The Situation About Roob's Server
Roobubba
Who you gonna call? Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11930Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">To ease the confusion</div> At present, the server will be going down mid July. This is because I can't find an affordable broadband connection to keep running the server from my own home (when we move from this phat uni connection), and I also can't find a surrogate home for the server within the university.
As a result, this leaves me with 4 options:
1) Find people willing to contribute money for me to get a bigger ADSL/SDSL connection (ie 512Kbps upload or faster) so that I can run the server.
2) Find people willing to contribute to renting a server.
3) Find a package that I could afford that would mean I can continue running the server with no extra funding (if anyone works for an ISP and wants to negotiate with me, I'm quite flexible about this one!!)
4) Server goes down, never to return <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Clearly any of 1-3 would be OK, and 4 would not.
1 and 3 have their advantages, in that I can control exactly what's on the box, and don't have to pay any more for renting the hardware (I have all the hardware I need for now).
2 has the advantage of multiple people having access and responsibilty though that's no advantage over 1 or 3...)
4 clearly has no advantages (apart from freeing up a computer for me for when visitors come round and can't bring their own...)
If you wish to comment on this, you can use this thread, or PM/email/icq/msn me (below) and we can discuss the situation.
I really don't want to lose this server, and especially with CoFR going down, I'd love to keep this alive for the UK NS community.
Roo
As a result, this leaves me with 4 options:
1) Find people willing to contribute money for me to get a bigger ADSL/SDSL connection (ie 512Kbps upload or faster) so that I can run the server.
2) Find people willing to contribute to renting a server.
3) Find a package that I could afford that would mean I can continue running the server with no extra funding (if anyone works for an ISP and wants to negotiate with me, I'm quite flexible about this one!!)
4) Server goes down, never to return <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Clearly any of 1-3 would be OK, and 4 would not.
1 and 3 have their advantages, in that I can control exactly what's on the box, and don't have to pay any more for renting the hardware (I have all the hardware I need for now).
2 has the advantage of multiple people having access and responsibilty though that's no advantage over 1 or 3...)
4 clearly has no advantages (apart from freeing up a computer for me for when visitors come round and can't bring their own...)
If you wish to comment on this, you can use this thread, or PM/email/icq/msn me (below) and we can discuss the situation.
I really don't want to lose this server, and especially with CoFR going down, I'd love to keep this alive for the UK NS community.
Roo
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good luck to find a good solution, I hope you'll manage to keep the server alive...
So you'll be in the same sticky stuff that I am <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Servers/bandwidth are too damn expensive in the UK.
Im on a single P4 2.4Ghz with 512MB ram. So far I been pretty happy with them.
So far the best offer I've found seems to be 1mbit dedicated connection, unmetered with a 2.4ghz P4 for £100 (approx). Probably plus VAT.
It seems pretty good but I've yet to check all the details and I suspect it will be UK only accessible rather than true internet :/
If enough people do it, with labour being "the peoples party" they have to listen... right?
TBH the only way to get it to work would be to boycot the internet, unless they give use faster for cheaper, now i dont think i could do that :S
Boycotting the internet would be about as effective as the 'boycott the pumps' campaign that got spammed round the internet a little while back. Feel free to try it though - well see you when you give up <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
An alternative would be to subsidise my own internet connection, enabling me to get a faster upstream... Clearly then the server would be part subsidised by those regulars who contribute. I'll look into this.
Roo
btw - I haven't tested it yet but if some one could just click the button and donate a few hundred quid to make sure it works that would be great <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://www.muppetking.com' target='_blank'>http://www.muppetking.com</a>
oops! I bumped the post! Sorry.
I'm more than willing to contribute a fixed amount to get the thing up and running elsewhere and contribute towards monthly running costs for as long as the machine is as well admined and populated as it has been. I'd be happy to pay about £20-£25 a month towards hosting the thing (possibly more if I can get a on when I want <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->)
gimme an idea of how much you need for the setup of a new box somewhere on a dedicated connection (i think SDSL will just be slooow)
Roo
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You need a sniffer... I know ethereal but it logs the traffic from every program... But it has filters.
availiable at sourceforge.
Also a similar product called DUMeter is very good, it's almost the same exact thing as nicmeter but is costs money. It's found here <a href='http://www.dumeter.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.dumeter.com/</a>
Both of these programs have daily, weekly, monthly logging of bandwidth usage on Windows Machines.
Thanks for all your help guys, still a long way to go but looks like we might be able to keep the server up (with some more monthly donations!)
Roob
or what about talking to the OUcomputergamingsociety? <a href='http://users.ox.ac.uk/~gaming/' target='_blank'>OUCGS</a> about them hosting it, they already have at least one server sat somewhere (called lucy i think), if u gave them the box u use currently, they could probably plug it in and make sure that its ok.
just a thought or two <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm clutching at straws now <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I will ask my college, but I don't want to ask until it's a bit closer the time (if they decide I'm not allowed to run the server once I announce it to them, they could easily stop me from doing so, then we lose the server NOW :/)
Thanks Swampy
Roo
So far the best offer I've found seems to be 1mbit dedicated connection, unmetered with a 2.4ghz P4 for £100 (approx). Probably plus VAT.
It seems pretty good but I've yet to check all the details and I suspect it will be UK only accessible rather than true internet :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
url?
This means an outside option. I am trying my hardest to find a deal that will work, but things are looking tight for money. We still need donors!
Thanks again to all those who have already supported us, believe me we are doing everything we can here.
Roo
If we get some more donations we have a solution though for a 1st class server, cmon people "Save Roobs"
If we can do this with 16 slots on that spec machine, imagine what we can do with a really decent system (which is what your money will be going to).
Check sig for server details - go and try it out!
Roo