More Than 3 Hives?

Parasite · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">what exactly happens?</div> Ok I did a search for it, but didnt get a straight answer...aliens cann actually occupy more than 3 hives correct?

the only way I could see over 3 hives being usefull, is if aliens can only use 3 of them. It would just make for more of a battle.

So far Ive heard of admins spamming hives all over the map, wich doesnt actually answer my question, also I hear of a map with 5 hives...but 2 are randomly locked at round start...neither really answers my question.

Ollj · June 2003

You can place as many hives in your map as you want. Its just a matter of sense, ballancing and entity count.

facts:
2 hives needed for fade.
3 hives needed for onos.
A build hive always activates the spawn points near it inside a "hive radius" you can set somewere.
The first hive places a RT on the nearest Resnode at game start if theres one.
On the smallest resolution only 4-5 hive pictures are visible. on the largest its ~10.

Amped1 · June 2003

I've always wanted to see a 4 hive map. Does the 4th hive actually show up on the aliens' HUD?

Wittman · June 2003

I heard that if you get 12 hives, you can build ultralisks and gaurdians and, wait, nevermind. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Willow_Pax · June 2003

More then 3 hives? World explodes, computer explodes, sister explodes, World explodes (again), moon explodes, brother explodes, rashid the friendly pakistani explodes, captian underpants explodes.

DEADscott · June 2003

We have a drop map with 5 hives. They all are in the same room. No other benifits except the marines need to kill all 5.

Kuroneko · June 2003

a map with 4 hives, the 3 normal ones and one in MS...then 'rines won't relocate <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Ollj · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kuroneko @ Jun 19 2003, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> a map with 4 hives, the 3 normal ones and one in MS...then 'rines won't relocate <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
and games can end really quicly.

azumawarrior · June 2003

BlackMesa has 4 hives they all show up in the hud. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Sepiroth · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wittman @ Jun 19 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I heard that if you get 12 hives, you can build ultralisks and gaurdians and, wait, nevermind. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
no, YOU GET A SCORPIAN THAT HOVARS WITHOUT FLAPPING!!!!!!@#!!!111@2!!!!111one.

acer_r1 · June 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> the only helpful things that more hives do is, 1) adds anotehr respawn area 2) adds more to your max res and 3) acts as a back up incase another one dies

Zel · June 2003

i doubt it actually affects max res, have you tried that?

acer_r1 · June 2003

yep

LordLestat · June 2003

anyway more then 3 hives would be good in some maps.. since marines usually techrush with jp/hmg and kill aliens in some seconds... so more then 3 hives would be a good way to balance to teams

(im not saying in all maps just some that are unbalanced)

Lt_Gravity · June 2003

there is a "map" with actually 6 (!!!) hives out there, it is ns_layout by func_wallace. since the map is very simple (even more than siege XD) its nort what I call a map but wide corridors give somewhat fun for packer. all the hives show up in the hud but its really kinda confusing. I would like more then 3 hives but in every location 2 hives either that you can choose one (the other will be locked so the game isnt the same every time) or you can build both to prevent "last hive laming" so alien have two hives or none <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
after "playtest" ns_layout it was obvious that you cant win the match when aliens have three hives on this map no matter what. the ha is too slow, webs and paralizes makes it impossible for packers to reach a hive. shure you can rush the starthive at the beginning... but...

Ollj · June 2003

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Lt_Gravity · June 2003

and btw ollj:
how does this nuclear bomb works? is it a plugin? where can I get it from?

Elite_Guard · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Jun 20 2003, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> there is a "map" with actually 6 (!!!) hives out there, it is ns_layout by func_wallace. since the map is very simple (even more than siege XD) its nort what I call a map but wide corridors give somewhat fun for packer. all the hives show up in the hud but its really kinda confusing. I would like more then 3 hives but in every location 2 hives either that you can choose one (the other will be locked so the game isnt the same every time) or you can build both to prevent "last hive laming" so alien have two hives or none <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
after "playtest" ns_layout it was obvious that you cant win the match when aliens have three hives on this map no matter what. the ha is too slow, webs and paralizes makes it impossible for packers to reach a hive. shure you can rush the starthive at the beginning... but...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
When i downloaded ns_layout from NSWorld it was in a .map format?! Why did he release it uncompiled?

Jezpuh · June 2003

Maybe hes a newb.

Lt_Gravity · June 2003

he shurely is a noob when you look at the map. cant imagine that he worked long at it. just compile the map, whats the prob? then you can add some light aswell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Shadowics · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Jun 20 2003, 01:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> how does this nuclear bomb works? is it a plugin? where can I get it from?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
The nuclear bomb was a part of NS but it got dumped, maybe overpowered or something. But the code for it's still in there. Turn sv_cheats on and enter "deathmessage nuke" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Amped1 · June 2003

How did he kill everyone else with the nuke?

Shadowics · June 2003

Cheatcode : "killall"

Lt_Gravity · June 2003

its nort about killing people.
once I saw this eefect on a map, waves of fire running over the ground, rumble and screams. this was definetely the nuke we all want to see <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> Im asking because it was pretty funny. the marine team stood still. after half a minute:
"What... what was that?"

XD

Icecream · June 2003

I think am with more than 3 hives is destroy the balance between Marine und Alien, on a map with more than 3 hives the alien win all the time

Lt_Gravity · June 2003

imagine: you have 2 teams that are equal in the style of playing. the aliens will mostly win the games if the marines dont jp-rush the hives (which of cause is the most laming playingstyle I know)
because aliens in the later game are too strong compared to the marines. it doesnt matter if there are more than 3 hives. I guess you havent seen ns_layout yet...

Elite_Guard · June 2003

The nuke is a feature on voogru servers. The admin sets a timer for the match to end, and once the timer goes off the nuke will explode. It just turns everyones screens white and kills them, then kills all buildings on the map. When the nuke is set, there will be an actual nuke on the ground wherever the admin places it.

Lt_Gravity · June 2003

nuke kills all players and buildings <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> *fear in the eyes*
and whats the sense? "hurry, timer is set!"?
and the end of the game? draw?

Elite_Guard · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Jun 22 2003, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> nuke kills all players and buildings <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> *fear in the eyes*
and whats the sense? "hurry, timer is set!"?
and the end of the game? draw?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
If the marines or aliens are prolonging the game when they could jut end it the admin can just say "You have 10 minutes then it is a draw" and set a nuke. Or for a clan match a 45 minute nuke.

More Than 3 Hives?

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