The Shame! The Injustice! The Awful Lerk Control!
RavenFire
Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12504Members
Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12504Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Why weren't they improved, Flayra? Why?!</div> NS2.0 ROCKS! (Seriously, it does!)
Except for the Lerk. Specifically, the Lerk's 'wings'.
This picture --> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> is highly misleading. The Lerk, my friends, cannot fly.
It STILL smacks into walls, it STILL can't adequately manuver in the air, it STILL can't even manage to rise up to and enter a vent, it STILL 'glides' like a rock, and it STILL... can't... FLY!
(I had about a page worth of things I wanted to say written up before M$ Internet Exploder ate it all, so this will be short.)
Please, Flayra. Just a simple answer. Is the Lerk ever going to actually be able to *fly*, rather than just hop in mid-air and fall slowly?
Is this something that will soon be added, something that's on the back burner, or something you simply aren't going to do because you can't or don't want to?
Just a concise, simple answer. Please.
Except for the Lerk. Specifically, the Lerk's 'wings'.
This picture --> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> is highly misleading. The Lerk, my friends, cannot fly.
It STILL smacks into walls, it STILL can't adequately manuver in the air, it STILL can't even manage to rise up to and enter a vent, it STILL 'glides' like a rock, and it STILL... can't... FLY!
(I had about a page worth of things I wanted to say written up before M$ Internet Exploder ate it all, so this will be short.)
Please, Flayra. Just a simple answer. Is the Lerk ever going to actually be able to *fly*, rather than just hop in mid-air and fall slowly?
Is this something that will soon be added, something that's on the back burner, or something you simply aren't going to do because you can't or don't want to?
Just a concise, simple answer. Please.
Comments
BTW, how can't you fly it into vents? It's EXTREMELY easy to do.
The updated lerk flight model was one of the things that had to be left to wait if the v2.0 release date was going to be met, with how many other changes needed to be balanced, tested, and shaken. It isn't cut, but it doesn't have a date for inclusion either.. so it's back into limbo.
Please tell me you're joking.
1) Birds flap while flying to maintain a constant speed. Flapping is not, itself, what keeps them in the air. Bernoullian lift is.
2) Lift is generated by the air that is moving over their wing. When they flap to push air backwards (and themselves forwards), and then lock their wings and glide, the air moving over their wings is what keeps them in the air.
3) When birds glide, they cannot glide one direction and then point any direction they feel like while doing so. They can, however, steer around, climb, dive, bank, and generally manuver while gliding. For some reason, the Lerk can out-turn a merry-go-round while gliding in direction <i>x</i> (and only <i>x</i>). But it can't control which direction it glides. Yes, I believe I heard someone in the back say 'backwards'...
4) The lift efficiency of the Lerk's wings (how well they can glide) right now is horrible. And not even depicted very realistically. No creature actually capable of flying has wings that are as close to non-functional as the Lerk's currently are. If its wings were that inefficient, it would stall and start dropping after it slowed past a certain point, rather than simply decending at a constant, slow pace to the ground.
5) I can fly into vents. After I overshoot, fall past, overshoot, fall past, get shot, respawn, gestate, flop to the spot again, and finally get into the vent. The real trick is getting their twice before the map changes.
The lerk doesn't look to be good at flying anyway to me. There are just too many problems with its shape and wings that it wouldn't fly well.
first jump is too vertical imo.
But other than that I still could handle it the same way I did in 1.04....maybe its because of the FOV??Or is it I adapt to quickly?
The only thing I will miss is the long-lasting Umbra that was in 1.04,but all the better anyway,spores adn spikes <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
There should be your answer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Except for the Lerk. Specifically, the Lerk's 'wings'.
This picture --> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> is highly misleading. The Lerk, my friends, cannot fly.
It STILL smacks into walls, it STILL can't adequately manuver in the air, it STILL can't even manage to rise up to and enter a vent, it STILL 'glides' like a rock, and it STILL... can't... FLY!
(I had about a page worth of things I wanted to say written up before M$ Internet Exploder ate it all, so this will be short.)
Please, Flayra. Just a simple answer. Is the Lerk ever going to actually be able to *fly*, rather than just hop in mid-air and fall slowly?
Is this something that will soon be added, something that's on the back burner, or something you simply aren't going to do because you can't or don't want to?
Just a concise, simple answer. Please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's a bit better
It has definitely changed; I saw some ptesters on 1.04 in its final days who could not fly lerk at all anymore.
I did learn 1.04 lerk flying tho, it's not that hard, and obviously the ptesters once could