Veterans

Crazy_Monkey · May 2003

Gah, I didn't mean to start this on the trail of "I want to be a playtester/veteran!" crap. My bad guys. Don't do it.

Crazy_Monkey · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Insane @ May 28 2003, 12:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crazy_Monkey @ May 28 2003, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Haha, sorry. Text is horrible at expression, I'll need to start using the [sarcasm] tags and such. I understand that quite well, Insane. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Hehe. I suppose a rolling eyes smilie would come in use <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Hey, I used a wink. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Renegade · May 2003

I've been here longer than most but I've yet to gain any recognition.

MrSNEAKY · May 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> Like I said before I'm a VERY dedicated NS player I play for abotu 10 to 15 hours aday straight sometimes from day till day the next day nonstop.I'm basically trying to get everything I can out of NS ,the strats,communication,the kills,the fun but most important is the teamwork if yer team isn't good yer good as dead.

cr3am · May 2003

so, is there any way for me to Playtest? I mean, i'd still stay with NS either way, but i'd love to play 1.1

Crazy_Monkey · May 2003

Quite the catch, eh? Everyone wants to PLAY 1.1, but who truly wants to PLAYTEST it? Where I work, testing is the most boring part of programming, and yet without it you don't have a worthwhile product as you aren't sure of its stability and integrity. I would have liked to playtest 1.1 to try and help make it a better game, but that is no longer an option.

Once more, I did not mean for this to become a "I wanna be a playtester" thread. My bad.

cr3am · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crazy_Monkey @ May 28 2003, 03:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Quite the catch, eh? Everyone wants to PLAY 1.1, but who truly wants to PLAYTEST it? Where I work, testing is the most boring part of programming, and yet without it you don't have a worthwhile product as you aren't sure of its stability and integrity. I would have liked to playtest 1.1 to try and help make it a better game, but that is no longer an option.

Once more, I did not mean for this to become a "I wanna be a playtester" thread. My bad.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
i've playtested quite a few games...

Crazy_Monkey · May 2003

Play test, beta test, and alpha test. Yeah, been there, done that. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I also made an error in my previous post. I meant system and regression testing is boring. Game testing....hehe...can be quite fun. Or even testing my own maps, quite the joy. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

TACBadmaster · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (//KEm1KaL\\ @ May 28 2003, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I've seen you play, but just playing the game with normal people won't get you that far, might get up your skill when you meet some of the devs/vets/pts in the game though. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
ehrm... sorry but thoose ppl i've seen playing (although they were mostl tutors but devs as they don't really play much on european servers) weren't THAT.... skilled..... (no offense...)

Lt_Hendrickson · May 2003

of requirements 1-6 I score high on 1-4. 5 is good. 6. Now 6. what the hell is an engine(ok im not that dumb but you get the point)

Necro · May 2003

please. just stop asking to be a vet/pt. from experience, let me tell you. begging gives you a WORSE chance.

be dedicated, have lots of free time, make good posts.

Crazy_Monkey · May 2003

Ahhhh, I didn't want this to happen. This is not a "I wanna be a playtester/vet" thread!

Gah, the wonders of BBs...I make a comment on the original post, and look at what it spirals to... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Dread · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro- @ May 28 2003, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> please. just stop asking to be a vet/pt. from experience, let me tell you. begging gives you a WORSE chance.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Thank you. I saw this thread is still on front page and people are asking to pt? Get over it and continue your life, nothing to see here.

blueman · May 2003

im in this community from around 6 months before NS was released and have never begged for any playtesting/veteran status. I think pple should not worry about that. Its true, maybe its friendship, maybe its hard work, lots of forum posting and IRC hours but it all ends in if you really add something to this community. 3/4 of the pple who beg for 1.1 testing only want it to play it and go to sleep. Its not that.

Playtesting requires hours spend in not playing but looking for code bugs, map bugs, etc... its really hard work and not that much fun. From the 1 year and 2 months ive been around here ive recieved +v on both #naturalselection and #evolutionarily at IRC and i still think thats too much award for someone who only maps and ocassionally chats a bit. Please dont beg and stop this stupid posts of who should be this and who should be that, that doesnt help here. Just have this in mind, if you really add to the community then you got many chances to get to be someone here.

Vash7h3Stampede · May 2003

I don't remember who said it earlier, but he was right. Begging doesn't get you anywhere. If anything it just makes you seem kind of childish. I know that I can get giddy at just the thought of NS 1.1 release, but I don't beg anyone to be a playtester or to get special treatment. I play NS to get as much out of it as I can. If I was a beta tester, great, but I'm not and it really doesn't matter to me because I know that I will eventually get to play it. Im not going to go crazy trying to be the first one.

Lux · May 2003

you are not vets because you do not scrim, you do not compete.

Get off these forums and go join or make a clan and scrim (#findnsscrim), get known in the competitive commuinity than you can whine.

Cereal_KillR · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt. Hendrickson @ May 28 2003, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> what the hell is an engine  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
you have one in your car. You know the big thing in the front that goes brrrrrrrrrrrrr <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Vash7h3Stampede · May 2003

Going down a list of potential NS Vet. candidates. Lemme see knowledge of the engine.
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You know the big thing in the front that goes brrrrrrrrrrrrr</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

*Maddly scribbles out Cereal_KillR's name*

Windelkron · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Insane @ May 28 2003, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hehehe.

Dread, IRC will help as far as getting yourself known, but it's your forum activity that is likely to count the most in terms of achieving a PT position, as it's generally easier to show your communication skills and other PT-worthy attributes in forums as opposed to a real-time chat environment.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
/me boasts his higher post count than dread <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Seriously, does forum activity mean in all forums? Im active in mapping, S&I, and off-topic; not very much in General.

And the thing about the clanners. I don't want to be anti-clanner here, but WHY THE HELL were they chosen to participate in PUB-style playtests? Clanners have winning-the-game in mind when they play NS, not the fun that comes in the process. NS is not an exclusively clan game, in fact I believe it's more of a pub-style game. When I read firewater's (not meaning to be personal here, but he is a prominent clanner) posts on the Beta forum, I can't help but think that he's interested in WINNING the game rather than PLAYING the game. Like he was talking about the cheap solo JP+HMG hive-killing mission, and he said "it was harder to do this time around" or whatever. You see for a clanner, a JP+HMG solo is a good thing because it means a quick end to the game, but in the context of a game it ISN'T FUN.

If they were goin to have clanners PTing beta versions, they should at least seperate clan games from pub games.

sekdar · May 2003

no matter how well you score on those criteria, you still have to make your presense known, and more importantly, appreciated.

edit: this isn't directed to anyone specifically, just saying.

Iced_Eagle · May 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> i hate my stupid unstable internet connection.... AND ITS DSL............netgear routers dont work 4 some reason :\ at least for me.... newaysat least im known by a few PT's so i get some brownie points there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> wow this is 1 long topic

CEldin · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ May 28 2003, 07:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrSNEAKY @ May 28 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'd even take on Flayra anytime anywhere <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Good for you. It's actually good that Flay uses more time making the game instead of playing it.

I'm not a particularly good NS Player. I just know about NS more than average ns player <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yea, I find it quite amusing how little about game mechanics that people actually know. I mean common sense type things (i.e. dont have 6 people building with no cover, or, Where is my sensory upgrades guys? We have two hives and defense/movement...).

Its also amazing to see how many commanders/gorges go in there without really understanding the basic movement of marines/kharra. (For example, gorges should NOT go to a hive for their first node as generally one or two rines will escape to hives in begining of game, or a comm builds on the hive side of the map - building horseshoe when they have maint, that kinda thing).

All in all, if you know the mechanics of the game, and are THERE when stuff goes down, NS 'skills' tend to follow.

cr3am · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crazy_Monkey @ May 28 2003, 03:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ahhhh, I didn't want this to happen. This is not a "I wanna be a playtester/vet" thread!

Gah, the wonders of BBs...I make a comment on the original post, and look at what it spirals to... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
NEITHER DID I! i assure you, look at the first post, i really didn't want it to.

criticaI · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ May 28 2003, 02:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrSNEAKY @ May 28 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'd even take on Flayra anytime anywhere <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Good for you. It's actually good that Flay uses more time making the game instead of playing it.

I'm not a particularly good NS Player. I just know about NS more than average ns player <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
He plays more WC3 from what I hear *cough* Grendel quit distracting him *cough*

Comprox · May 2003

Ok, the main question has been answered. There is no *one* thing that decides it. Some people just stand above the crowd. Even the smallest thing that one guy does over another can be a big deciding factor. And Flayra seems to be able to pick guys out of the crowd who have said 2 posts who are just amazing also... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

But, this has degraded into a "omg, I have those traits, why don't you pick me mommy?" thread, so I shall put it to rest with my large cane of pane...

<b><span style='color:red'>**WHACK**</span></b>

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