I Want To Mirror The 1.1 Files...

NurEinMensch · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">...when they are out.</div> Hi,

I've got enough webspace and no traffic limit, so I could mirror the 1.1 files as soon as they are aviable.
Is this kind of help welcomed atm?

Amped1 · May 2003

I don't know why Flayra would turn this offer down. Try sending an email though.

NurEinMensch · May 2003

*bump*

I emailed him yesterday, no reply yet.

NumbersNotFound · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ May 18 2003, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don't know why Flayra would turn this offer down. Try sending an email though.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Maybe becaues he might just be some guy trying to get 1.1 earlier than others?

I dunno..

Brad_R · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ May 19 2003, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ May 18 2003, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don't know why Flayra would turn this offer down. Try sending an email though. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Maybe becaues he might just be some guy trying to get 1.1 earlier than others?

I dunno..  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
To play 1.1 on the beta servers, Flayra must add your WON-ID to a database that allows you access to them, so he still couldn't play really.

DiscoDuck · May 2003

Well, it seems like it will be at least another two months before 1.1 is ready. So most likely Flayra is working on finishing it before thinking about hosting it

NurEinMensch · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ May 19 2003, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ May 18 2003, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I don't know why Flayra would turn this offer down. Try sending an email though. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Maybe becaues he might just be some guy trying to get 1.1 earlier than others?

I dunno..  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yea sure, that's what it's all about... getting my hands on 1.1 earlier... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>
Seriously, I've made an offer to host the Natural Selection files, nothing more, nothing less.

That_Annoying_Kid · May 2003

If you want to host 1.1 files, I see that as either crazy, or **** at your host, 1.1 will kill many a server...<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

you could try PMing MonsE when he gets back, he seems to be the lead for that

Zel · May 2003

im under the impression that 600 people will try to download it as soon as it gets out, so it will eat up bandwidth, and they are really looking for good hosts. he should get that email in a couple days, ive also heard that flayra is bombarded by stupid "i want 1.1" emails, so he may have accidentally trashed yours already.

NurEinMensch · May 2003

Yea I will PM him.
And as I've said before I've got no traffic limit and currently not much use for that server. So let 'em come! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Kalias · May 2003

Generally 'no bandwidth limit' means 'You can think you have no limit... until you take too much... then we melt your house.' so I wouldn't be suprised if you find your mirror blocked within like... an hour.

NumbersNotFound · May 2003

Just use your server as a huge seed for a bit torrent... that will lighten the load a little <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

krapht · May 2003

What's up with bit-torrent? I've started seeing mucho bit torrent linkage on slashdot etc. What's the big deal? Its just another p2p program.

NurEinMensch · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kalias @ May 19 2003, 05:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Generally 'no bandwidth limit' means 'You can think you have no limit... until you take too much... then we melt your house.' so I wouldn't be suprised if you find your mirror blocked within like... an hour.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You might be right, but there's only one way to find out. I'm going to host those files.
Still no "official" reply from the ns team tho.

Giga · May 2003

I really wouldnt mirror mate.

You dont have unlimited bandwidth and will just cause ure self alot of hassle. Possibly lose ure provider.

NurEinMensch · May 2003

Thank you for your advice, I appreciate that, but I'm going to do it anyways. Call me stupid if you want, or just call me a Natural Selection fan. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Asraniel · May 2003

a edonkey 1.1 release wouldnt be that bad i think.....

NurEinMensch · May 2003

Flayra himself pm-ed me, he will notify me when he needs my service.
I'll be ready!

Nemesis_Zero · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ May 20 2003, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> a edonkey 1.1 release wouldnt be that bad i think.....  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Easy: Put it in your shared folder equivalent after downloading. On Halloween, I connected to Kazaa for the first time in months just for that reason <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

SourFruit · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (krapht @ May 19 2003, 11:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>What's up with bit-torrent? I've started seeing mucho bit torrent linkage on slashdot etc. What's the big deal? Its just another p2p program.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Bit torrent is different, because while you download the file, others can download it at the same time from you. Therefore; the more demand, the more availibilty the file gets.
I think its friggin' genious in its simplicity.

obuh · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SourFruit @ May 20 2003, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bit torrent is different, because while you download the file, others can download it at the same time from you. Therefore; the more demand, the more availibilty the file gets.
I think its friggin' genious in its simplicity.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Programs like Overnet, edonkey or emule do it for ages already.

littlewild · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (krapht @ May 19 2003, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What's up with bit-torrent? I've started seeing mucho bit torrent linkage on slashdot etc. What's the big deal? Its just another p2p program.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Bittorrent is pretty innovative, it is p2p alright, but it is done thru http protocol.
And it <b>forces</b> you to upload while you are downloading the file, which will offer the necessary amount of bandwidth required because of the p2p nature.

It sure beats the hell out of downloading the file from one central ftp server.

Btw, I plan to have host a bit torrent version of NS 1.1 as well.

littlewild · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ May 20 2003, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SourFruit @ May 20 2003, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bit torrent is different, because while you download the file, others can download it at the same time from you. Therefore; the more demand, the more availibilty the file gets.
I think its friggin' genious in its simplicity. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Programs like Overnet, edonkey or emule do it for ages already.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Uh no really, coz bit torrent forces you to upload. With other p2p programs, you can just leech without uploading, that's the main difference.

obuh · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (littlewild @ May 20 2003, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ May 20 2003, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SourFruit @ May 20 2003, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bit torrent is different, because while you download the file, others can download it at the same time from you. Therefore; the more demand, the more availibilty the file gets.
I think its friggin' genious in its simplicity. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Programs like Overnet, edonkey or emule do it for ages already. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Uh no really, coz bit torrent forces you to upload. With other p2p programs, you can just leech without uploading, that's the main difference.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Well, with Overnet, everything you download becomes shared, allowing other users to download the parts of the files you already have. It is not possible to unshare your temp files. You can neither cancel an upload (cancelling uploads is/was possible with Kazaa for example). In that way it enforces you to upload too.

Cowswin · May 2003

For those that want it, I'm on a OS10 line and can host it on Kazaa under a specified name and user and open it up to a bunch of users at once so lots of people can get 1.1 when they want. Not asking for a pre-release, just like a day or so before so I can get my computers ready <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

littlewild · May 2003

Bit torrent is http based and open source. The important bit is "http based" because it helps to solve the problem of having a central http/ftp server tha's unable to cope.

obuh · May 2003

See what people are ready to do just to have the game before the others <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> ...

obuh · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (littlewild @ May 20 2003, 12:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bit torrent is http based and open source. The important bit is "http based" because it helps to solve the problem of having a central http/ftp server tha's unable to cope.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Ok you've won, I surrender <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Nemesis_Zero · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ May 20 2003, 05:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> See what people are ready to do just to have the game before the others <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> ...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
By three or so hours. Hooray.

Cowswin · May 2003

I can also host it on my website for those that would feel more secure. It only boasts of multiple OC-3s though although it is "more reliable". Here's the specs on my host's network and even a clicky link so you can do a traceroute and check your speed to see if you'd be gettin' a good download from my server.

<a href='http://www.matrixreseller.com/network/index.php' target='_blank'>http://www.matrixreseller.com/network/index.php</a>

I've got a ton of bandwidth with my package that I dont use so I don't mind hosting a mirror link for a week or two just to get the big rush split up enough so that NS.org doesn't crash and burn <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

NurEinMensch · May 2003

Twisted Master, my brother in mind! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
I don't have a fancy traceroute script, but when you want to test my server just run
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>tracert 213.146.185.81</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
to see if you get a good connection. By the way that's a german server, so it's probably more usefull to the euros on this forum.
Maybe I'll give that bit torrent thing a look too.

I Want To Mirror The 1.1 Files...

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