A Question About Exploits
Faustus
Join Date: 2003-04-25 Member: 15834Members
Join Date: 2003-04-25 Member: 15834Members
Hello everyone. This is my first time posting after a long time reading. I have a quick question, and then another question which should eliminate any further questions.
I apologize if this was previously answered, but I've never seen it and the search function is returning a 404 error kind of thing for me. My question is about the identification of an exploit. I was in a server called G.I. Joehosephat's when it occurred to me that I don't ever see anyone use leap. So I bound two easily reachable keys to slot1 and slot3 of my weapons menus, and found that through hitting them in the correct order and lots of left clicking I could leap and follow up with bites.
Then I was banned.
Basically what I want to ask is was that really an exploit? If I were to do the same as a marine, and rotate between lmg and a pistol, I'd be an idiot, not a cheater. How can one avoid further angering server admins in general if it's impossible to know what is and isn't? Is there a list avaliable anywhere that would include all of the current "exploits"? I realize it may not exist because it would prompt players to use them.
Trial and error is certainly not the way to go however, admins tend to ban easily and without warning. I don't blame them, I probably would too if I put down the effort to host a server.
Thank you for reading and your answers.
I apologize if this was previously answered, but I've never seen it and the search function is returning a 404 error kind of thing for me. My question is about the identification of an exploit. I was in a server called G.I. Joehosephat's when it occurred to me that I don't ever see anyone use leap. So I bound two easily reachable keys to slot1 and slot3 of my weapons menus, and found that through hitting them in the correct order and lots of left clicking I could leap and follow up with bites.
Then I was banned.
Basically what I want to ask is was that really an exploit? If I were to do the same as a marine, and rotate between lmg and a pistol, I'd be an idiot, not a cheater. How can one avoid further angering server admins in general if it's impossible to know what is and isn't? Is there a list avaliable anywhere that would include all of the current "exploits"? I realize it may not exist because it would prompt players to use them.
Trial and error is certainly not the way to go however, admins tend to ban easily and without warning. I don't blame them, I probably would too if I put down the effort to host a server.
Thank you for reading and your answers.
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And a quick note: Use the search feature at the bottom right of the page, not the clickable one up top. They should just like... remove/disable that button...
That server is extremely testy and I've seen lots of people banned for extremely silly reasons, I was mostly afraid I'd try Leap Biting some more, and get banned from a real nice server like Vadakill's.
Thank you so much for the search info, that one works for me.
OMG SPEED HAX! Hehehe....
Don't know, maybe they're motd said you weren't allowed to use leap or something. Run into a couple servers that say you can't use sieges and...fades. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that out.
As far as leaping and biting in the air, no, it's not an exploit, you just got a bad server. Even a leap-bite script isn't exploiting all though it is IMO more trouble than it is worth.
Is "biting through thing floors/grates" officially considered an exploit?
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Ah man, I've got a very similar story.
Last December, after my family, grandmother, and I had finished eating at Lazlow's, a pretty decent restraunt in Omaha, NE, we had decided we'd go see great Grandpa in the old folk's home. So, as we were driving down the interstate to the old folk's home that was located just a few miles out of town, I had the nearly uncontrollable urge to take a crap. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I was living a private hell for about 5 minutes as I tried to hold it as long as possible, and being inside my father's new company car, I knew I couldn't let it go right then in there. So, I started to make grunting noises in the back seat. That seemed to get everyone's attention, and look at me. I believe at that time, my eyes were watering and whatnot, and they were sure something was wrong. I told them I had to take the biggest dump in the world. So, we pulled over the side of the road and I ran up the hill and into a farmer's corn field. Mind you, this was December in the plains states, and it was a pretty frosty day. I ran for a little while, holding it the best I could all the way, and luckily found a badger hole! I was so impressed with myself and loosened by belt and had the nicest dump of my life. It was like a religious experience. Not only did I have a nice dump, but I also learned about the badger's natural habitat.
As for a leap-biting script, I'm not sure how that is possible, but I do have one idea I was tempted to try implementing. I'd like to try binding <u>one</u> key to switch between the two menus instead of two keys with one to each menu. Basically to simulate a "invnext" that skips unwanted skills. That's the whole reason I have the hotkeys in the first place, because parasite would gum up the works if I just mousewheeled to switch.
Would that be too automated? Sorry to keep throwing out silly questions here, but I get worried because it seems like one of those moral discussions that has no real bold line. I do think that stuff like people who set up that pistol to the mouse wheel thing is an exploit, but is accelerated menu switching an exploit as well?
I suppose there probably are no concrete answers, thank you for answering what of my question you can. It's good not to feel like a criminal for mid-air-biting like I did 10 minutes ago . <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
this isnt an actual exploit, its technically know as switching weapons, hence should be considered fair game.
there are 2 leap exploits out there, ones a secret ;D, and one is to do with the damage that leap inflicts per tick (amounting to a hefty sum if you can keep it on the target for the whole leap).
Oh yeah, I forgot. Leap <b>isn't</b> a touch attack. How silly of me.
I had no idea it was tick based, I always wondered why I never seemed to do any damage with the silly ability. I only use it in this little technique as a way to move around quicky. Bringing this post horribly off topic, how should leap be aimed then? Should one leap by the marines? Over them? Directly into them at close range? UP THEIR BUMS?
PS, this is very aggrivating and annoying to the marines especially when they waste there lmg/shotty/hmg and pistol on you n have to reload >=D mwuahah
I've had an experience..just today to be exact, where there was a gorg that I could not kill. I was a jp hmg and he was a lvl 3 carapace celerity gorg..I was blasting him and blasting him, then reloaded. Then i started blasting him more, he then ran away and I chased him down, I emptied another clip into him. Apon pulling my pistol I was healsprayed for my final bit of health. That sucked very badly.
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To answer your question..... maybe.
On most servers I'd say that it isn't considered as much, as it isn't some tactic that can be used to gain advantage. However, it could be. I consider it a game flaw, and therefore an exploit. Anything that gains an advantage that wasn't meant to is an exploit. This falls under the "exploit" category I just defined, so I guess it is an exploit.
Of course, others probably have different thoughts on what an exploit is, so I'll just leave it at that. Bottom line, you can be banned for using it without the admin being abusive, so avoid it if you like the server.
As far as the weapon switching thing.... not an exploit in my opinion. I don't like scripts, but switching weapons manually isn't a script. So no, this isn't even remotely an exploit.
it had an auto-detect leapscript detection on the server... and we had one hive... in the button-mashing paracite/bit switching i switched between bite and leep so many time, it triggered the exploit finder, and banned me...for something built into Half life...
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Ah man, I've got a very similar story.
Last December, after my family, grandmother, and I had finished eating at Lazlow's, a pretty decent restraunt in Omaha, NE, we had decided we'd go see great Grandpa in the old folk's home. So, as we were driving down the interstate to the old folk's home that was located just a few miles out of town, I had the nearly uncontrollable urge to take a crap. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I was living a private hell for about 5 minutes as I tried to hold it as long as possible, and being inside my father's new company car, I knew I couldn't let it go right then in there. So, I started to make grunting noises in the back seat. That seemed to get everyone's attention, and look at me. I believe at that time, my eyes were watering and whatnot, and they were sure something was wrong. I told them I had to take the biggest dump in the world. So, we pulled over the side of the road and I ran up the hill and into a farmer's corn field. Mind you, this was December in the plains states, and it was a pretty frosty day. I ran for a little while, holding it the best I could all the way, and luckily found a badger hole! I was so impressed with myself and loosened by belt and had the nicest dump of my life. It was like a religious experience. Not only did I have a nice dump, but I also learned about the badger's natural habitat. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
and that relates how.....
and yeah, some of the serves kick you for no reason, thats why you become a reg at trustworth servers! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thanks to well placed OC ambush!
On another note, I was playing on the same server just a few days ago, maybe a week, G.I. Joehosephat's, yes, they are very strict about cheating, one time I gorged and put a D chamber under an elevator and almost got banned, said I was sorry and didnt know. But then just recently, I was playing on the aliens again, and we were about to kill all of the marines becaue they had moved to a hive. So right when I had the spawn portal down to red, all of the aliens blew up. I asked what had happened and the commander told me he had done it since he was an adim. I said that was pretty stuid, consider your server is suppose to be very against cheating and exploits, and then he just banned me. Pretty cool. If I were you, I would never play on G.I. Joehosephat's stay away from it, its a horrible place with horrible people with admin powers.
If it's just airing dirty laundry, much as I may like to hear about servers to avoid, these forums are NOT the place to do it.