1.1 Beta For Constellation Members?

ashw · June 2003

I've been a constellation member for a few months now and I still haven't seen any benefit (apart from maybe food in the ns team's stomach while they code).

any chance of the beta being opened up to constellation members as a bit of a repayment for the support?

:]

Insane · June 2003

It's more about donating to the NS team to help the development than paying for a reward of some sort.

That said, there are the in-game icons that you get for being a member.

Jabba_The_Hunt · June 2003

Yeah you shouldn't expect anything in return.

Though if Flayra wants to make a public beta I suppose using Constellation members is a nice idea.

Cowswin · June 2003

Member = Icon in 1.1

Other than that you should consider it more of donation than anything else. Because that's what it is, you aren't buying a subscription or the game itself.

Forlorn · June 2003

If he gave everyone in constellation beta, it would probably just slow things down. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

However, the constellation members will be thanked... I imagine, when v1.1 comes out, and Flay will probably say something like:

"...and thank you to all of the constellation members, this couldn't have been possible without you."

So that can be your reward! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

ZiGGY · June 2003

maybe some genuine cleveland hair <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Agkelos · June 2003

<b>Reward:</b>

1. Money.
2. Phat Lewt
3. Sexual Favor
4. Food
5. +10 Sword of Doom
6. Plush Gorge

I DONT SEE ANY MENTIONS AS A REWARD THERE FORLORN!! DO YOU SEE IT? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Forlorn · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Agkelos @ Jun 19 2003, 08:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <b>Reward:</b>

1. Money.
2. Phat Lewt
3. Sexual Favor
4. Food
5. +10 Sword of Doom
6. Plush Gorge

I DONT SEE ANY MENTIONS AS A REWARD THERE FORLORN!! DO YOU SEE IT? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
ROFL!

I pick number 3! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

MonsieurEvil · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ashw @ Jun 19 2003, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I've been a constellation member for a few months now and I still haven't seen any benefit (apart from maybe food in the ns team's stomach while they code).

any chance of the beta being opened up to constellation members as a bit of a repayment for the support?

:]  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
The benefit is: without the constellation donations, NS 1.1 would have been cancelled and NS would not have been continued after 1.0. As simple as that. So the biggest reward from your donation is that you will get to play the next version of NS.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

meatball · June 2003

to be able to play ns 1.1 will be a great reward but mabye we could put a Plush Gorge in the shop....

abtm · June 2003

Yes, your reward is that you get to play the game when/if it should ever be finished. But since they're running out of letters in the alphabet to assign to test builds, I'm sure it'll only be another 2-3 months

KEm1KaL1 · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 19 2003, 07:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So the biggest reward from your donation is that you will get to play the next version of NS.
 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
... eventually <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Can't wait, seems like everyone in the forum donated, hope it's helping you guys!

Nemesis_Zero · June 2003

Hate to break it to you, but contrary to what many big publishers seem to think by adding public betas to their PR routines, beta testing is not all fun. Beta builds are by definition less balanced, less polished, and more buggy than a regular release. Beta testing means helping to remedy that. In other words: Beta testing == work.

KEm1KaL1 · June 2003

Does not need to be "in other words" nem, I've tested (professionally and unprofessionally) many things and for all you doubters out there, beta testing <b>is</b> work.

X_Stickman · June 2003

Yeah, but the fun is seeing an unbalanced pile of code evolve into a brilliantly made piece of software.

I remember the constellation members getting "added benefits at a later date" or something like that, i can't be bothered to look <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

**EDIT**
ok, i'm mad. just spelt constellation with a g "constellationg"

SentrySteve · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 19 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ashw @ Jun 19 2003, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I've been a constellation member for a few months now and I still haven't seen any benefit (apart from maybe food in the ns team's stomach while they code).

any chance of the beta being opened up to constellation members as a bit of a repayment for the support?

:] </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The benefit is: without the constellation donations, NS 1.1 would have been cancelled and NS would not have been continued after 1.0. As simple as that. So the biggest reward from your donation is that you will get to play the next version of NS.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
We need to get "Tell-it-like-it-is" MonsE his own show, like Dr. Phil, but less on the homosexual side...

Stoneburg · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 19 2003, 08:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hate to break it to you, but contrary to what many big publishers seem to think by adding public betas to their PR routines, beta testing is not all fun. Beta builds are by definition less balanced, less polished, and more buggy than a regular release. Beta testing means helping to remedy that. In other words: Beta testing == work.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
FINALLY!!!

I have been waiting for someone to mention this quite some time. My first reaction when the beta tests started was:

"Uh oh.. better stay away from that, sounds like work. I'll keep playing this less buggy version for *fun* until they're all done with 1.1"

Can't believe people do it for free, or that they *want* to do it. Weirdos.

Ps. Ahh... I was wondering why that "icon" thing never worked, I thought I would get it right away (some time ago).

Nemesis_Zero · June 2003

No, the constellation database system has a client-side component. But by the first time you start up 1.1, you should see your new icon.

Incitatus · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 19 2003, 01:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hate to break it to you, but contrary to what many big publishers seem to think by adding public betas to their PR routines, beta testing is not all fun. Beta builds are by definition less balanced, less polished, and more buggy than a regular release. Beta testing means helping to remedy that. In other words: Beta testing == work.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Well that's my definition of fun <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>

Simply playing a perfect game gets boring fast.

TickTock · June 2003

Just because it's work doesn't mean it isn't fun. But yeah, it's a donation. You didn't donate so you could get special treatment, you donated because you loved the game. That doesn't mean that beta testing for constellation members is a bad idea, but I wouldn't bother asking for it either.

Asraniel · June 2003

i would love to donate.. but im in switzerland, its a little bit hard to do... im shure many europeans would doneate if there was a easy way for us to do it

The_Real_Quasar · June 2003

I'd love to PT <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>
It's just the chance to see future versions come and go, to see new changes come into effect, to report that the scorpian hovars upside down when you press crouch <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>
Just to get a few PT videos would be brilliant <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Xzilen · June 2003

As a soon to be constellation member, I don't believe I should get any acess to things just because I donated. Its like donating to a politician and then expecting them to cut YOUR taxes by 100% just because you gave them a few bucks. Its about just doing whats nice, and right. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Xzilen · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SentrySteve @ Jun 19 2003, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 19 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ashw @ Jun 19 2003, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I've been a constellation member for a few months now and I still haven't seen any benefit (apart from maybe food in the ns team's stomach while they code).

any chance of the beta being opened up to constellation members as a bit of a repayment for the support?

:] </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The benefit is: without the constellation donations, NS 1.1 would have been cancelled and NS would not have been continued after 1.0. As simple as that. So the biggest reward from your donation is that you will get to play the next version of NS.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
We need to get "Tell-it-like-it-is" MonsE his own show, like Dr. Phil, but less on the homosexual side...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Horray for Richard Simmons?!

Um, I'll go eat breakfast now.

Necro · June 2003

betatesting, isn't fun a lot of the time, other times it just owns. Also beta testing isn't so you can see the game before everyone else, it's to fix potential problems like crashes so that the public doesn't have to experience them.

i'd say about 90% of the public would not want to betatest.

abtm · June 2003

Actually, in RE to what was said about "balancing" you can have balancing, and then you just have people who want to make the game an all out fair fight for everyone. Balancing can be done till it's ad-nauseum, but after a while (And from what I've seen/read in the tester forums) no one really is interested in it anymore. I think balancing NS 1.1 has beend done until everyones heads are spinning.

Elite_Guard · June 2003

do i get something too??? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Iced_Eagle · June 2003

Well the one thing that bugs me is on IRC when every1 asks if they can bet a beta tester <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> Necro- I think probably less than that would be goood beta testers. The one thing I wish I could be a beta tester is to see the new, possible features come and go.... *sigh* gorge sucking come to mind? maybe voogru can make plugin or something <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

RandomEngy · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 19 2003, 01:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hate to break it to you, but contrary to what many big publishers seem to think by adding public betas to their PR routines, beta testing is not all fun. Beta builds are by definition less balanced, less polished, and more buggy than a regular release. Beta testing means helping to remedy that. In other words: Beta testing == work.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Bah, you can't fool me! I got to be in the beta group for Science and Industry .97 and the email they sent to inform me of this was the best email I have ever received. I spent hours oogling at the new features and got to make suggestions that made it into the mod and helped track down bugs that were eventually eliminated. Okay, well, I guess that would seem like work to most people.

NurEinMensch · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ Jun 19 2003, 09:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i would love to donate.. but im in switzerland, its a little bit hard to do... im shure many europeans would doneate if there was a easy way for us to do it  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Well I _am_ from Europe, too (Germany) and I had no problem creating a paypal account and transfer the money.
If it works in Germany why shoudn't it work in the land of the banks Switzerland <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
I didn't need a credit card or stupid stuff like that. A simple bank account to transfer money from to paypal was all I needed.
I encourage all Europeans on this board who are afraid of paypal <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> to give it a try and support NS.
Join the constellation!
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

few · June 2003

cya in 2004 when ns 1.1 is out <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> blah

1.1 Beta For Constellation Members?

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