Rtssfps Or Whatever....

Marine0I · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Is it being copied?</div> Is the whole Natural Selection marine theory of one player playing RTS while everyone else plays FPS being copied by other game manufacturers?

Does anyone know of other similar games in the pipeline, and what they are called?

Mouse · June 2003

well realistically, you can't copy a genre. But yes I do believe that NS has made people in the industry sit up and realise that it is a genre that can work and work well. Also there is also the big old stick of coincidence, it could just be that time of the month or something for games of this genre to come forth.

Cronos · June 2003

RTS/FPS's are not new.

Battlezone was the first RTS/FPS that I am aware of, and that was released in '98. No doubt there are probably RTS/FPS games that came before that I'm unaware of. A genre cannot be stolen unless the inventor of that genre has copy righted it, which would be utterly crippling to the gaming industry since in all technicality ID software invented the FPS genre and would hence be able to halt production on any rivals at the flick of a finger...

Carling · June 2003

Heh. i wish Command and Conqure Renegades had the idea of rts and fps in one.. that game would of been so good if u could do both.

Carling · June 2003

heh battle zone was sweet <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> i still got that game abouts some where. altho i was 56k back when i last played.

*me uses rave gun at enemies*

MadFunk · June 2003

Well, now that I think about it, Dungeon Keeper from Bullfrog is the earliest FPS/RTS I can remember. The RTS element was much much much more present than that of the FPS, which was more of a feature.. but it was there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Catpoker · June 2003

i am going to make a game that has RTS/FPS elements in it, set to modern day (field commanders, high command, down to the basic rifleman and supply trucks)

expect it to come out in 20 years when i get out of the service and re-learn c++
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

i preaty much have the game design doc written up and the game balanced in my head

the problem is i cant create it..... yet

Jojoshua · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MadFunk @ Jun 9 2003, 06:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well, now that I think about it, Dungeon Keeper from Bullfrog is the earliest FPS/RTS I can remember. The RTS element was much much much more present than that of the FPS, which was more of a feature.. but it was there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Dungeon Keeper OWNS.

Pulse · June 2003

I'm pretty sure Uprising was the first.

Align · June 2003

There is a RTSFPS game in the workings, and it works like NS, ie one guy (who has the top-down view)commands the other guys who run around on the ground. I think it's called Savage or something primitive like that...

Snidely · June 2003

Of course, Team Fortress 2 was meant to have a commander mode, and so play something like an RTS/FPS...

<i>*At the mention of TF2, a ball of tumbleweed sadly passes by*</i>

<i>Giants: Citizen Kabuto </i>is an RTS/FPS. What, you've never played it? Buy it now, fool! It's dirt cheap, you can pick it up for a fiver.

n00by_doo · June 2003

Yep, Savage is about 6 weeks away by all accounts (factor in your own interpretation of dev-speak for 'soon' here). It looks pretty cool too. Check out s2games.com

Eplekongen · June 2003

I am not sure if battlezone or dungen keeper was the first one, they are both cool though. But the thing about NS is that you get to play with other players, not just toy around with tanks and sometimes jump into one if you feel like it.

kingmob · June 2003

Savage looks cute
but i could never find anything about the other side

thats what drew me in to natural selection
the whole two games in one thing (not RTS/FPS ...marines vs aliens)

Cowswin · June 2003

Errr...how about the most popular RTS/FPS on the planet right now? It's not NS, it's Planetside. Yes folks, belive it or not, Planetside is a RTS/FPS and is MUCH more popular than NS. As much as I like NS, I can't lie to myself. There's maybe 500-600 players on at a time with NS while each server for Planetside holds something like 3000.

RTS/FPS is not a new market, as stated above, it's just having a good run currently. Market trends change, go up and down and all sorts of stuff. Maybe next year the market trend will be text based browser games or MUDs or something.

Nobody knows <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Shockeh · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Jun 9 2003, 06:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ...since in all technicality ID software invented the FPS genre and would hence be able to halt production on any rivals at the flick of a finger...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
negatory.

That'll be Apogee on PC.

Thansal · June 2003

Savage
Allegiance (go look in off topic)
There is a mod in the works for UT2K3 (I think, I know there is another one out therE)
Tribes/Tribes2

Thee are ALOT, it is just that nne of them marketed as an FPS/RTS for a long time. Also few (If any) had a person dedicated as comm.

again, it aint new, it is just that NS was the first to come out in a stream of them that are comming out now

Dread · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Jun 9 2003, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <i>Giants: Citizen Kabuto </i>is an RTS/FPS. What, you've never played it? Buy it now, fool! It's dirt cheap, you can pick it up for a fiver.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh yes! That game is great <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> I love the build-mission and I used to play only them all day long.

Dungeon Keeper was fun too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Flayra · June 2003

There are definitely precedents in this genre (I forgot about Uprising, but that blew me away), but I'd like to think that NS does something new and grows the genre a bit too. Other games introduced this theme, but I've tried to make NS do it better then any of them (ie, we've seen "commander mode" before, but it never seemed integrated into the gameplay).

Rtssfps Or Whatever....

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