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Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14178Members
Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14178Members
Why don't more servors support this application. Using the All Seeing Eye, when I require Cheating Death on a servor, only 4 tops, servors remain that are playable.
So why aren't more servors requiring cheating death? It's only a 200 kb download for clients, so 56k'ers shouldn't have a problem.
It really deters cheating, and I found that on the servors that do require it, the players on it are very team play oriented, which makes a better game. And it gives you a chance to show your skills without being accused of using a hax.
Can someone explain why only a few servors support cheating death?
So why aren't more servors requiring cheating death? It's only a 200 kb download for clients, so 56k'ers shouldn't have a problem.
It really deters cheating, and I found that on the servors that do require it, the players on it are very team play oriented, which makes a better game. And it gives you a chance to show your skills without being accused of using a hax.
Can someone explain why only a few servors support cheating death?
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How about giving cd users a higher priority? i.e. kick players not using cd if a cd user wants to join a full server.
I also run in optional mode, but I run a CD-moderator plugin for AdminMod/logD. It tracks your kills/deaths and when you hit 10 kills it checks your kill/death ratio to see if you're good or if you suck. If you're good, it buries you in the floor, explains what CD is, where it is on your system, how to run it and asks you to please run it and then come back. It also does this with the VOX voice, so you get to listen too. Then it kicks the player. It also does this when you hit a total of 30 kills, whether you're good or not.
It also keeps track of who it's required to use CD and makes sure they are when they connect.
But that's why I don't show up on your scans for "CD Required"... cause I moderate requirement.
not nice. Even those who have it get another copy put in a funny place - and some would be too clueless to find it there anyway. You'd be better off dumping a "Get_Cheating-Death.html" file there instead.
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The zipped file is only 22k, and it's whereabouts are announced at the consgreet, at the "You are now required to run it" announcement, and repeatedly during the game (only to people who are not running it)
I've had quite a few people tell me that they were playing, got kicked, and because of the messages and the file, just installed it and came right back. Before I had it in he res files, people would get kicked and never come back.
In my experience, it's a good thing. Perhaps the people I get on my server are just less of a clueless monkey than the average CS player. Either way, that's the way it's set up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> And because of that, more and more people are installing it every day.
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Never mind, I just noticed the IP in your sig, problem solved.
Your server IS a "c-d req" server for all intents and purposes, so it would be nice to say so openly in the title. I wouldn't appreciate being surprised by silly little punishments only after meeting a certain ratio. I like servers that state their rules and requirements honestly BEFORE I play there or even connect to them.
Your server IS a "c-d req" server for all intents and purposes, so it would be nice to say so openly in the title. I wouldn't appreciate being surprised by silly little punishments only after meeting a certain ratio. I like servers that state their rules and requirements honestly BEFORE I play there or even connect to them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Most servers that run CD in optional mode use some form of Mediator-style plugin to compliment it. This should surprise no one with any CD experience at all, especially those good enough to trigger Mediator.
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Never mind, I just noticed the IP in your sig, problem solved.
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First of all, relax,
second, it a 22kb file, and its only dl'd once if its not there(or overwritten if it is) even on dial up 22k takes seconds to dl, apparntly because you didn't notice before he told you(given you played here) Personaly i have no problems with CD, it stops the whiners, and seems to improve the quality of gameplay. I know it itsn't an endall solution for cheating, but its a deterant. Not to mention that both ASE and HLSW have options that will start CD automaticly when connecting to a server that runs it(even in optional mode) and turn it off when you exit the game.
Bottom line (IMHO) is that cd is such a small proggy(dl wise and to run) that there really isn't a reason to run it unless of course you are cheating. In which case you deserve to die of food poisoning after being shot in each foot, and hung upside down by rusty hooks throu the wounds.
If it bothers you that much, do what you stated, and play elsewhere, where you run a better chance of finding someone who cheats. Don't blame the admin for keeping his server clean.
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Normally i wouldn't agree with putting things on peoples hard drive, however if the person is given ample notice, its "doable" depending on the situation. Here i feel that it is appropraite
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Except of course for the fact that trying to connect to a non-CD server with CD running causes a quit straight to the desktop.
Except of course for the fact that trying to connect to a non-CD server with CD running causes a quit straight to the desktop.
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well as far as ASE goes, it only launches CD if the server is running it(optional or required) and will turn it off when you leave the server. I've also been told that HLSW works in a simmilar manner(althou i don't use it personally)
I set CD optional for about a week or two, most people, even many of the regulars and a couple of admins DIDN'T put CD on immediately/ I gave repeated warnings that it would be required "soon", and when I did set it to required, everyone went to get it and I've not found a reduction in players *at all* since. I like it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just one server op's experience of CD.
A well adminned server with CD is (probably) better protected than a well adminned server without it. On occasions the mines (or CD) fails, the admins are there to do the donkey work, which is what we're all used to and quite competent at.
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Except of course for the fact that trying to connect to a non-CD server with CD running causes a quit straight to the desktop. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You mean VAC-enabled servers, of which there are zero running NS, ja?
Anyway, I use hlla now, and it warns me if I don't have CD running when need it.
You can connect non-CD servers just fine with C-D client running. Only VAC servers can't be connected.
It's not as popular as some other german servers (servers everybody knows here), but since most of the regulars on our server are Clan-Players they should have no problem with CD, because this is required in clanmatches.
-my2cent-
Hyper
In the busy hours we have had no real reduction in numbers. It's the quiet times that will be the big test. It's also in these quiet times that we have the most trouble with suspect players too.
When I play on any non CoFR servers, my own preference is for CD servers. It's all good as far as I am concerned. Some people specifically look for CD servers, and I think these are the types of people I would want to play on the server anyway.