Doublenozzles Or Hives?
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One Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
One Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
<div class="IPBDescription">Playing the 'react to marines'-game?</div> Ok, I've played quite a few games now, and the marines very often try to get the doublenozzle (if there is any) at the very beginning.
That's why I at the start of most alien games try to get most aliens to the doublenozzle before the marines get there. Drop a couple of oc's, rts and chamber of your choice. (Remember, OCs or chamber -before- rts. I've seen many lost battles because there were 5 marines vs. 1 skulk and 2 gorges and 2 rts.) DCs are my prime choice for now, but any chamber is viable in my opinion.
Many times, this is a very successfull move. The marines get there a minute or a half after we get there, and there is general slaughter. Then we lame up a little further, and we try to cap the rest of the resnodes on the map. The marines are unable to get and hold the doublenozzle, and are struggling to hold other resnodes because of starving. (Or, that's the idea.)
However, this move has its drawbacks. If the marines do NOT try to get the doublenozzle, but try to secure an empty hive instead (or rush an existing hive), they could be -very- successfull at doing it. We almost had two hives locked away from us yesterday because of this.
So, the dillemma is this: Do we risk the hives to get the extremely important doublenozzles? (They -are- important. Not only to hold, but also to KEEP IT OUT OF marine hands.) Or is there another way? Can we split into two groups -- one to a hive and then secure it, the other one to a doublenozzle? Will we be able to hold against a full squad of marines at any of these places?
An alternative could be to split up, then one or two skulks run to scout (and only scout!) to catch any marine movement. First priority would be to report what direction the marines are moving, then parasite some, and get back to doublenozzle or hive, depending on where they move. Then the entire alien team would react to the marine movement IF and only IF they go for 1) one of the two hives (start hive and the one hive where the other alien group is) or the doublenozzle.
Any thoughts?
That's why I at the start of most alien games try to get most aliens to the doublenozzle before the marines get there. Drop a couple of oc's, rts and chamber of your choice. (Remember, OCs or chamber -before- rts. I've seen many lost battles because there were 5 marines vs. 1 skulk and 2 gorges and 2 rts.) DCs are my prime choice for now, but any chamber is viable in my opinion.
Many times, this is a very successfull move. The marines get there a minute or a half after we get there, and there is general slaughter. Then we lame up a little further, and we try to cap the rest of the resnodes on the map. The marines are unable to get and hold the doublenozzle, and are struggling to hold other resnodes because of starving. (Or, that's the idea.)
However, this move has its drawbacks. If the marines do NOT try to get the doublenozzle, but try to secure an empty hive instead (or rush an existing hive), they could be -very- successfull at doing it. We almost had two hives locked away from us yesterday because of this.
So, the dillemma is this: Do we risk the hives to get the extremely important doublenozzles? (They -are- important. Not only to hold, but also to KEEP IT OUT OF marine hands.) Or is there another way? Can we split into two groups -- one to a hive and then secure it, the other one to a doublenozzle? Will we be able to hold against a full squad of marines at any of these places?
An alternative could be to split up, then one or two skulks run to scout (and only scout!) to catch any marine movement. First priority would be to report what direction the marines are moving, then parasite some, and get back to doublenozzle or hive, depending on where they move. Then the entire alien team would react to the marine movement IF and only IF they go for 1) one of the two hives (start hive and the one hive where the other alien group is) or the doublenozzle.
Any thoughts?
Comments
However an alien going directly to both hives to watch is a fine idea.
Btw dropping a sensory tower at a dual res is quite, quite evil.
Sure, you get xenocide as skulk.....but that only goes so far.
Money is #1 priority in NS 2.0.
You could have 50 hives for all I care. Without money you're still gonna die. No money to build fortifications with.
6v6 pub game on ns_veil
Aliens split into 2 groups.3 head for double nozzle,the other 3 head for the hive.
The group that goes to double nozzle : All 3 go gorge,2 put down RTs and the other Gorge lays down an OC.
The group at hive : 2 go Gorge,one caps RT and 1 goes lay down an OC.
Afterwards 1 at hive turns back to Skulk,and the others remain Gorge until the Hive is in progress,where 4 of the Gorges return to Skulk or evolve to lerks.
The strategy worked quite well,the double RT was well defended by a 3 man gorge gang and the hive was left undisturbed.Of course,there's the chances of ramboes bumping int your hive,and we dont know the exact figure ^^;
If u notice all double nodes can be BB quite easily from vents or high positions.
On mineshaft u have the walkway above u can BB down on to them from, on veil u can sit in the vent above the double nozzle, hera well make ur choice on which vent in holo, origin u can sit up on the side walls or in the room up top you get the idea just about all those points have a very usable BB position assuming u dont confront gls all too quickly.
- RD