Umbra

Golath · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">^^^^^^^</div> How does it actually work? Does it work by bullets passing through or whats actually IN the umbra e.g

m= marine
u= umbra
a = alien

1
M UUU A

2
M UAU

Will the umbra in pic 1 have any effect on the alien?

Brad_R · May 2003

no

DizzyOne · May 2003

U have to be in the cloud, not precisly but thats the idea anyway

Zenn · May 2003

Currently, Umbra only works if the message "in umbra" appears on your screen. If there is yellow/orange umbra in front of you...but you aren't "in umbra"...you are NOT getting the effects of umbra. Anything on the alien side can be umbra'ed including Structures, Hive, and Aliens. But the umbra must be pyschically AROUND these things for it to work on them.

Golath · May 2003

Yeah i thought it worked like that. Is it a bug or a feature?

Ph0enix · May 2003

It's supposed to work like that.

Align · May 2003

Feature-ish, if it was possible to make it work both of the times, Im sure it would be like that, but as of now the HL engine doesn't allow such things.

Mouse · May 2003

It's a feature, it prevents lerks from setting up umbra 'force fields' to protect aliens at the other end of the hallway.

2of12B0RG · May 2003

I always wondered why umbra didn't work if you were behind it, say you spray it then retreat. I mean, it only makes sense to work that way. Oh well. It SHOULD work that way, but I'm not bitching. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

Xtof · May 2003

Can someone pls explain me what this topic is all about???

Greetz,
XtOf

lolfighter · May 2003

In other words, if a Lerk wants to protect itself in 1.1, it will have to shoot at the floor? Didn't know umbra only works if you are in the cloud, valuable information.
I am suddenly reminded of a situation where I drove a HMG/JP'er nuts. Sat on the hive umbra'ing it... He had no means of killing the hive, and whenever he started to shoot me (nigh-impossible since the hive/3 DCs underneath it healed me quicker than he could shoot me through the umbra) I started spiking him - he would get the point, stop shooting me (I would stop shooting him), he would start shooting the hive (no effect), he would shoot me, I would shoot him, he would stop (Medpack!), I would stop, he would shoot hive etc. etc. In the end a skulk jumped him from behind and ripped out his spine. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Moquiao · May 2003

i alway thoguht umbra was safe to stand behind...

logically.. if the bullets get stopped going through it.. then they wont pass through umbra to hit you..

Lightning_Blue · May 2003

Umbra right now seems to be the best counter to JP/HMG.

FireStorm · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ May 27 2003, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Feature-ish, if it was possible to make it work both of the times, Im sure it would be like that, but as of now the HL engine doesn't allow such things.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You can do this in HL...

Align · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>]i alway thoguht umbra was safe to stand behind...

logically.. if the bullets get stopped going through it.. then they wont pass through umbra to hit you..</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes logically... but this is the HL engine, not Real Life.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FireStorm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You can do this in HL... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
You sure? I mean, it's hitscan weapons... if you do know how to do it, tell Flayra, I'm sure he would be interested.

Align · May 2003

The hell? Can't edit my last post, just brings up a LOT of weird code...
Wanted to say this: I didn't see Mouse's post on "umbra force field block", so I take the "flayra would be interested" part back.

FireStorm · May 2003

I'm sure he can do it by himself... That's just some math.

a_civilian · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ May 27 2003, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The hell? Can't edit my last post, just brings up a LOT of weird code...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
The post can't be quoted (by clicking the quote button) either. That happened to one of my posts too.

Demonmerc · May 2003

Yeah this is definitely something that's not clear at all.

People read the description and say "Oh it stops bullets" and I for one assumed both #1 and #2 were the case. Its pretty obvious when you lay umbra walls down and get creamed behind them, but people associate that with just getting shot a whole lot, since umbra doesnt completely negate damage.

They should change the description to match the function.

a_civilian · May 2003

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=26849&hl=&st=15&#entry336363' target='_blank'>Here</a> is a simple explanation.

Demonmerc · May 2003

Well thats fine & dandy if you read the new players forum...

For the newbies who dont...

Fina · May 2003

So, the bullets slow down then speed back up again?

Demonmerc · May 2003

click that link a few posts up...

Think of it as a "gas that helps you dodge bullets" as opposed to a "gas that stops bullets".

Umbra

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