The Welder

homerx · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">why does it always have that short pause</div> this is a really small detail, but oh well..

why does the welder always have that short pause when u take it out?

was this done on purpose?

or

will this be *fixed* in 1.1?

Moquiao · May 2003

maybe you have to spark it to get it going?

ThE_HeRo · May 2003

I dunno, it really shouldn't matter too much, unless you're using it in combat. And then I ask, why not the knife?

It prolly has to spark and all that jazz. Like Wolf said.

FlyFlown · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThE HeRo @ May 13 2003, 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I And then I ask, why not the knife?
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Cuz knife aint easy to aim with, cuz the welder is a "unstopped-shot" weapon (dunno if its very understandable but heh im not english ;p), cuz the welder makes more dammage... Need more reasons?
And yeah I noticed this long pause to take the welder out, I think it was done on purpose but if it could be shorted, it wouldnt be bad <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

KhazModan · May 2003

seems to me its unpacking its self, when u equip it u see the bottom open up and then the sparky bit pop out then its active.

i think this is on purpose. its fun killing skulks with welders!!! you will die more time than you will kill though (unless HA)

Roobubba · May 2003

that pause is the killer for another reason too, guy in front with welder dies, you run over welder. Pick welder up. Switch to welder automatically. Die. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

homerx · May 2003

this is kinda OT but yes, ive already made a thread about the "auto pick-up" thing...

i hope the devs have read it and will take it into consideration... you can use the search function if u wanna read it

obuh · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ May 13 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> that pause is the killer for another reason too, guy in front with welder dies, you run over welder. Pick welder up. Switch to welder automatically. Die. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
oh that pisses me off so much iwhen it happens to me while fighting an alien <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

localhost2600 · May 2003

and if you notice, all guns have a short "ready" time when you take them out

Roobubba · May 2003

yeah but the welder ready time is MASSIVE. If you need to whip it out for that amusing "chase the fade down the corridor with your jetpack welding his back" kill (yes I got one and it was made even more amusing by the other fade with him jumping down one of those holes of death in docking wing in terror when I came flying at them welder poised!) then it's almost impossible to actually get it to fire without dying first <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Sorry about that sentence. A little silly methinks

FlyFlown · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (localhost2600 @ May 13 2003, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> and if you notice, all guns have a short "ready" time when you take them out  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
short yes. The one to take the welder out is soooooooooooooooooooo long that u cant use it in fight if it aint already out... :/

Roger_Dodger · May 2003

Im definetly not a fan of the auto pick up for the welder. The pause i think makes the welder a bit harder to use in combat situations whether that be trying to weld a building in one last dieing attempt or welding a HA mate with extremely low armour or just the out of lmg lets go welding <insert crazed look smiley> muahaha. It just makes it a little less like rines are invulnerable with welders (slight exaggeration but we know how good welder was in early versions).

- RD

FireStorm · May 2003

1. Auto pickup of the second weapon sucks
2. I think the ready time for the welder is made for balance purouses, like the skulk bite or the muzzleflash

That_Annoying_Kid · May 2003

The welder seems to unpack itself when you take it out, and it makes sense,
oh well

Amped1 · May 2003

Sub Evil-

That sig picture is WAY beyond the limits.

DDTrini_Lopez · May 2003

I like the welder as it is . It is meant to repair buildings and armor . It is possible but hard to kill with it . It is not a flamethrower that you can instantly take out to burn out that skulk that is just jumping on you.

criticaI · May 2003

I think its <i>possible</i> that the "switch to weapon upon pickup" effect will no longer bring the welder or a mine pack to the front in v1.1. Things like HMGs, GLs, Shotties would still come to the front I believe.
I've read so many posts on these boards its hard to keep track of, but I think I remember that being posted about a long time ago.

Speed_2_Dave · May 2003

um guys? The welder loads slow so that it:
Can't be used as a weapon.
Can't be abused.

Example: 3 heavies, jerry, freddy, and franko, all decked out with HMG welders, are waltzing toward a hive. Jerry gets bitten, freddy whips out his welder and welds him, while jerry and franko shoot the skulk. Jerry starts to reload, freddy whips out his hmg, and is bitten. Jerry stops his reload, whips out his insta-healer, I mean, Welder, heals him, goes back to reloading hmg.

There are serious balance issues if the welder were able to just pop out like a pistol (on-demand). The way it's set up now, you either have it out, or you seriously consider whipping it out when needed, not just for S&G(the last word is giggles, I'll let you figure the first one out on your own).

wiegiemanthegreat · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ May 13 2003, 09:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> "chase the fade down the corridor with your jetpack welding his back"  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Big deal. You had a JP. I did it in HA. That's right. HA. There's a goal for ya. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
(By the way, he was a sucky newb and was asking "whits the point of acid rocket". I swear: <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>::fade:: )

include · May 2003

I remember I was welding a res tower...suddely we were rushed. I figured I was gonna die so I kept welding the RT. Well, two skulks went for the RT and I ended up killing them both at the same time with the welder (I never even moved). so now...I have this.

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ May 13 2003, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ May 13 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> that pause is the killer for another reason too, guy in front with welder dies, you run over welder. Pick welder up. Switch to welder automatically. Die. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
oh that pisses me off so much iwhen it happens to me while fighting an alien <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
<img src='http://mii.to/images/MeTooWhite.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

UnderDOG · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ May 13 2003, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ May 13 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> that pause is the killer for another reason too, guy in front with welder dies, you run over welder. Pick welder up. Switch to welder automatically. Die. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
oh that pisses me off so much iwhen it happens to me while fighting an alien <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
in 1.1 this is no longer a problem <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

CplDavis · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ May 14 2003, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ May 13 2003, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ May 13 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> that pause is the killer for another reason too, guy in front with welder dies, you run over welder. Pick welder up. Switch to welder automatically. Die. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
oh that pisses me off so much iwhen it happens to me while fighting an alien <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
in 1.1 this is no longer a problem <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
THANK YOU GOD! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

The Welder

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