<!--QuoteBegin--coil+Jul 15 2003, 09:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Jul 15 2003, 09:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Vehicles can't move realistically in the HL engine... Multi-passenger vehicles suffer from lag online... there's the issue of clipping/hulls... the list is long and boring, frankly. HL doesn't like vehicles. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> *cough*Jeepathon2k2sucks*cough*
If NS was on HL2, then, <i>maybe</i>. it's all up the mapper really; if the mapper wants to put in a tram car they can, and if they dont, they dont.
If we based what could be done in Half-Life on Jeepathon2k2 then we wouldn't have anything. Jeepathon2k2's vehicles suck because the map sucks. The tank in the Counter-Strike beta sucked? Well do you see anything sophisticated in Counter-Strike? No, because Counter-Strike is really a simplistic everyman's game. The most complex aspect of Counter-Strike is the buy menu. If you put some work into the idea it might turn out better than we believe is possible. If Flayra started out with the idea "only do what has been done" then we would have Counter-Strike in space.
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<!--QuoteBegin--Delta|Cpt.Terran+Jul 15 2003, 05:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delta|Cpt.Terran @ Jul 15 2003, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude...in ns_bast, you know the tram access tunnel? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea really I wouldnt mind stuff like that at all. Or have certani areas of a map connected by a cable lift or something like that. Static linear stuff is fine with me.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Jul 15 2003, 08:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Jul 15 2003, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If we based what could be done in Half-Life on Jeepathon2k2 then we wouldn't have anything. Jeepathon2k2's vehicles suck because the map sucks. The tank in the Counter-Strike beta sucked? Well do you see anything sophisticated in Counter-Strike? No, because Counter-Strike is really a simplistic everyman's game. The most complex aspect of Counter-Strike is the buy menu. If you put some work into the idea it might turn out better than we believe is possible. If Flayra started out with the idea "only do what has been done" then we would have Counter-Strike in space. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> haha just like the cs map starwars2 where you can fly the ties ahah i love Team Killing with my tie on that map,
servers banned from : 5 out of 8 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why it isnt that funny to anyone else besides me and my friends that ramming a poor CT into a wall with a tie wing isnt funny, i would think CS players would be childish and laugh at anything like a pron spray
<!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Jul 15 2003, 11:56 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Jul 15 2003, 11:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> HL vehicles suck in general, and the biggest thing you'd fit through any of the corridors is a moped. Can you picture a HA marine riding a moped? Even that would have to have some amazing talent for climbing ladders, like sticky tires or something.
If we have some official outdoor maps (doubtful, or at least a long way off), then there might be some merit. Outdoor fighting doesn't really fit in though. How could marines <i>not</i> win? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> HAHAHA CLIMBING MOPED *IMAGE IN HEAD*
there are vehicles in NS... elevators :o. Obviously a jeep or tank wouldn't be viable in NS, but I bet something that uses a track or waterway could be implemented into a map and still have acceptable gameplay using the hl engine.
One problem to keep in mind however in NS unlike other mods is that you can clog such things with buildings and such. Itd be funny watching an egg drive a vehicle too :o.
<!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Jul 15 2003, 08:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jul 15 2003, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> haha just like the cs map starwars2 where you can fly the ties ahah i love Team Killing with my tie on that map,
servers banned from : 5 out of 8 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why it isnt that funny to anyone else besides me and my friends that ramming a poor CT into a wall with a tie wing isnt funny, i would think CS players would be childish and laugh at anything like a pron spray <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not. And if you are in agreement with me, I'm not exactly sure over what.
OK besides the whole Vehicals dont work in the HL1 engine bit, think about game play. So, Your fighting on a space station and you fire a buch of 13.5mm rounds aginst the 2 inch plat that makes up the hull, do big deal right. Now you fire a 125mm cannon or maby a 1cm rail gun at said wall. Not only do you blow a big hole but yout probly going to destory the enitre base or statalite or whatever.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Jul 15 2003, 11:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Jul 15 2003, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Jul 15 2003, 08:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jul 15 2003, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> haha just like the cs map starwars2 where you can fly the ties ahah i love Team Killing with my tie on that map,
servers banned from : 5 out of 8 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why it isnt that funny to anyone else besides me and my friends that ramming a poor CT into a wall with a tie wing isnt funny, i would think CS players would be childish and laugh at anything like a pron spray <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not. And if you are in agreement with me, I'm not exactly sure over what. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i agree with you, except im pointing out there is a map in space for CS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Maian+Jul 16 2003, 12:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maian @ Jul 16 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not talking about gameplay at all here, so don't quote the FAQ. I realize that vehicles are pretty much impractical in the tight corridors of most NS maps. I'm just wondering why vehicles are "impossible" to put in NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> They aren't impossible to put in. But, as you've stated, there is no point in putting them in. Simple, isn't it? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm sure they'll have vehicles in the HL2 mod for NS.. see as how the maps will be so large they'll probly have to. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I wanna she that APC from Aliens in ns! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Umm, it's actually quite easy to make 'single man' vehicles.
Taking cue from another mod (I think it was a Warhammer 40K one), you can actually 'get in' the vehicle.
Rather than it becoming a vehicle which looks cumbersome and awkward, it simply changes the player model into the said vehicle.
Possibly you could have a small hover bike (onos size), with 2 grenade launchers and JP thrusting ability (would be stupidily overpowered, but you get the idea).
It *IS* possible if you think laterally. The standard HL vehicles lag like crap when the server gets a bit choppy (200 ping+), I really wouldn't say it was worth it. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Taking cue from another mod (I think it was a Warhammer 40K one), you can actually 'get in' the vehicle.
Rather than it becoming a vehicle which looks cumbersome and awkward, it simply changes the player model into the said vehicle.
Possibly you could have a small hover bike (onos size), with 2 grenade launchers and JP thrusting ability (would be stupidily overpowered, but you get the idea).
It *IS* possible if you think laterally. The standard HL vehicles lag like crap when the server gets a bit choppy (200 ping+), I really wouldn't say it was worth it. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There is no way to make a marine vehicle balanced. Not without creating new alien evolutions even MORE powerful than the OHNOES.
Really, we're just going over the same ideas. Allow me to sum it all up.
You want a vehicle. By popular opinion the idea is good but it's impossible to make a good vehicle using the HL engine. End of story.
<!--QuoteBegin--lochness+Jul 15 2003, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lochness @ Jul 15 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yea why the hell hasn't someone made a joke map with vehicles in it yet? I would like to see a map like jeepathon (vehicles in cs are great, driving them off ramps and raming into each other). So why not make a map just like that, but for ns? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> F4F Cookie made a nice map with a train in, ns_overlord. its still not completly finished i.e. a few bugs i think but you can download it <a href='http://www.brywright.co.uk/downloads/index.php?action=file&id=40' target='_blank'>here</a>
Just make sure you weld the weldables in the right order <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Jul 15 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jul 15 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> even though i dont agree with having veicles in NS i DO in fact would like to see a viecle jsut parked and not usable jsut for decoration <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> like in dod_caen u see a tank in axis spawn 1/2 in a tunnel why not have one of those in a map like ns_eclipse where you see the BACK of the APC so it looks like the marnes came out of it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I wouldn't see this as a problem at all. It could add to the atmosphere to suggest that the marines just came crashing through a wall and started setting up a base. There would be no issues with the gameplay because the vehicle would be scenery.
All you have to do now is convince a mapper to put one in.
<!--QuoteBegin--wizard@psu+Jul 16 2003, 08:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Jul 16 2003, 08:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Jul 15 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jul 15 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> even though i dont agree with having veicles in NS i DO in fact would like to see a viecle jsut parked and not usable jsut for decoration <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> like in dod_caen u see a tank in axis spawn 1/2 in a tunnel why not have one of those in a map like ns_eclipse where you see the BACK of the APC so it looks like the marnes came out of it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I wouldn't see this as a problem at all. It could add to the atmosphere to suggest that the marines just came crashing through a wall and started setting up a base. There would be no issues with the gameplay because the vehicle would be scenery.
All you have to do now is convince a mapper to put one in. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> At some point i'll play around and see if i can make something look convincing.
No promises however <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just kinda need to find a reason for an APC to be in space.
Just kinda need to find a reason for an APC to be in space. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Did they need a reason to put a gatling cannon on the vehicle in Armageddon? You know that made perfect sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Isn't ns_hera based on a planet/moon? Otherwise I wouldn't think it would be too much of a stretch to make a ground base on an otherwise uninhabitable planet that got infested with Kharaa.
In other news: Tonight I start on a joke NS map. Jeeps APCs and madcats for all!!!
Just kinda need to find a reason for an APC to be in space. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Did they need a reason to put a gatling cannon on the vehicle in Armageddon? You know that made perfect sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Isn't ns_hera based on a planet/moon? Otherwise I wouldn't think it would be too much of a stretch to make a ground base on an otherwise uninhabitable planet that got infested with Kharaa.
In other news: Tonight I start on a joke NS map. Jeeps APCs and madcats for all!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well the map i'm working on now, ns_deus (link to progress in my sig), is based on a large terraforming / repopulation space craft. I don't see the need for an armoured vehicle. But i'll find a reason. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I've heard alien rocks can be pretty dangerous these days.
Ok everyone is saying what the marines would do with it... but what if an alien got in it... Seeing a fade drive around the base... though it might be funny it could still be creapy.
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If NS was on HL2, then, <i>maybe</i>. it's all up the mapper really; if the mapper wants to put in a tram car they can, and if they dont, they dont.
Yea really I wouldnt mind stuff like that at all. Or have certani areas of a map connected by a cable lift or something like that. Static linear stuff is fine with me.
haha just like the cs map starwars2 where you can fly the ties ahah i love Team Killing with my tie on that map,
servers banned from : 5 out of 8 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why it isnt that funny to anyone else besides me and my friends that ramming a poor CT into a wall with a tie wing isnt funny, i would think CS players would be childish and laugh at anything like a pron spray
If we have some official outdoor maps (doubtful, or at least a long way off), then there might be some merit. Outdoor fighting doesn't really fit in though. How could marines <i>not</i> win? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
HAHAHA CLIMBING MOPED *IMAGE IN HEAD*
One problem to keep in mind however in NS unlike other mods is that you can clog such things with buildings and such. Itd be funny watching an egg drive a vehicle too :o.
servers banned from : 5 out of 8 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why it isnt that funny to anyone else besides me and my friends that ramming a poor CT into a wall with a tie wing isnt funny, i would think CS players would be childish and laugh at anything like a pron spray <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not. And if you are in agreement with me, I'm not exactly sure over what.
So, Your fighting on a space station and you fire a buch of 13.5mm rounds aginst the 2 inch plat that makes up the hull, do big deal right. Now you fire a 125mm cannon or maby a 1cm rail gun at said wall. Not only do you blow a big hole but yout probly going to destory the enitre base or statalite or whatever.
servers banned from : 5 out of 8 <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why it isnt that funny to anyone else besides me and my friends that ramming a poor CT into a wall with a tie wing isnt funny, i would think CS players would be childish and laugh at anything like a pron spray <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not. And if you are in agreement with me, I'm not exactly sure over what. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i agree with you, except im pointing out there is a map in space for CS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
They aren't impossible to put in. But, as you've stated, there is no point in putting them in. Simple, isn't it? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Taking cue from another mod (I think it was a Warhammer 40K one), you can actually 'get in' the vehicle.
Rather than it becoming a vehicle which looks cumbersome and awkward, it simply changes the player model into the said vehicle.
Possibly you could have a small hover bike (onos size), with 2 grenade launchers and JP thrusting ability (would be stupidily overpowered, but you get the idea).
It *IS* possible if you think laterally. The standard HL vehicles lag like crap when the server gets a bit choppy (200 ping+), I really wouldn't say it was worth it. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Taking cue from another mod (I think it was a Warhammer 40K one), you can actually 'get in' the vehicle.
Rather than it becoming a vehicle which looks cumbersome and awkward, it simply changes the player model into the said vehicle.
Possibly you could have a small hover bike (onos size), with 2 grenade launchers and JP thrusting ability (would be stupidily overpowered, but you get the idea).
It *IS* possible if you think laterally. The standard HL vehicles lag like crap when the server gets a bit choppy (200 ping+), I really wouldn't say it was worth it. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is no way to make a marine vehicle balanced. Not without creating new alien evolutions even MORE powerful than the OHNOES.
Really, we're just going over the same ideas. Allow me to sum it all up.
You want a vehicle. By popular opinion the idea is good but it's impossible to make a good vehicle using the HL engine. End of story.
F4F Cookie made a nice map with a train in, ns_overlord. its still not completly finished i.e. a few bugs i think but you can download it <a href='http://www.brywright.co.uk/downloads/index.php?action=file&id=40' target='_blank'>here</a>
Just make sure you weld the weldables in the right order <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I have always wanted a train in ns maybe something like a cargo transport or something like that
I wouldn't see this as a problem at all. It could add to the atmosphere to suggest that the marines just came crashing through a wall and started setting up a base. There would be no issues with the gameplay because the vehicle would be scenery.
All you have to do now is convince a mapper to put one in.
I wouldn't see this as a problem at all. It could add to the atmosphere to suggest that the marines just came crashing through a wall and started setting up a base. There would be no issues with the gameplay because the vehicle would be scenery.
All you have to do now is convince a mapper to put one in. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
At some point i'll play around and see if i can make something look convincing.
No promises however <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just kinda need to find a reason for an APC to be in space.
Just kinda need to find a reason for an APC to be in space. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did they need a reason to put a gatling cannon on the vehicle in Armageddon? You know that made perfect sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Isn't ns_hera based on a planet/moon? Otherwise I wouldn't think it would be too much of a stretch to make a ground base on an otherwise uninhabitable planet that got infested with Kharaa.
In other news:
Tonight I start on a joke NS map. Jeeps APCs and madcats for all!!!
Just kinda need to find a reason for an APC to be in space. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did they need a reason to put a gatling cannon on the vehicle in Armageddon? You know that made perfect sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Isn't ns_hera based on a planet/moon? Otherwise I wouldn't think it would be too much of a stretch to make a ground base on an otherwise uninhabitable planet that got infested with Kharaa.
In other news:
Tonight I start on a joke NS map. Jeeps APCs and madcats for all!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well the map i'm working on now, ns_deus (link to progress in my sig), is based on a large terraforming / repopulation space craft. I don't see the need for an armoured vehicle. But i'll find a reason. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I've heard alien rocks can be pretty dangerous these days.