Primal Scream

IncitatusIncitatus Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4316Members
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Primal scream a lerk ability?
I don't think it would be quite as convincing coming from the tiny lerk than it was coming from the mighty onos.
OMI Leave it with the onos.

O Primal scream now makes affected aliens scream back in defiance.

That's one of the coolest things in the changelog!
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I've got to agree that the idea of a Lerk roaring with the feriocity of an Onos is remotely ridiculous, but seeing that the flyer is modelled after a bat, it makes in a way sense. Guess it's a question of sound and feeling.
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  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    edited May 2003
    I reckon the "screams in defiance" will more than make up for the fact that it's a lerk sounding the charge - a lerk alone might not be scary, but if he's in a collection of skulks, fades and oni, New Primal Scream™ will turn your pants browner than brown, guarenteed.
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    Heh... I fully like the idea.... I look at the lerk.. and I see calculating bird.. not whimpy bat... think Queen Alien... hehe... maybe make the lerk a lil bigger....or not..

    Anyhow... I think that lerk primal scream is gunna be AWESOME.... A lerk flys into MS, screams.. and suddenly the whole map shudders as oni, Fades, and sulks suddenly charge, screaming their collective heads off..... heh... it's gunna rock!
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  • TorgoTorgo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11626Members
    Maybe if they change the existing primal scream thundering roar of the onos, to have something more high pitched that would fit a tiny, bird like alien....that'd make more sense to me.
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  • acer_r1acer_r1 Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14397Banned
    what does primal scream do entierly?i know that it boosts stats but extally what and how much?...
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  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    edited May 2003
    Maybe they could make the lerk sound like a bat flying in a cave. Make it kind of high pitched but make it echo.... that would be creepy. As for how much primal scream affects your stats and such here is a more detailed info from the manual (its actually really k00l <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As the pinnacles of Kharaa strength and power, the Onos must have always been rallying points in battle. The so called "primal scream" is a bellowing roar that triggers a battle fervor in any nearby alien ? and in the Onos itself. Adrenaline courses through their bodies ? similar to the evolution, but affecting the entire alien's physiology in a much more extreme fashion. They are faster, deadlier, and can ignore more damage.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • KalmahKalmah Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14143Members
    I can tell Primal Scream is a lot higher pitched now personally. It's cool, but seems to last about half as long as it did coming from the onos is 1.04
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    soo, instead of

    "ROOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR"

    its now

    "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK"
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  • IncitatusIncitatus Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4316Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--z.x. bogglestiensky+May 14 2003, 09:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (z.x. bogglestiensky @ May 14 2003, 09:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> soo, instead of

    "ROOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR"

    its now

    "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • clamatiusclamatius Join Date: 2003-03-27 Member: 14948Members, Constellation
    I think we should lobby to rename it Primal Squawk. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (just kidding)
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    so do all aliens scream back the same?

    or is it a diff sound?
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  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->O Primal scream now makes affected aliens scream back in defiance
    Ooh now THAT is cool. Can you make the screams randomly delayed a little so that the aliens don't scream back in unison but instead stagger the screaming a little little?
    *SPOILER*
    Kinda like the lion king at the end when Simba roared at the pride and they did a big long roar thing back at him. That scene would have just been plain odd if the lionesses all made one single massive roar in unison...
    */SPOILER*
    Ok soz, couldn't resist doing it like that lol...
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    Watch out, Ill be joining in down voicecomms <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Actually, in light of the sound, primal scream is very fitting for the Lerk's new support role persona.
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  • MEShootHereMEShootHere Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6975Members
    I love it, especially all the other Kharaa roaring back..that must be so intense on 20 player servers when at least 6 other Kharaa are present.
    I personally don't mind, the lerk will have a more supporting role like a welder for the marines. I enjoy playing lerk and pestering the marines, its so much more fun to pester them than to kill them.
    Kill one marine and getting shot as a skulk makes them sweat, pester them when they dont know where you are keeps them busy 10x as much <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Long live the lerk!
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  • Sgt_AponeSgt_Apone Join Date: 2003-03-27 Member: 14934Members
    I agree with the first poster, it was like 'great, an onos is here, lets kill everybody'. It wont be the same with a lerk, more suspension of disbelief imo.
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  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--acer r+May 14 2003, 11:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (acer r @ May 14 2003, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what does primal scream do entierly?i know that it boosts stats but extally what and how much?... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Primal Scream boost's your energy charge, your running speed and you can hit about twice as fast.
    It also affects all aliens who are near the onos, when he uses it.
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  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    I personally think primal scream would fit best on the fade from a thematic point of view, (something about the Fade's hunter-like nature) but from a balance point of view I can see why it's not an onos ability (it basically was always used as a personal power-up, rather than a support ability).

    I would be disappointed if all the alien species' 'counter-screams' sounded the same.
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    agreed, the gorge, sinces he's fat and lazy wont scream at all. he would just say "umm, yeah, what they said" and get back to work
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  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    Best idea ever is the collective screams idea - fits perfectly with the idea of psychological warfare <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Ps they should make it so they all go weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! instead for comedy value <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • IncitatusIncitatus Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4316Members
    Or a girly jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeej <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--th@ annoying kid+May 14 2003, 11:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (th@ annoying kid @ May 14 2003, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so do all aliens scream back the same?

    or is it a diff sound? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly what I'm wondering...

    And ME
    Comparing a lerk to a welder is now in the "TOP TEN COMPARISONS OF THE DAY"
    hehe
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  • Jink_JinkJink_Jink Join Date: 2003-03-05 Member: 14348Members
    I can't find the post but someone had the idea to rename the Lerks primal scream to Swack!

    SWACKKKK SSWWWWWACKK!


    but i do like it on the lerk, its very fitting for the support role. Plus it will make his spike o so much faster. I loved it when onos did it and i was a lerk. it ment almost insta deathj for a marine.
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  • JoltGrisJoltGris Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11143Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--z.x. bogglestiensky+May 15 2003, 08:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (z.x. bogglestiensky @ May 15 2003, 08:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> agreed, the gorge, sinces he's fat and lazy wont scream at all. he would just say "umm, yeah, what they said" and get back to work <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hahaha <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    I think the lerk should go "He he he he he he!" (like giggling), and the other aliens would also giggle. Then all the humans would run away screaming "COOTIES!"
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    /me sets up camp near base to ambush some marines, and cloaks
    Marines enter...
    *Primal scream, and roars back in defiance*
    "****! ****, why just NOW?"
    -

    -

    -

    Will you still 'scream back in defiance' when cloaked?
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  • BelrickNZBelrickNZ Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11156Members
    It makes perfect sense IMHO.
    The lerk is a support unit while the ONOS is a tank. This change just confirms it.
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  • Asal_The_UnforgivingAsal_The_Unforgiving Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14903Members
    now, instead of being a little flying specialist, the lerk has evolved into the alien standard bearer....it would be funny if i changed the sound of primal sceam to a shortened revellie....but that's kinda what i get the idea of it being. Just like the man standing near the commander with his huge 'SHOOT ME' flag. I kinda like the idea of the lerk sounding the charge....keeps the onos' mouth clear for marine chewing.
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  • killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Align+May 15 2003, 10:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ May 15 2003, 10:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Will you still 'scream back in defiance' when cloaked? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    .... or silenced
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  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    If you are silenced, will you still make the "return scream of defiance"?

    I expect the lerk to have a screech instead of a roar. A cool effect I'd like to see implemented (probably not going to happen though) is that any marines near the screech/primal scream are temporarily deafened for a few seconds. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    The screech is the last thing they hear for 10 seconds or so.
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