Lerk Bite In 1.1

nsscrewedovermycomp · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">put it back</div> My favourite thing about 1.04 is the lerk and his bite. Its devastating and yet very enjoying to use. I've talked to many players beta testing 1.1 and they want lerk bite back in, they dont like the new additions to the lerk. Well, even though i didnt beta test, i know that i wont enjoy spikes and spores as much as i do enjoy bite. I am looking forward to many new great additions in the next version, except for this one.

As far as i know each person i talked to wants lerk bite to be included in version 1.1.

So please, put it back <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> ... and we can all have fun! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'>

- Max | n.op

Mr_Radical_Ed · June 2003

I dunno.. I'd love to see the bite put back in, but I believe Flayra likes the lerk the way it is. It took me awhile to like the new lerk. I think anyone would like the lerk since it comes equip with poison spores as its 1st hive ability <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> Its just a different style of playing now thats all

Doggycakes · June 2003

I do believe that the lerk should have bite, although spores is really cool. Spores makes the lerk an even more support unit and I use lerk greatly as an up front unit with the bite helping me all the way. I can't bear to see the lerk without bite. Look at the ler with bite.. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'> now look at him without bite... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'> omg it's so pathetic. How can you live like this?!?!?! HOWWWWW!!! The lerk is sad without bite so please keep it like it is.

Xzilen · June 2003

heh nice first post <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> welcome to the forums.

Kuroneko · June 2003

I think it'll be fine without bite, the main part of the lerk was it's ranged ability anyway...the only reason people used bite was A) no turrets left to kill... or B) Stupid marines.

dio · June 2003

omg taking bite out is like takin your balls off. you NEED YOUR BALLS, i mean this is just stupid..... plz keep bitw oh and www.savethebite.com

FOR HEAVENS SAKE KEEP THE BITE pwn= <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> | <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

flayra we love you

#no-op

nsscrewedovermycomp · June 2003

people use bite more frequently then spikes at a high competition level. its bite is 75 damage, i believe the help says 50, but its its not updated.

goodfornothing · June 2003

ya, the lerk owns more now than it did before. With spores they are the perfect long distance and backup type of unit. Even tho they can't bite the spikes can be very affective with a combination of spores. I think the bite might make them too powerful for 1.1.

Forlorn · June 2003

Don't beat the dead horse.

We had a poll on this, and lerk bite was tossed out by the majority.

It's not coming back, or at least any time soon.

Doggycakes · June 2003

I greatly beg to differ about that last reply. I used lerk to kill JPers in midair and to fly into roomes with rines and bite them and run or finish them. I take offense (in a nerdy way not really) to you saying they are only good for turrets and stupid rines. Lerks are hella scarey if it's not a noob using them.

nsscrewedovermycomp · June 2003

make another poll. we will see how badly lerk bite will dominate.

snozzle · June 2003

you all fail to realize that a lerk is supposed to be a SUPPORT "character" not a rambo like the figher classes. get used to spikes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'>

ReDDean · June 2003

Yep 1.1 isn’t the same without lerk bite...Anyone who relied on lerk bite in 1.04 is going to feel suicidal when they see the 1.1 lerk (maybe not suicidal, but very, very angry). I know I was, and I still am.

I heard they were making changes to the lerk but I NEVER ever thought they would do something like this. What I was thinking was maybe adding banking features, or a way to dive. Guess I was wrong <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'> Oh and the vets posting about how the new lerk is ownage...the only reason you guys like the new lerk is because YOU get more kills with the 1.1 lerk then you did with the 1.04 lerk. I thought Flayra’s goal was to try and make the lerk a support class and not a killing class. Guess he failed in that category <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> I really (probably more then anyone in the NS community) would like to see lerk bite back.

Wyzcrak · June 2003

some guy on a server I was playing on a couple of weeks ago was talking about this site:

<a href='http://www.savethebite.com' target='_blank'>http://www.savethebite.com</a>

haha makes me laugh. If you want the bite back so bad, you should check out that site.

Be well.
Wyzcrak

Wyzcrak · June 2003

haha just saw that dio already posted that savethebite.com site. sorry.

Wyzcrak

Matchhead · June 2003

hmm, it would make sense if the lerk did have a bite... i mean they do have some teeth... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> yeah, i dunno about puttin bite back in. the lerk seems alright without it... i guess maybe people have to get used to it =/

Forlorn · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nsscrewedovermycomp @ Jun 25 2003, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> make another poll. we will see how badly lerk bite will dominate.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
It would probably lose even worse, more and more of the community is reserfacing from their hibernation of these forums as they read the beta forums.

How can you assume it will dominate just because you hear that "The lerk sucks without his bite" from a couple of outspoken people?

Get real dude.

Typhon · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([ReD]Dean @ Jun 25 2003, 10:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I thought Flayra’s goal was to try and make the lerk a support class and not a killing class. Guess he failed in that  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You're right, that was his goal. Thats why he removed bite. Now the lerk HAS to sit in back and <b>support</b> rather than be able to swoop in and kill someone.

ReDDean · June 2003

Typhon: Thats where you are wrong. They made the lerk easy to get kills with little or no practise. I haven't seen anyone use it for support. They are using it for kills. It's really annoying becuase there are so many ppl who just could'nt use bite in 1.04 and many of them are vets. So naturally they are gonna like the new lerk becuase it now has spores. Which means more kills for them! They don't care about supporting the team...all they care about is getting to the top of the team with frags.

edit: It's really a shame that these ppl are gonna nerf such a perfect class in order for a few kills. I say take the time to learn bite...in the end you'll find it way more fun.

Macguyvok · June 2003

I'll admit, I saw this thread, and I groaned. Why the hell are we still discussing this? I'll finnally throw my thoughts in, and HOPE this gets laid to rest.

1.1 Lerk:

Long Range Support Class. All of the lerk's abilities are usable from a distance. This means that now the lerk can do what it's name implys, 'lerk' in dark places, and in rafters, doing 'driveby's', or if you prefere, "Diveby's" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>. It doesn't need bite, because it can spike a marine the ENTINRE time it's diving on him..... and be even more effective. I heard people complain b/c it took skill to master bite, and they think that in 1.1 they're removing the skill from it. Now, imagine trying to master spikes? Before you wimp out, give it a try, and see just how nasty they can be! I've seen it, and it's scary. Master spikes, or, if u're a bite-a-holic, master the skulk! It's a nasty lil bugger, in 1.1 so I hear.

Either way, Bite is by-by, deal with it.

Typhon · June 2003

Are lerks really that easy to get kills with? I mean marines can just waltz right out of the spore cloud without too much damage, and the slow moving HA (originally the most vulnerable to spore) are now immune to it.

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([ReD]Dean @ Jun 25 2003, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...So naturally they are gonna like the new lerk becuase it now has spores...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Excuse me. Lerk ALWAYS had spores. I fail to see the point in you're comments. Oh, and Guess what, all aliens, including gorges are "frag hunters" in one sense or another, b/c that's what aliens do. they didn't nerf lerk to acomidate anyone but Flay. He felt Lerk was ment for these abilities, not bite. Sorry, but he's in charge, and he says it's not gunna change, so why complain?

ReDDean · June 2003

Ok GL with ur drivebys....u'll have to do 10 of em b4 u kill 1 marine. But u'll be lucky if ur still alive on the second driveby. As for lerking in dark places and rafters...well all did that in 1.04 but u had the choice to engage the marines however u wanted. Bite is not by-by and I wont deal with it. I'm so sick of ppl saying this.

ReDDean · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Macguyvok @ Jun 25 2003, 09:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([ReD]Dean @ Jun 25 2003, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...So naturally they are gonna like the new lerk becuase it now has spores... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Excuse me. Lerk ALWAYS had spores. I fail to see the point in you're comments. Oh, and Guess what, all aliens, including gorges are "frag hunters" in one sense or another, b/c that's what aliens do. they didn't nerf lerk to acomidate anyone but Flay. He felt Lerk was ment for these abilities, not bite. Sorry, but he's in charge, and he says it's not gunna change, so why complain? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Ok incase u didn't know since they removed bite, spikes have moved into the first slot, and spores into the second. You now have SPIKES/SPORES at 1-hive. In 1.04 we rarely used spores cause we usually finished the game b4 we got 3 hives. And whats the deal with you and thinking it won't change. Do you know flayra in real life. Did he tell you those things personally or are you just pulling this out of thin air. I havn't heard that he said bite would not come back, I actully heard the opposite.

bigb · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>some guy on a server I was playing on a couple of weeks ago was talking about this site:

<a href='http://www.savethebite.com' target='_blank'>http://www.savethebite.com</a>

haha makes me laugh. If you want the bite back so bad, you should check out that site.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I downloaded the spray just to see what it was...... I have seen this spray all over the place.

nsscrewedovermycomp · June 2003

cs noobs that play ns cant use lerk bite, thats why they voted to put some spores in instead. the ns team should make an option if u bite or cs sh.it in there, so you have a choice.

ReDDean · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nsscrewedovermycomp @ Jun 25 2003, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> cs noobs that play ns cant use lerk bite, thats why they voted to put some spores in instead. the ns team should make an option if u bite or cs sh.it in there, so you have a choice.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Agreed. I suggested something like this b4.

nsscrewedovermycomp · June 2003

as dean told me in pm... there should be 2 kinds of lerk u can evolve to:

1.04 lerk

1.1 cs terrorost lerk

^ this = no complaining

dr_d · June 2003

1.1 has lerk and gorge as support classes get over it that's the way it is.

learn to help the team and not just think about kill-frag-destroy-fest that you want for yourself.

Elite_Guard · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 25 2003, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 1.1 has lerk and gorge as support classes get over it that's the way it is.

learn to help the team and not just think about kill-frag-destroy-fest that you want for yourself.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
its a game and having fun is more important than helping the team. support is boring.

nsscrewedovermycomp · June 2003

thats why there has to be 2 choices, for supports, and for attackers. if u dont know this (u probably dont) the lerk is 2x tougher to kill then the skulk. so he makes better offense. the lerk supporting him who chose to support instead of attack, can spore and stuff. so everyone is happy.

Lerk Bite In 1.1

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