can I get that kernel patch!?!?! 15% cpu usage with 20 ppl! OMG I ususally get 100% cpu usage all the time with my ns linux server.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
It's not always 15%, it goes between 10-50% depending on the map and how much stuff is going on in the game. For instance, an hour long game on ns_hera is gonna use more like 50%, but for the most part we average about 25% when loaded. The kernel is a Gentoo kernel, you can manipulate kernel patches with the USE variable:

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>Linux version 2.4.20-gentoo-r2 (root@palace.clanhk.org) (gcc version 3.2.2) #1 Thu Mar 27 18:34:29 CST 2003</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Ooops, it's not 2.4.19, I was wrong.

HKHeretic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Aug 9 2003, 07:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Can you give me a link to this kernel? Thx.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
www.gentoo.org

Jim_has_Skillz · August 2003

Can you give me a link to this kernel? Thx.

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