Quote From Flayra's Ns 2.0 Faq.
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We've had a over 100 very astute and very skilled people that have been playing 2.0 for over three months. Please don't post ANY balance feedback for a couple weeks, as it's just too new for you guys to judge. Balance will not be flip-flopping quickly after release, like in 1.0x. Please post other feedback though.
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Ok I really like NS, or liked anyway, back in 1.04 when it took some skill and strategy to play. Over all its still a great concept but you see, the problem with your private beta testing is your "over 100very astute and very skilled people". Did you happen to forget that there are not alot of "very astute and very skilled people" in public games? This is what all the aliens being over powered huff is about, there are alot of changes that set 2.0 apart from 1.04, alot of them were bad changes in my opinion, but there were some good ones too, but you are still left with the exact same problem as before. Newbie marine teams vs Newbie alien teams = alien domination. The aboslute only way for marines to win now is with a very good team, its not hard to play aliens, OC's will fend off any newbie marine attack. Your "very astute and very skilled players" aren't the only ones who are playing 2.0, isn't that somethin? Did you forget, honostly, that newbies exist in great numbers in public games?
This has become even further, a clan game only, either you're an awesome player or you're not a player at all.
Nice job over looking this obvious problem.
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HURRAY FOR TURRET FARMING EVERY GAME WOO!
Edit: Oh and when I say it took skill in 1.04, I'm not refering to the jp/hmg rush, which I refused to take part in, I played most games without HMG's unless we really needed them like, against fades.
We've had a over 100 very astute and very skilled people that have been playing 2.0 for over three months. Please don't post ANY balance feedback for a couple weeks, as it's just too new for you guys to judge. Balance will not be flip-flopping quickly after release, like in 1.0x. Please post other feedback though.
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Ok I really like NS, or liked anyway, back in 1.04 when it took some skill and strategy to play. Over all its still a great concept but you see, the problem with your private beta testing is your "over 100very astute and very skilled people". Did you happen to forget that there are not alot of "very astute and very skilled people" in public games? This is what all the aliens being over powered huff is about, there are alot of changes that set 2.0 apart from 1.04, alot of them were bad changes in my opinion, but there were some good ones too, but you are still left with the exact same problem as before. Newbie marine teams vs Newbie alien teams = alien domination. The aboslute only way for marines to win now is with a very good team, its not hard to play aliens, OC's will fend off any newbie marine attack. Your "very astute and very skilled players" aren't the only ones who are playing 2.0, isn't that somethin? Did you forget, honostly, that newbies exist in great numbers in public games?
This has become even further, a clan game only, either you're an awesome player or you're not a player at all.
Nice job over looking this obvious problem.
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HURRAY FOR TURRET FARMING EVERY GAME WOO!
Edit: Oh and when I say it took skill in 1.04, I'm not refering to the jp/hmg rush, which I refused to take part in, I played most games without HMG's unless we really needed them like, against fades.
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Turrets: COST MONEY.
Turrets: EASY TO TAKE DOWN WITH A SINGLE ONOS, OR A FEW LERKS/FADES
STOP FRICKIN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT!
And the JP isn't nerfed enough to make a fricken difference! They just made sure people couldn't stay up forever! JEEZ!
And frankly, if both teams are nub, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WINS, JUST THAT THEY GET BETTER, AND HAVE FUN.
God, sometimes...
Well you see, I disagree with that idea. The shotgun rush is ultra powerful, ultra easy to use and basically murders aliens.
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The shotgun will massacre them as well. Try handing out some shotguns or getting them handed out. You will be amazed at what those things can do.
Quau
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Not anymore. You need a gorge with bile bomb, even an onos won't be able to do much to a tf.
Turrets: COST MONEY.
Turrets: EASY TO TAKE DOWN WITH A SINGLE ONOS, OR A FEW LERKS/FADES
STOP FRICKIN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT!
And the JP isn't nerfed enough to make a fricken difference! They just made sure people couldn't stay up forever! JEEZ!
And frankly, if both teams are nub, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WINS, JUST THAT THEY GET BETTER, AND HAVE FUN.
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LOL Money is endless in this game now, you can max tech and turret farm offa 2 RT's so long as you keep fighting the enemy, I've played over 40 2.0 games, I have seen the res flow. 10 res for a turret is nada, and sure a few onos's can drop turrets fast, but not with a couple shottie marines at base redeeming them every time. Fact is, they made turrets so strong that everyone wants them, or practically needs them unless you wanna leave most of your team at base all game, which gets you nowhere. Haven't seen a single game without turret farming (except the 1 game I commed, and as soon as I left 2 guys to guard base and sent an attack squad to a hive they countered with a few onos's, devoured the 2 guys at base and game over).
They're encouraging people to get turrets by making them this powerful.