Hive Room

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">tell me what you think</div> constructive critisism only

Confused · May 2003

brush work is pretty good

i might vary the lighting a bit more its nice to have shadows and differnet color lights in a room

my only other beef is the light textures them selves mebe use one that is more infested looking but that is your choice

moultano · May 2003

the pit in the center looks pretty out of place. Possibly, beveling the edges around it would help. The lighting looks very cool at the moment, very dappled and 'junglesque', but the room needs more colors/contrast

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

the pit in the center is there because the majority of the level is a sewer. If you look around you should be able to find a post by me about fullbright textures, thats also the same level, just outside of the hive room. Ill definately be working on adding more colours to it and doing something with the pit.

Cagey · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Some_tall_guy @ May 20 2003, 11:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> constructive critisism only </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I think you should mix up the colors a bit -- it currently feels like I'm looking at a tinted black and white pic. Some subtle differences in saturation (i.e. make some of the light more "white" than other parts to bring out the colors that are already in the textures) might help without breaking the theme.

Also, did this room serve a distinct purpose before the Kharaa showed up? The pipes at the top and the pool at the bottom suggest fluid transfer, but if I saw this room pre-infestation I'd probably be confused about why it was there. It doesn't matter for gameplay (which is the most important consideration IMO), but having a recognizable purpose for "major" rooms helps enhance the atmosphere of a level quite a bit. Some of the official maps do a better job of this than others IMHO, but it's something to think about.

EDIT: grammar

CoolCookieCooks · May 2003

looks like my toilet after ive had a dump <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

is that a compliment?

CoolCookieCooks · May 2003

hehe its cool coz its green and dark and... like my toilet!

ne way does that water bit at the bottom link anywhere or is it a hidin pool or summin?

moultano · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Some_tall_guy @ May 20 2003, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> is that a compliment?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I'd take it as such. That really does look like the slimiest room I've ever seen in an ns map.

BlackSeer · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Some_tall_guy @ May 20 2003, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> is that a compliment?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
If his toilet look like that you manage to pull something off .. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Why is the hole there? Guess the floor cave in but how deep is it? Is it a entrance?

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

the big pit in the floor is there as a main chamber where all the water/diahrea (if it really is his toilet) meets and is then sent to a filtering area (probably another hive) and made clean for bottled water (i swear this is where they get it from <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> )

Reese · May 2003

Yeah, I will have to say that this is the MOST infestation i've ever seen in a hive. You might want to rename this to something where the level of infestation makes sense. (Like nano storage or some kind of airlock/entry to the ship/complex) The nano supply part would make the pipes (and possibly the pool) make a lot more sense. Also it WOULD make sense for the aliens to take over the nano sludge storage room. Other than that I have no real comments that haven't been made already. I agree that a bevel on the pool would make it look better. Also there appears to be no ladder or other means of leaving the pool, is this intentional or just on the to-do list?

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

the ladder is on the to do list, update!

I added the pipes on the far wall as well as the blue light above them. I added a railing and pipes in the pit with red light underneath

looks like christmas, crapper style

Insane · May 2003

Yes, that second pic really is the business there.

Perhaps a few bright white light_spots, though?

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

where might you suggest some of these white spotlights should go?

edit: forgot 2 words <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

NerdIII · May 2003

And still: That first picture gives a feeling of time stopping, because it is so yellow and contrastless. You should really make one part of your map like that. I'm sick of all that good-looking spot_lights *g*. A slimy old sewer has to look timeless and contrastless. Yellow is perfect for that purpose!
Greetz, Marco

Iced_Eagle · May 2003

all you gotta do is vary the lighting and it will be good to go.... what map is this for??? or do u not have a name for it yet

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

another update, taken away 2/3 of the red lights and added a few white one. also ive added some more pipes (probably the last ill put in)

Fam · May 2003

Add some piles of infestation, and some dripping water particle systems, and you have a winner. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

blueman · May 2003

i do really like the 2º pic hive. I dont know why theres so many pple that dont liek redish lighting. I think red gives a really scary "momentum" to the rooms. I still think that room needs a porpouse for it, i mean, why so many pipes? maybe add a generator or a computer around there to give the room the feeling that it does have a real think to add to the entire map. Still this criticism, gj.

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

Evilness ensues....... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>

I'm planning on calling this map ns_sewer or cloacal as soon as i find out what cloacal is <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> its in the definition of sewer so it has to do something with it, but its not anywhere else. anyone able to tell me what cloacal is?

ok i know what cloacal is now <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Windelkron · May 2003

I hope the cieling is very far above the pipes, and the hive hangs from the cieling -- that would be so cool.

As in, all those pipes are below the hive. Lots of pipes = win. Imagine a jetpacker going through all the pipes and whatnot... wow it would be atmospheric!

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

that is an amazing idea, ill probably use it for one of the other 2 hives, thx

Reese · May 2003

Wow.... I have the first pic you posted and the last one up here so I can flip right between 'em and compare. All I have to say is wow. It's amazing how much this room has improved over your modifications... especially since it went through pretty much NO structural changes.

some_small_guy · May 2003

hey some tall guy lookin awsome dude(this is coop) ne ways gl with the rest of the map

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'> ( Poor gorgy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> )
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>

Nazul · May 2003

2nd pic is nicer ,if you just turn the red down a bit .. and the entrance i dont like <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> rest is pwn

84n44n · May 2003

pwnz0r map... want this :O

sad thing is though, that i find barely any servers that even only occasionally play a custom map. the best i've seen is ns_siege005 or something and i find that map suxoring... NS needs some real good custom map servers...

maybe there are already buti haven't noticed them. propably because of bad pings in that case.

Some_tall_guy · May 2003

ya the entrance will be modified so its better, its just there so i can you know, enter

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