The Most Amazing Matrix Theory

JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">This could be it...</div> <a href='http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38092' target='_blank'>Click, highlight to read</a>

WOW.
I really think this could be it. It makes so much sense :-)
Its very well thought out, supported by tons of data.
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jammer+Jul 3 2003, 02:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jammer @ Jul 3 2003, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38092' target='_blank'>Click, highlight to read</a>

    WOW.
    I really think this could be it. It makes so much sense :-)
    Its very well thought out, supported by tons of data. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have my own theory on the matrix.

    It's a <b>film</b>.

    *cough* I thank you, you've been wonderful, goodnight.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    That is incredibly interesting. I shall wait for November with great anticipation to see if it's true.
  • JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
    ... Yes.
    And as a film, its plot is incredibly complex. Is it so hard for people to enjoy dissecting it?
    Geez, lighten up.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    Wow I think he's right, I saw the animatrix a while ago and didn't notice that little part he was talking about, it makes perfect sense too.

    It seals up all the plot holes, hmm if it's true "all the haters will be sorry come november" is about as right as you can get. heh.

    We shall see.


    (PS this explains Keanu's acting (: )
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Wow. An awesome theory. However, should it be correct, <b>I will regret reading it</b>. That's an experience I'd rather get for the first time at the movie itself. :-\
  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6146Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    It's really funny when people think they know what the next movie is going to reveal, and talk about their theory as a "spoiler". The concept that all the humans outside the matrix are actually robots is so poorly thought out it's stupid. He completely overlooks the fact that an EMP went off at the end of the first Matrix, and <i>nothing but the sentinels get hurt</i>. Also, the EMP that Neo supposedly generates being a "directional" one, funny. If you want some real insight on the matrix, go <a href='http://matrix.ugo.com/zionswitchboard/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=9896' target='_blank'>here</a>. The first post isn't the biggie, but the whole discussion thread.

    I also saw a person that was so convinced that the matrix within a matrix theory was true, he went off starting topics like, "now that we know MWAM is true, what do you think the audience's reaction will be?" I'm keeping track of all these people so I'm really going to enjoy force feeding most of them some delicious humble pie when the movie comes out.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--RandomEngy+Jul 3 2003, 01:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RandomEngy @ Jul 3 2003, 01:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He completely overlooks the fact that an EMP went off at the end of the first Matrix, and <i>nothing but the sentinels get hurt</i>. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, no he doesn't. I agree with you on the directional bit, though, that's just... yeah. Interesting.

    However, that does not mean that his theory wouldn't have the potential for a very interesting movie, and the end reaction does sound like something I'd expect from the brothers W the way they've been handling things. Sure a hell of a lot better than any of the Matrix-in-Matrix theories.
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    Actually, Engy, he does address that issue. GG not reading the whole thing. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--KungFuSquirrel+Jul 3 2003, 03:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Jul 3 2003, 03:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--RandomEngy+Jul 3 2003, 01:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RandomEngy @ Jul 3 2003, 01:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He completely overlooks the fact that an EMP went off at the end of the first Matrix, and <i>nothing but the sentinels get hurt</i>. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, no he doesn't. I agree with you on the directional bit, though, that's just... yeah. Interesting.

    However, that does not mean that his theory wouldn't have the potential for a very interesting movie, and the end reaction does sound like something I'd expect from the brothers W the way they've been handling things. Sure a hell of a lot better than any of the Matrix-in-Matrix theories. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Umm do you even remember what happened at the end of the first matrix? Neo was stuck in the matrix while sentinels were attacking the ship, he get's shot, ressurects, get's out of the matrix just in time for morpheus to hit the EMP....it FADES OUT after that. And then we see Neo in the phonebooth scene.

    We never at any point in the film see the rebels immedatly after an EMP blast, every time they use the EMP they completely shut down their ship, they could very easily knock themselves out and then aweken hours later thinking nothing happened. They don't exactly have clocks. The sentinels get destroyed because they are simplistic machines the rebels (if you believe this theory) are highly advanced AI. EMP blasts might just temporily turn them off in a sort of black out from too much booze way.

    anyhow we shall see come November.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    He was spamming, nothing there.


    Nah j/k..

    It all seems to make sense now. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Neo being put downby the EMP along with cain.
    The red colour and such...


    I believe we have a answer here.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    Oh and what I think Neo and company are going to do once they find out they are all AI?


    They are going to get as many weapons as possible, get their **** to the surface and take it to all the humans in a destruction fest that will make the lobby scene look like an episode of the teletubbies.

    This will not only be an awesome ending but it will make up for the lack of insanely graphic violence in reloaded.


    Here's a suggestion just in case one of the W. brothers is reading and has a couple of minutes to fill in the movie.

    Scene [Neo & Morephus chase the heads of some evil Corperation down a highway]

    The scene starts out with Morephus & Neo following a black sedan down a highway, Morephus is driving while Neo takes potshots at the car from the passenger window, after a minute or so he hops in the back seat and grabs dual MP5's with extended clips and uneccesary folding stocks, Neo then busts the back window and climbs onto the roof the car and tells morpheus to speed up. After getting close enough Neo hops off the roof onto the black sedan he then proceeds to unload on the guys in the back seat, then shoots through the roof killing the passager, kicks a hole in the roof, throws a grenade in and then hops off the car and rolls into a ditch.

    more to come...
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--KungFuSquirrel+Jul 3 2003, 07:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Jul 3 2003, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow. An awesome theory. However, should it be correct, <b>I will regret reading it</b>. That's an experience I'd rather get for the first time at the movie itself. :-\ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I totally agree. It would have been a much bigger mindjob to see it in the movie theatre.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jul 3 2003, 08:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 3 2003, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh and what I think Neo and company are going to do once they find out they are all AI?


    They are going to get as many weapons as possible, get their **** to the surface and take it to all the humans in a destruction fest that will make the lobby scene look like an episode of the teletubbies.

    This will not only be an awesome ending but it will make up for the lack of insanely graphic violence in reloaded.


    Here's a suggestion just in case one of the W. brothers is reading and has a couple of minutes to fill in the movie.

    Scene [Neo & Morephus chase the heads of some evil Corperation down a highway]

    The scene starts out with Morephus & Neo following a black sedan down a highway, Morephus is driving while Neo takes potshots at the car from the passenger window, after a minute or so he hops in the back seat and grabs dual MP5's with extended clips and uneccesary folding stocks, Neo then busts the back window and climbs onto the roof the car and tells morpheus to speed up. After getting close enough Neo hops off the roof onto the black sedan he then proceeds to unload on the guys in the back seat, then shoots through the roof killing the passager, kicks a hole in the roof, throws a grenade in and then hops off the car and rolls into a ditch.

    more to come... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Neo can fly...
  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6146Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jul 3 2003, 08:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 3 2003, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Umm do you even remember what happened at the end of the first matrix? Neo was stuck in the matrix while sentinels were attacking the ship, he get's shot, ressurects, get's out of the matrix just in time for morpheus to hit the EMP....it FADES OUT after that. And then we see Neo in the phonebooth scene.

    We never at any point in the film see the rebels immedatly after an EMP blast, every time they use the EMP they completely shut down their ship, they could very easily knock themselves out and then aweken hours later thinking nothing happened. They don't exactly have clocks. The sentinels get destroyed because they are simplistic machines the rebels (if you believe this theory) are highly advanced AI. EMP blasts might just temporily turn them off in a sort of black out from too much booze way.

    anyhow we shall see come November. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I read through the whole thing, I guess I missed that explaination.

    Anyway, that's still really streching it. Why would there be any reason that the human machines would wake up and the sentinels wouldn't? Also, wouldn't they think it just a bit weird that they all fall over unconcious right after the EMP is triggered? None dead except for Tank (maybe), all just knocked out, weird. And don't say they didn't have memory right before they went "unconcious"... Trinity obviously remembers saving Neo with the kiss, that happened shortly before the EMP went off. Also, it doesn't even talk about the EMP getting set off early for the ambush. They said they "were dead in the water" not "our entire crew went into comas".

    It's mostly his know-it-all attitude that grates me though.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jul 3 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jul 3 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jul 3 2003, 08:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 3 2003, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh and what I think Neo and company are going to do once they find out they are all AI?


    They are going to get as many weapons as possible, get their **** to the surface and take it to all the humans in a destruction fest that will make the lobby scene look like an episode of the teletubbies.

    This will not only be an awesome ending but it will make up for the lack of insanely graphic violence in reloaded.


    Here's a suggestion just in case one of the W. brothers is reading and has a couple of minutes to fill in the movie.

    Scene [Neo & Morephus chase the heads of some evil Corperation down a highway]

    The scene starts out with Morephus & Neo following a black sedan down a highway, Morephus is driving while Neo takes potshots at the car from the passenger window, after a minute or so he hops in the back seat and grabs dual MP5's with extended clips and uneccesary folding stocks, Neo then busts the back window and climbs onto the roof the car and tells morpheus to speed up. After getting close enough Neo hops off the roof onto the black sedan he then proceeds to unload on the guys in the back seat, then shoots through the roof killing the passager, kicks a hole in the roof, throws a grenade in and then hops off the car and rolls into a ditch.

    more to come... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Neo can fly... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He can fly in the matrix, this will be taking place in the real world where they are killing their human oppresors.

    Scene [Neo and Trinity storm a military outpsost]

    Neo and Trinity crash through the gates of a military outpost in a Humvee a random rebel is operating the mounted machine gun wasting MP's as they try to stop them. The Humvee parks in the middle of the compound, Trinity and Neo hop out and go in different directions, the other guy provides covering fire with the machine gun. Neo runs toward a holding bin for weapons and is interecepted by two MPs on the way Neo (I'm assuming he still has all the kung-fu stuff hardcoded into his brain) kicks the first MPs arm right before he fires sending the bullets through the other MPs faces, Neo then grabs the MP's m-16, spins it around and caves in the guys face with the butt. Neo rumages through the storage bin and pulls out a grenade launcher, he runs by each of the barracks lobbing grenades into them. Trinity is busy on the other side of the compound, she got her hands on a fully auto shotgun and suprises 6 MP's who are guarding a tank, she unloads 13 shots in 4 seconds tearing 5 of them to pieces and then uses the shotgun as a bat to break the last ones kneecaps. Trinity then hijacks the tank and picks up Neo and they ride off, the random rebel was killed during the conflict. They also leave a heaping amount of C4 in the base which they detonate after leaving.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Uhh, Doc, first of all, all of Revolutions is already filmed, they are just finishing the C.G..


    Second, Every theory can make sense but Occam's razor cuts that guys explanation to ribbons.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    Oh gee its filmed already? and here I thought the W. Brothers were going to come to the NS forums and put my ideas into the movie.

    Occam's Razor is flimsy to say the least, but I wont get into that. It also refers to unexplained events, in which case a movie directed by people doesn't apply, since they can make it as complicated as they wish and it doesn't have to obey any natural law. Plus the theory presented isn't that complicated (Matrix is by no means a simple film) and it makes good use of the background given in the Animatrix.


    PS ok I will get into it, Occam's Razor: People thought the world was flat, their explination they could look at the horizion and see an edge. The truth, the Earth is an oblong sphereical shape spinning around at incredible speeds turning on an axis rotating around the Sun. Which explination is simpler?

    And by the Razor the most likely explination would be a matrix within a matrix, or even more along the Razors line it was all a dream. Which doesn't make for very good movie making.

    Scene [Trinity escapes]

    Trinity is on a motorcyle riding away from several military personal in half-tracks. They are riding through the deseart heading towards a cliff. There are about 8 half-tracks behind her all firing off MGs, she pushes the throttle and jumps off the bike sending it hurtling off the cliff while she flies through the air. She dissapears behind the cliff wall and the half-tracks stop, the military guys look at each other all confused. A few seconds later an apache flys up from the behind the cliff (it's piloted by Neo and Trinity is sitting safely behind the 70 MM cannon) they make the first pass over the half-tracks and tear 3 of them to pieces, the others scatter in different directions. The rest of the scene is them chasing down and blowing up the vehicles.
  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    This is a little link for fans of the Matrix or people who just plain don't like it.
    <a href='http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/film/matrix50.html' target='_blank'>PWOT 50 Reasons the Matrix Sucks</a>

    Personally I liked the first movie and about three scenes out of the good eighty in the second. I'll name em, when Neo fought the Chinese guy (no 3d animation thank god), the one where the source tells all (the little tv monitor with Neo yelling "**** you!" was priceless), and lastly I liked Agent Smith duplicating himself into that guy (you know who).
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    You should change that link to 50 things haters say and wish were true.
  • JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    That 50 reasons thing is a joke :-)
    EDIT
    I'm dreaming of a white... cast?

    Two actors were abruptly cut from the sequel cast before production ended, both female minorities. Coincidence?

    Aaliyah and Gloria Foster were unceremonially dropped after shooting some scenes for the sequel. What's wrong, guys? They didn't test well with the predominantly white Matrix audiences?

    Neither actress could be reached for comment.

    //HAHA! They're dead. Thats why its funny. And some people don't realize it and think its serious.
    /EDIT

    I think it'll be just as exciting if this is right, because you'll be watching the movie "Is it? Is it? It is! Holy crap!"
  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    cool theory, also fits with the 3rd movie title "revelations"

    cant wait to see what happens
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    far too much intellectual posturing goes on around the matrix imho.
    its like its trapped between early teens action/fighting and early twenties philosophical nonsense.
    guess id better wait for the third one and the 'actual story' to emerge before i pass judgement tho.

    oh and the guy making all the weird observations in that theory piece saw way too many conections in places, i dont buy it...
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    I don't buy it. Sometimes people think they have all the answers just by asking all the questions. While these are very interesting questions, there are no answers. There's no concrete proof. It's... possible, but not probable - just because this explanation can be made to fit the evidence doesn't make it the correct one.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kenichi+Jul 3 2003, 08:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kenichi @ Jul 3 2003, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> cool theory, also fits with the 3rd movie title "revelations"

    cant wait to see what happens <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's Revolutions *slap*


    By the way I still stand by my theory that Neo is human and that he is still the true messiah and that the prophecy is still in effect. We will find out that he is still the One and he will save humanity so there.
  • Chopper_Dave1Chopper_Dave1 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2353Members
    Wow. I am truly impressed with this guy. This theory sounds like just the kind of mindf*ck the Wachowski brothers would give to their audiences. It's plausible, simple (well, simpler than others), lends well to philospohy (like the Plato's Cave scenario he mentions), and it just plain works.

    I myself had this sort of very, very small intuition that the rebels were androids. Very small, and probably a result of the subtle hints in the movies. That, and I saw some commercials for an anime on Cartoon Network called Android Kikaider - an android with feelings, hmmmm, maybe...

    But I never could have fleshed it out like this guy did. To me, the theory seemed just as irrational as the matrix within a matrix. But this...well, as Keanu Reeves has said, "Woah." I can only hope I can be as intuitive as this guy someday...
  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's an interesting and good theory. I had the feeling that something was up as soon as I heard "human as a battery." Personally I thought Neo was a prisoner in a high tech prison using a specially tailored VR to keep him busy and enterained being "The One" while his life sentence passes. As I haven't seen the Animatrix, I didn't think about the machine idea. His egotism is a bit annoying (espically in his rant in the middle). It won't be too much of a shock. Myself and others have lost their affection for the main characters a while back (though we hope for they revive the Keymaker from the Recycle Bin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->). My sister's theory is that at the end it'll be a guy whose computer just crashed.

    As for W brothers, don't know if they'll do this. I think they'll do the matrix in a matrix deal and/or Kojima out on us (nah D00My <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->).
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    I just read that whole thing, it seems to make more sense then a lot of those other matrix theories.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    I actually just talked to someone who has the animatrix on DvD and he says that the thing about the nuclear attack and the EMP is bogus. The nuclear attack actually failed and the humans were forced to blacken the sky. The machines knew the humans would use nukes and were prepared for them.

    Also he said the part about the boy seeing agents was a metaphor (I haven't seen all of the animatrix)

    So two of his main points are blown. And after re-reading his theory that the agents are previous ones more and more of it is starting to seem bogus.

    He just wrote so confidently that it was easy to believe.
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    I can easily believe that the Merovingian was a One, actually. Perhaps the first One. Like when Persephone says to Neo "he was once like you." And also when he himself says to Neo "your predecessors had more respect" - why would they show him respect? There are many possibilities, of course, but if he was the first One, well, that makes all kinds of sense.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--[p4]Samwise+Jul 4 2003, 12:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([p4]Samwise @ Jul 4 2003, 12:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can easily believe that the Merovingian was a One, actually. Perhaps the first One. Like when Persephone says to Neo "he was once like you." And also when he himself says to Neo "your predecessors had more respect" - why would they show him respect? There are many possibilities, of course, but if he was the first One, well, that makes all kinds of sense. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the fuk? The predecessors remark was to Neo thinking he could handle all the goons on his own. The Frenchie is a program, he isn't a One, ones don't exist in the matrix period, if anything they exist in Zion, so if anyone is a one it's a council member. The frenchie is a programer and a trafficer of information, kind of an FTP in the matrix that is all.
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