Vent Camping
lickitsbabe
Join Date: 2003-03-27 Member: 14918Members
Join Date: 2003-03-27 Member: 14918Members
I play on a server that rules against vent camping for marines. I'm curious to why and have posted regarding the issue. I'm also curious how others servers treat this issue or even if they consider it an issue.. thanks in advance to those that respond.
this was my post:I understand that server rules state "no vent camping" for marines. could someone explain why this is. So clarify this.
Does that include "red room" setting up comm chair? and a base?
We can't vent camp yet we can get stuck there cuz of webbing and being attacked and be accused of vent camping.
Why do we have vents ?
I feel that all parts of the map are held for stradegy purposes. On another personal note I do not understand why if I'm a marine waiting for resources to build or position for attack why hiding in a vent would be offensive. I feel its the same as alien cloaking (just staying out of enemy site) Even if there is a stat **** that stays there the aliens have means to defend themselves from it occurring such as 'webs' from any vent attacks.
I'm not questioning the decision that Caucasian has made I would just like clarification to understand the reason that iit should be a server policy.
However i do feel its unnecessary to vent camp when your last man standing, although others just find other hiding places.. shouldnt that be just as offensive ?
the server is www.elasticalgomez.com
lick_its_babe
this was my post:I understand that server rules state "no vent camping" for marines. could someone explain why this is. So clarify this.
Does that include "red room" setting up comm chair? and a base?
We can't vent camp yet we can get stuck there cuz of webbing and being attacked and be accused of vent camping.
Why do we have vents ?
I feel that all parts of the map are held for stradegy purposes. On another personal note I do not understand why if I'm a marine waiting for resources to build or position for attack why hiding in a vent would be offensive. I feel its the same as alien cloaking (just staying out of enemy site) Even if there is a stat **** that stays there the aliens have means to defend themselves from it occurring such as 'webs' from any vent attacks.
I'm not questioning the decision that Caucasian has made I would just like clarification to understand the reason that iit should be a server policy.
However i do feel its unnecessary to vent camp when your last man standing, although others just find other hiding places.. shouldnt that be just as offensive ?
the server is www.elasticalgomez.com
lick_its_babe
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So all the admin is saying is don't cheat.
this was my post:I understand that server rules state "no vent camping" for marines. could someone explain why this is. So clarify this.
Does that include "red room" setting up comm chair? and a base?
We can't vent camp yet we can get stuck there cuz of webbing and being attacked and be accused of vent camping.
Why do we have vents ?
I feel that all parts of the map are held for stradegy purposes. On another personal note I do not understand why if I'm a marine waiting for resources to build or position for attack why hiding in a vent would be offensive. I feel its the same as alien cloaking (just staying out of enemy site) Even if there is a stat **** that stays there the aliens have means to defend themselves from it occurring such as 'webs' from any vent attacks.
I'm not questioning the decision that Caucasian has made I would just like clarification to understand the reason that iit should be a server policy.
However i do feel its unnecessary to vent camp when your last man standing, although others just find other hiding places.. shouldnt that be just as offensive ?
the server is www.elasticalgomez.com
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well, your first part is understandable, then I can't translate what you meant to well.. I'll try to reply as well as I can.
Server rules are made by server admins/owners, they get to call the shots, it's their server.
That said, if you don't like a server's rules or modifications, don't go there.
As for vent camping, I have been playing NS since release, and only recently discovered how to even hit a marine camping in a vent correctly. That said, I think it's fairly obvious why someone might make rules up about marines sitting in a vent killing anything that comes at them. I would agree with this server policy if the addendum "at the end of a game." No marine ping of death means the endgame can take up to 5 minutes longer than if that one lone camping marine had died, or if his team had bothered to F4 (which most people are against, but I don't want to get into that, I'd start flaming)
Hope that helps!
I didnt understand the hitbox deal.. so that is a good reason.. Will that be fixed in 1.1 or whatever "." we are going to be at?
I understand the owner/admin makes the rules and I do not question his authority .. I just wondered what possess someone to make the stadegy vents provide unavailable.
By the way .. This game is a blast!
Babe
Ps to Redfords post.. i agree with you on that..
thanks again
If it was a problem with the marine hitboxes, fade acid rockets would go right through marines in vents more often than not, and the fact that they don't shows that their hitbox is fairly accurate for all but bugged skulk bites.
The only problem with vents at the moment are vents that give line of fire to hives like noname nancy and satcomm tanith, this is retarded map design as it is exceptionally difficult to save your hive at these locations.
easily the worst example of this is Cargo in ns_nothing. Its really irritating to have THE most important hive in the level downed by a jp/hmg-er who is protected by the vent bug. Worse, entering from the other side of the vent, the hivesight of the hive blocks out your vision, making that marine -that- much harder to kill.
Is there a solution to hitboxes and is it being considered ?
BABE