Gamespots "download manager"

TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
<div class="IPBDescription">When good sites go bad</div>I just learned about this today. Gamespot has a new "Download Manager", which is a small program that is supposed to speed up the download and allows you to pause (I believe). But, after reading around, I've learned that it does more than that.

The program installs secret spyware on your computer, it will scan your computer for anything you can think of, and then send all your information, including your real name (if its on the computer) back to gamesnet, and the information will then be used by Cnet, AND Zdnet, AND because they are all part of the same network. I've also heard that the manager lies about things to make you believe its going faster, as in showing a false download speed. I suggest you read <a href="" target="_blank">This Article/Forum</a> where others have also talked alot about it.


  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    When I first found out about spyware, I went and got ad-aware (not sure of the site) and kazaalite

    I'm wondering if it wouldn't be possible to get some kind of legal action so that all companies are required to tell exactly what is being installed and WHAT IT DOES before you install it. Just for kicks I went back through the agreement thingy before the actual install of regular Kazaa, and it mentioned NOTHING about programs that would monitor what sites you visited and what files you dowloaded off of kazaa, when the spyware it installs does exactly that.

    *edit* this just reminded me to run ad-aware again, and... guess what? I had 60+ cookies that were keeping track of my websites, and... not a single one originated from a pr0n site, almost all of them were from various shareware sites *cough* *cough*
  • XHydraliskXHydralisk Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 945Members
    Most of the products do already, but who actually reads the agreement before hitting "NEXT" on while installing?
  • doctopepadoctopepa Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 99Members
    internet will probably look like a horror/sci-fi movie in 10 years. johnny mnemonic or some thing similar. still i'm sitting here, rutting away in my chair, constantly electrified by spam and ads and this and that. Do i like it? has it gone so far? scary...

    I'll make a little drawing here so i'll feel better:
                .                            spam <<<
    <!--emo&:asrifle:--><img src="" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'><!--endemo-->  .*P AM < <        spam < < <     spam <<<<
                .   .
                 .            spam <<<
  • NovakoalaNovakoala Join Date: 2002-07-17 Member: 962Members, Constellation
    The only reason I noticed that I had some spyware was because the damn thing went wrong (Cydoor Ad Technologies or something) and used up all of my system resources.  When I ran ad-aware it turned out that I had 200 components. Gah!

    The EULA's? You know, Microsoft could actually own you. Betcha didn't read to the bottom of the agreements when you installed Office, did you? We'll never know.

    What I hate the most is the horrible pop-up windows. You can get a program to stop these (AdKill, I think) - after I installed that I felt a lot more relaxed.

    I usually clear all my cookies every fortnight (there's nothing in there that's that important, not to me anyway).

    We're all pawns in some big damn game for someone... (I may just be paranoid here, but...)
  • Morso_RodriguezMorso_Rodriguez Join Date: 2002-07-10 Member: 908Members
    Spyware sucks, and Gamespot sucks now that you have to sign up to look at just about anything on their site.
  • RamsesRamses Join Date: 2002-05-21 Member: 642Members
    Same like Monkey_830, i delete all cookies at browser-shutdown. Its painful to see how "good" sites turn into "bad" sites and to know that there will be still enough people that doesn't notice that. But I believe that there will be some regulation in the future, the net will NOT mutate into a spam-factory but well, yet a spam-factory it is:)
  • GencideGencide Join Date: 2002-05-30 Member: 698Members
    Lemme just say that I will no longer go to Gamespot now. *Deletes Gamespot favorite* Good thing I never got that manager.

    However, I still want to get the ad detector thingy and such, just to be sure nothing is going on in my puter. How do I find this thing?

    Isn't this a clear invasion of privacy though? Spyware is making me freakin scared of the internet now.
  • GencideGencide Join Date: 2002-05-30 Member: 698Members
    Wait, so Kazaa installs spyware on your computer? Are you sure, cause I use it and i'm kinda feeling like i'm being watched and #### now. Maybe i'm just paranoid, but can someone please tell me how to get ad-aware?
  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gen()cide+July 20 2002,02:32--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Gen()cide @ July 20 2002,02:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wait, so Kazaa installs spyware on your computer? Are you sure, cause I use it and i'm kinda feeling like i'm being watched and #### now. Maybe i'm just paranoid, but can someone please tell me how to get ad-aware?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, Kazaa does install spyware. get kazzalite at

    and adaware's program has the website listed in its window

    For popups I've have popup dummy ( beware of cookies thou) It's perfect, <span style='color:red'>** but you need to pay for it. And not talk about how you illegally use software and steal food from the families of hard-working programmers by not paying for their efforts **</span>

    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|July 20 2002,10:51-->
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    I use a program called Pop-up killer (I dont know the URL, try doing a search on google or something), which is freeware. The program is excellent. Every time you encounter a popup you can choose to add it to your blacklist. Your blacklist eventually builds up and up and up. You can also download a blacklist of all the known popups in the universe right in the program, which is added into your normal blacklist. You can also upload your blacklist to the server for others to use. You can also build up an exclusions list of popups you dont want it to kill. This program rocks.

    And on the topic of spyware, its all getting scary, and most of it should be illegal
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I don't really mind the ad's that much, as somebody has to pay for all the bandwidth, and it ain't gonna be me. The only site it's really annoying on is gamespy. They have the absolute worst ads ever.


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    Image stolen from <a href="" target="_blank">Penny Arcade</a>.

    To those who have seen Minority Report, I fear that it really is the future of advertisement. In about a decade, I'll bet scans your retinas before choosing between the Kellog's or the Nascar popup...
  • GencideGencide Join Date: 2002-05-30 Member: 698Members
    Ok, I got ad-aware and it found over 150 files and crap on my computer that I didnt even KNOW about. Cydoor, BDE or whatever it was called.

    I read the FAQ at and that is some pretty messed up stuff. Ad-aware is great, I just got rid of all that BS spyware.

    I got rid of Kazaa immediately, and got Kazaa lite. This spyware stuff is such a invasion of rights its not even funny.
  • CrematorCremator Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 27Members
    windows xp has a nice built-in resumer...  but i still use Getright!
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    Well, not to defend these companies, but let's face it, the banner ads that were supposed to buoy the internet failed, and failed miserably.  Companies want more specific demographic information now, and what better way to get it than watching what you look at online?  Yes, Kazaa does have spyware, and it IS, in fact, ennumerated in the EULA, but it only runs when Kazaa is running.  It doesn't run when you don't have Kazaa running, period.  Test it with Ad-aware...just looking for "Active Processes."  I used, and use, Ad-aware to clean out everything but Kazaa's "spyware."  I don't run it all the time, it's more stable straight from the company, has more features, and, oh, yeah, it's more honorable in my opinion to allow the people who wrote the software to make money off of it, rather than allow someone else to come along and just create some other piece of software that skips all that.  What happened to rewarding innovation?

    And as far as Gamespot taking down your information before letting you look around the site?  Gamespot has a lot of content, a lot of writing, a lot of organzing and editing, a lot of bandwith, and a lot of server space.  All that costs money.  And if the way they get that money from you is by getting demographic information, then so be it.  I don't go there, but I can live without it, too.  If enough people decide they feel the same way, then Gamespot will just have to find some new way to make their money.

    I went to the site, and surprise, surprise, I got hit with three pop-ups...advertising a piece of software that BLOCKS POP-UPS!  That's just stupid, people [people being the marketing genius behind that piece of work].  Apparently, even the folks are making a buck, too.

    Don't think of it so much as spying on you, as just giving you a chance to have your voice heard.  On a chart in a stuffy office somewhere.

    And DOOM brought up Minority Report.  This is off-topic, but I have to get this off my chest.  No one I've talked to agrees with me.  The big cliff hanger at the beginning was based on the premise that pre-meditated murders gave the Pre-crime division a few days warning, while murders committed in the heat of the moment only gave an hour or so warning.  Tom Cruise's character would commit a murder that would be in the heat of the moment, right?  So, then, WHY THE HELL DID THEY GET 36 HOURS WARNING?  Honestly!  And the ending!  They had a perfect ending, all lined up, and then it seemed that a stupid producer watched the movie, and said, "I don't understand what's going on," so then they include a 10-minute recap for the audience, complete with video footage.  When that was the last thing I saw before leaving the theater, I felt cheated and insulted.  Now, I just tell everyone, "Don't worry about paying too much attention to the movie, they recap it at the end for you.  They do all your thinking for you."  Such a good thing, thrown to the dogs...


    The point of quotations is that one can use another's words to be insulting.
    -- Amanda Cross
  • NovakoalaNovakoala Join Date: 2002-07-17 Member: 962Members, Constellation
    So, you're saying that becuase these companies aren't making enough money they have to intrude on our privacy? I'll decide if I want to make my voice heard. And if I do, I'll just answer one of the thousands of questionaires that are around the internet. I shouldn't have the spyware there without me knowing (and a very vague statement in the EULA isn't letting me know).

    No matter when it's active, spyware is still there. If I find any on my computer now if I can't disable the spyware, I just get rid of the entire program (Go!Zilla, who's spyware just wouldn't die without taking the rest Go!Zilla with it).

    I'm not going to talk about Miority Report, sine with one thing and another I haven't been able to see it yet.

    What happened to the free world, anyway? We should have the ability not to take part in these spyware programs - but most of the time there's no option not to install them: either we have them or we can't use the software. Would you do this to people?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    You do have a choice. Don't use their software, and then no spyware will get on your system. Nobody is putting a gun to your head forcing you to install it...
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    I would recommend making this topic a sticky
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