Gorging.

XaajehXaajeh Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16546Members
edited May 2003 in New Player Forum
Just a note to new players.

You will hear much talk from players within the game about how many gorges should be on at any given time.

Usually, it is in the form of:

"GET OFF GORGE WE DON'T NEED TWO GORGES"

Forget what you hear and just follow these simply guidelines that work well in public games.

Starting off with one gorge.

Stay with one gorge until around the time when the second hive will or is going up.

At this point (especially on large maps), two gorges are especially useful and are much more important than the "extra" res which would accumulate had there been only one gorge.

Give the game time, it takes a long time to learn.

Hopefully the forum moderator, Talesin, will not try and be <span style='color:white'>***Nuked.***</span> and delete this post as well.

<span style='color:red'>*No, I'll just selectively delete the portions which are rude, insulting, or otherwise against the forum rules.*</span>

<span style='color:blue'>*No, you will accept my opinion of you. I really do not care what the forum rules are. The truth is the truth. Hurts... does it not?*</span>

<span style='color:white'>Next time you decide to use these boards to compare someone - anyone - to the biggest monster in history, you'll be banned. If you had the slightest idea of what you were talking about, you'd refrain from tainting the word 'truth' with this.</span>

Comments

  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited May 2003
    yeah well, the comparison of Talesin to some figure who was acitve during the 1930 - 1940's won't be taken so lightly m8.

    Next to that, I don't think many ppl will agree with your statement on gorging, neither do I, cos what you say is crap <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    /waits for the thread to be deleted <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Exploding-ManExploding-Man Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11565Members
    Agreed. Ive seen total ownage (In a large game of course) using 4 gorges (me being one of them) If you have alot of res flowing in than dont be afraid to web up the place and build 0 towers. granted you must use common sense though IE if you are on a server with only 9 people, you sure as hell dont need 3 gorges.but after the second hive goes up gorges can be extremely usefull, hell even at the begining you can have a gorge caping res while another saves up for hive #2. A 2 girge team is definately usefull.
  • DEADscottDEADscott Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15022Members, Constellation
    Standard play for ME when I'm the first Gorge. Get 3 Res Nodes. This including your starting Res Node will bring your total to 4. Save for and put up the Hive. Once the Hive is going up, drop 3 Defensive Chambers. First thing after completion of the second hive is to drop 3 Movement Chambers. Then put up Offensive chambers to secure the second Hive. Then use a Movement Chamber to return to the first Hive and use Offensive chambers to secure this Hive. This should get you and your team off to a good start. The only time I change this is if my team is getting spanked. Then after my 3 Res Nodes and Before the Hive, I will drop the 3 Defensive Chambers. Hopefully this gives your Skulks the boost they need to stop the spanking. This is just what I do, and It seems to work well for ME. Other strats or ideas may work well too.
  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Xaajeh: sweeeeeeeet! you just instigated the GODWIN RULE! congratulations!!!

    <a href='http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/' target='_blank'>http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/</a>


    welcome to the millions of posters who have fallen into the dreaded trap. discussion closed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Niteowl+May 21 2003, 06:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Niteowl @ May 21 2003, 06:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Xaajeh: sweeeeeeeet! you just instigated the GODWIN RULE! congratulations!!!

    <a href='http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/' target='_blank'>http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/</a>


    welcome to the millions of posters who have fallen into the dreaded trap. discussion closed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then again, since the discussions forum was closed... there's no way I can forsee to "get away with it".
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    edited May 2003
    <span style='color:white'>Call me knee-jerk (as I most probably am), but even in jest, such stuff is inappropriate.</span>

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Nem is the deadly forum ninja! Woosh!

    But getting back on topic, under the 1.04 res rules, consider two gorges to be an absolute maximum. In the beginning, there should be one gorge, putting up towers, until the alien team as between three and five. At this time, the second gorge gestates. One gorge saves up RP for the second hive, while the other one builds three DCs, defenses for both hives, and additional res towers. When the second hive is up, if the third hive is not secured, both gorges should work on fortifying and building that hive in the same manner. One builds, the other saves. If this is not the case, one gorge continues to fortify and build res nodes, while the other one either gestates back to skulk, or activly attacks or supports offensives of marine positions as battle gorge.

    This is the best-case scenario for a public game, but it usually doesn't happen this way.
  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spyder Monkey+May 21 2003, 07:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spyder Monkey @ May 21 2003, 07:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Niteowl+May 21 2003, 06:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Niteowl @ May 21 2003, 06:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Xaajeh: sweeeeeeeet! you just instigated the GODWIN RULE! congratulations!!!

    <a href='http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/' target='_blank'>http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/</a>


    welcome to the millions of posters who have fallen into the dreaded trap. discussion closed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then again, since the discussions forum was closed... there's no way I can forsee to "get away with it". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oops, sorry about the link, i just wanted a reference to Godwin's rule, not about how to get away with it.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Redford: interesting.. 2 gorges before 2nd hive. i wonder what the numbers are on that? i think i got a link to some uber tool for that too.

    <a href='http://nakyveci.wz.cz/NSEcoSim.html' target='_blank'>http://nakyveci.wz.cz/NSEcoSim.html</a>

    aw crap, i that's only for rines.
  • MordenMorden Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14045Members
    Heh heh... Godwin's law is brilliant. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SOTF-Striker_01SOTF-Striker_01 Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13354Members
    I just ge annoyed when n00bs use the gorge to attack the marine base
  • NiteowlNiteowl Join Date: 2002-09-04 Member: 1274Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    "i turned into a gorge so i could SHOOT!!!"


    hehehehehehe
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+May 21 2003, 11:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ May 21 2003, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='color:white'>Call me knee-jerk (as I most probably am), but even in jest, such stuff is inappropriate.</span>

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OK - noted. I think I did it somewhere else here, but I did that having not read this post. Duly understood.
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