Your Ickle Pigsticker...

ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Use it, it has a purpose.</div> Right, I'm quite quite tired of watching marines try desperately to reload their LMG/Pistol whilst dodging a rabid skulk, simply because they're terrified of seeing those little jaws by their name.

Rule #1. Killing the enemy to avoid dying is <b>not</b> the same as killing the enemy so he becomes dead.

Pack away that gun, and pull the old 'sticker. It has an obscene range, and will chop up a non cara skulk in no time whatsoever, especially if you've already offloaded your miguided rounds into it already.

You know how many knife kills I got on Nano last night over two rounds through this principle?

Fourteen. That was a hella load of annoyed skulks.

Rule#2. Don't sit still.

This falls back to Rule #1. A lot of people, for some reason when using the knife, proceed to crouch and just turn on the spot, like some sort of demented cleaver wielding turtle. Get <i>active</i>! Make after him like a Kangaroo on crack. There's certain movements that suggest what state he's in. Most skulks run about, biting wildly. If you see him back off to try & line up where you are, odds are he's low on health too, and sizing up his chances if he rushes in again. You can often kill these just by jumping <b>AT</b> them at this point, because it means they're only one stab from death.

Run about, knife away, jump, just don't make that skulks life any easier. Same goes for spikey Lerks. These don't seem to realise what they're dealing with, until you've got 2 slashes in already, which only puts a Lerk about 1-2 away from death anyway, so effectively, you can pretend <b>you're</b> the skulk in this situation.

Herein ends my rant on the knife. Go, make like Psycho or something. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

<b>Disclaimer : Shockwave holds no responsibility if you go & get yourself killed. It's not my fault that you went & listened to what I told you, was it? </b>

Comments

  • KazyrasKazyras Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9722Members
    When I'm comming, I yell at my marines for knifing instead of reloading. It gets them killed way more often than trying to reload usually does. Bite outranges the knife by a long shot. If the skulk is smart and realizes the marine is knifing, he'll just keep his distance, tap mouse1 a single time and that'll be the end of the fool.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Meh, I kill more than I get killed this way.

    But then again...

    **Obligatory response from every other forum goer***

    I obviously am a nublet/I obviously play on n00bomfgdiethxbye servers/I use AOL/I'm an LPB/I obviously did this to make skulks win more/Skopian that hovars/MonsE made me do it.
  • RoobubbaRoobubba Who you gonna call? Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11930Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    no shock you just suck <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Damn. Missed an answer.

    Roob, MSN me goddamnit <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Jun 27 2003, 03:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jun 27 2003, 03:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know how many knife kills I got on Nano last night over two rounds through this principle?

    Fourteen. That was a hella load of annoyed skulks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's true. I heard a few grumbling Shockwave's name last night.

    I Still think this is the reason so many wanted to use Movement chambers first instead of Defense. They wanted Celerity to stay away from that knife! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
    edited June 2003
    The knife is F-U-N! I often just fire a quick burst with my LMG, then yank out my pointy stick and stabby the little doggy to death. I get so many knife kills in one game just because I do this. Not only does it save ammo.....sometimes, but it's just SO FUN. There was even this one game where my entire team went practically knife only and ran over the entire enemy team by running around and slashing them. 10 marines who can aim, all running around with a knife is kinda scary.
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Jun 27 2003, 03:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jun 27 2003, 03:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> /I use AOL/
    /Skopian that hovars/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    These made ma laugh out loud for ages!
  • JokisJokis Join Date: 2003-06-28 Member: 17758Members
    I've actually never used a knife but I should now knowing how good it is. I've seen a lot of people get ridiculous amounts of kills with the knife; I thought they were cheating somewhat, I guess not!
  • Lumberjack_WannabeLumberjack_Wannabe Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14404Members, Constellation
    Knifing is fun, especially knifing a fade. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Misfit1Misfit1 Join Date: 2003-06-26 Member: 17708Members
    MonsE made me do it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    if you are a marine and you pull your knife, and the skulk is smart, the skulk will retreat for a second and wait for you to come to him. That's your chance. Usually when you're fighting a skulk, you switch from LMG to pistol before your LMG rounds are done. Pull it out and waste him <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Or, even better, empty your LMG, and then pull your knife... then when he sits back, take out the pistol you didn't use and kill him <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    edited July 2003
    Bleh, unless you're facing a horde of skulks, 50 LMG rounds and 10 pistols rounds should be enough to put them down.

    I almost never pull my knife.

    What I do like it for is knifing DC's though. Suicide runs on DC's in the alien hive are pretty productive if you empty your whole LMG, your whole pistol, and then knife them. Especially against single DC's with no healing.

    <i>Edit</i>: Wow that sounded dumb before.
  • IceIce Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15008Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Duff-Man+Jun 30 2003, 09:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Jun 30 2003, 09:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What I do like it for is knifing DC's though. Suicide runs on DC's in the alien hive are pretty productive if you empty your whole LMG, your whole pistol, and then knife them. Especially against single DC's with no healing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And annoying for the aliens <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I do that too. And rt's are a good target.
  • CaimanCaiman Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16900Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There's certain movements that suggest what state he's in. Most skulks run about, biting wildly. If you see him back off to try & line up where you are, odds are he's low on health too, and sizing up his chances if he rushes in again. You can often kill these just by jumping AT them at this point, because it means they're only one stab from death.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You dont know how many times i end up with 28 health as skulk im like o sh** and get killed. Use your knife - remember they have no muzzle flash, unlike skulk bites, they do 30 damage, and you can swing it forever (unlike skulks).

    Also, if you stand still for an hour an a half, the guy will balance the knife on his hand. Then he will clean his nails. Then he will clean his nails again. And so forth.

    Knives in NS arent merely ornamental(sp?) like crowbars in TFC.
  • PegePege Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10088Members
    I've only had bad experiences from knife vs. skulks. I hardly ever hit with it (ratio must be something like 1/30). Skulks just laugh and back away a bit so they don't get confused and calmly walk towards me when I hop around and bite. If I reload, I have at least a tiny chance, but if I knife, I only do it cause I want to die quickly and get more ammo/health/away from parasite when I spawn.
  • MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
    There IS a little known client variable in NS as well as CS that can greatly improve your efficiency with the knife. It's called hud_fastswitch 1. Obviously, no one I play with has ever heard of it, because every time I knife them, the usual BS/hacker whine line comes out. Then, when I try to say I'm using hud_fastswitch, they don't even listen anymore. Is hud_fastswitch 1 too exploit-like for people to use, or what?
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    I've been using fastswitch for 3+ years, heh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    great tool, the only downside is you don't get to see the HUD art, lol.
  • Lt_HendricksonLt_Hendrickson Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14761Members
    U know what i hate about knife. Its **** cheap and swings 25 times one second.
  • FaT_CaMFaT_CaM Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15394Members
    surley an overstatement there, its about twice per second, and if youre getting hit you should back up a bit or something...
  • CaimanCaiman Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16900Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've been using fastswitch for 3+ years, heh
    great tool, the only downside is you don't get to see the HUD art, lol. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    No see you use fastswitch but if you want to see the art bind "next weapon" to something out of the way even though you will never use it. If you are using wasd, bind it to backslash or something.
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