Another Take On Mines

severijnseverijn Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11049Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Time for some fun...</div> You guys are propably gonna say I'm crazy, but...who knows.
Today I've played a game and the comm was spamming with mines at our base.
As normal, we placed the mines all over the place, but he spammed too much so I was going with my team with an LMG and a bunch of mines. Now, this is what I did. We located a potential target to destroy. Their seconds RT. I was given the order to knife it while my friends guarded me. But it wasn't truly save, so I placed my mines on the RT. What happened? the alien skulks came and charged us, but they got destroyed by my mines beacause they wanted me first! Next, they retreated.
Another time not so much later that game I got more mines and this time, I was alone. Alll my friends were fighting in a certain corridor. I rushed to them and asked if they wanted to cover me. They all had like 10% ammo left in their rifle but they guarded me. Next, I placed the mines on the wall and the ground and on the ceiling. The skulks had to retreat again cause they couldn't get near us. We killed their attacking party with no casualties on our site. This also made a nice roadblock.
Maybe this might get handy for all of you.
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  • ForfeitForfeit Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12054Members
    Using mines as an ofensive weapon is great. For example.

    You are building that TF that is going to build a Siege to kill that hive. Instead of using sentrys, you just toss some mines and tell the marines do use it to protect the TF. So the TF is protected and the team have some time to finish that siege without being atacked.

    Also you can use it to protect your troops when they are atacking a hive with hmg or lmg. In eclipse, for example, you can send the marines to the main hive and tell them to block the upper entrance of the hive with mines and shoot it from behind the mines.

    The enemies that try to reach the marines get blow in the mines. Of course you should never use mines when the enemies have fades.
  • NightCrawlerzNightCrawlerz Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15609Members
    you can also use a pack of mines to distroy a RT you place them so that the beam intersecpts the hit box and the mine will explode like a mini sige cannon. You can also do this to hives. 3 marines with a pack of mines and jps= abot 57 res mines=dead hive.
  • evilopsevilops Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13494Members
    Except in actual fact mines do next to no dmg to buildings and that 3 packs would more like 30 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • severijnseverijn Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11049Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Except in actual fact mines do next to no dmg to buildings and that 3 packs would more like 30  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually I'm not very sure about it, but still are these things usefull in the offense, for a wall that can't be penetrated by skulks. The very fun part of mining enemy RT while knifing is that they don't expect it. God, those aliens were **** on me.
  • NightCrawlerzNightCrawlerz Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15609Members
    if you dont belive me that mines do damage to buildiongs just test it. it does the same type of damage as a gren launcher. does dubble vs structures.
  • NzENzE Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8736Members
    yeah theres are tons of offensive uses for mines <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> just have to be careful you dont get killed by them when a skulk gets fragged.
    how do you damage a structure with a mine when they dont detonate on structures?
  • ForfeitForfeit Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12054Members
    Also a great way of using mines is to place them on opening doors or elevators. When the mine moves, it blows.
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    i like putting mines on dc's and just randomly around corners in the middle of the map where people would never expect.. and it works a treat
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--NightCrawler.+Apr 18 2003, 07:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Apr 18 2003, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you dont belive me that mines do damage to buildiongs just test it. it does the same type of damage as a gren launcher. does dubble vs structures. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Night crawler.. ur wrong.. mines do next to nothing against structures.. hince why clans sometimes put mines by all structures.
  • ShadowicsShadowics Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7652Members
    Actually, mines do damage structures. When Marines use mines to defend the building in their base they are defending against skulks. Why? Because each skulk will only set of one mine at a time - Killing the skulk and doing much less damage to the structure than the skulk would have. But take a Fade a acid rocket the mines. The damage from all the mines exploding at once is not small by any means and will cause massive destruction.

    As a person who usually plays alien I love it when marines load up on mines. As soon as you get Fades you win, the marines get wiped out by their own explosives.
  • MooManMooMan Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5154Members
    The fact that mines dont damage marine buildings(not sure about aliens) may surprise you.

    Also, take ns_nancy, the aliens have unnamed hive.

    3 people go into the red tunnel thing that accesses the hive room. Mine up the enterance with laser mines, and mine corridor with floor mines. Get the comm to drop you an armory, keep spamming mines every time they get blown up, and keep shooting the hive. This is a tactic to be done right when the game starts, so no lerks or nething. It works wonders, trust me(only on pubs)
  • evilopsevilops Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13494Members
    Yeah just before i made that post i went and checked, the damage mines do to buildings (marine or alien) is quite poor unless there is a LOT of them, I tested on res towers etc. Went through about 20 packs of mines trying to blow up feedwater hive when i was testing... just gave up after a while <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    They ARE handy for when you're knifing res towers, or holding a forward position n stuff.. done the res tower thing a couple of times myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • roachemsroachems Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15148Members
    yea mine rushs.
    if you reall want to strike fear in to the alien's hearts, you send 3 guys, 2 with mines to a alien hive, for example. mainteance. place the mines all aroudn the doors, stand back and shoot it.

    if your lucky and one of you has a hmg, its even better!

    mines are also fking cool , if they have 1 hive, and you want to siege the 2nd one thats goingup. Use mines around the TF. Its hard to pass it out, because some people can be stupid and just place it randomly on the walls. even when you tell them to go to the hive and place it..

    -roachems[AR]
  • Hang_LooseHang_Loose Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7775Members
    Am I the only skulk that has never died to a mine?

    I still can't figure out just how people can claim they are -that- useful...
  • gunnergunner Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6763Members
    ns_caged

    aliens had vent. we took generator.

    At the start of the game we all loved mines. mines everywhere!!! mines all around the base, hives, and for every rt. mines mines mines!! All the structures that had no mines were wiped out, but all the structures with a good minefield around them were safe and happy.

    we decided to go for HA. even tho it was expensive, there would be a nice payoff. aliens took sewer. so the team got suited up. 5 Heavy Armor Suits, hmgs and nade launchers and welders. the HA's gathered around the armory to gather ammo for the attack. We would win. We were determined to win.

    We didnt know any better.

    Enter the Fades.

    Along comes a fade to base. The first thing he does is shoot an acid rocket into the base. just 1 acid rocket. cant do much harm to our large group. but then that acid rocket hit some mines. which, exploded, which caused others to explode, which eventually caused all the mines in base to blow apart in one of the most violent chain reactions ive ever seen.

    all our HA's were now scattered and sprawled around the armory. the whole base was a crater. within the next minute the fades came in wiped everything out, and we lost the game.

    just because of 1 acid rocket, and a passion for mines.
  • severijnseverijn Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11049Members
    The iedea that mines protect bases against totall annihilation is an ILLUSION! Mines should be used as a shield versus skulks. If you wanna defend your base, use turrets!
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    Mine are a double edged sword
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hang Loose+Apr 24 2003, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hang Loose @ Apr 24 2003, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only skulk that has never died to a mine?

    I still can't figure out just how people can claim they are -that- useful... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    they don't need to kill the enemy to be useful, its the fact you can almost completely block enterences to choke points with mines until there is a kamikazi of some sort or an injection of fade/gorge power.

    like i said, i put mines around corners on random parts of the map and because skulks tend to be listening and looking out for marines not always cautious about mines at the top of a random ladder somewhere they are prey and it slows them down/helps a lot i find, but i am not a mine fan in general.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    yeah me n lump like to randomly mine up alien structures <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    haha, good times, mining up dc's is just pure skill
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    If our team has lots and lotsa res and are guaranteed a win, sometimes all we do is build armouries everywhere and get mines and put mines in random places just for fun. Put them in corners put them in vents put them in dark places. Gets fun until the server crashes.
  • FrostyFrosty Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15667Members
    actualy that has a huge amount of potential, mine up all the empry res nodes, it could kill random gorges that try and take rt, at the very least slow there res caping, and we all know its all about the res
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    well a smart gorge would just shoot the mines <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    Has anyone tried putting mines ON the nozzles and waiting for a gorge to place his RT? Would the RT detonate the mine?
  • FrostyFrosty Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15667Members
    can a gorge blow up mines, i thought only fades could shoot a mine
  • Pr0nPr0n Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13592Members
    Yes gorges can totally in every way shape and form detonate mines with their spit attack. Aim above the mines, not at the mines. They can also break certain welds with spit, like the one outside marine main base on bast. Skulks can also parasite some vents, like the one on nothing that leads to the marine spawn, but once again it's map specific.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    pr0nw ins the rant award for useless information <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Yes gorges can blow up mines and its not map specific, just aim slighlty away form the mines resting place and itll blow.
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    Actually I have been getting called with more frequency a "mine spammer" when I comm and aliens call it lame tactics. Instead of building a turret factory, I build an armory and drop tons of mines all around, it works like a charm. It is best done outside the enemy hive.

    For example, if the map was ns_nancy (aliens have Subspace). We would build IPs in base, rush messhall, build an armory there, drop some mines around armory, then drop more mines to take to mother interface (outside of subspace) mine it up and aliens are screwed. While doing this I have a few marines go around the map capping res nodes and voila! we almost have every res node on the map. Oftentimes when I do this I get called a lame comm and get bitched at by the aliens. It is hard to defend against I have to admit and it is very frusturating to play against.

    If your are one of those people who claim to never die to mines and think the mines are useless, you have never experienced the true power of the mine spam. You CANNOT efficiently kill marines when mines litter the floor of the room, its just impossible.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    but of the gorge is good, then your screwed
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Apr 28 2003, 05:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Apr 28 2003, 05:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually I have been getting called with more frequency a "mine spammer" when I comm and aliens call it lame tactics. Instead of building a turret factory, I build an armory and drop tons of mines all around, it works like a charm. It is best done outside the enemy hive.

    For example, if the map was ns_nancy (aliens have Subspace). We would build IPs in base, rush messhall, build an armory there, drop some mines around armory, then drop more mines to take to mother interface (outside of subspace) mine it up and aliens are screwed. While doing this I have a few marines go around the map capping res nodes and voila! we almost have every res node on the map. Oftentimes when I do this I get called a lame comm and get bitched at by the aliens. It is hard to defend against I have to admit and it is very frusturating to play against.

    If your are one of those people who claim to never die to mines and think the mines are useless, you have never experienced the true power of the mine spam. You CANNOT efficiently kill marines when mines litter the floor of the room, its just impossible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm, maybe it is called a lame tactic, because aliens dont have any changes, when you mine spam their starting hive in the early game.

    I mean, why see all that trouble, when you can just relocate in the mother interface and siege the sub down...GG, or then do a tech rush. One skilled jp/hmg marine in the sub and game over. <--- Those are lame tactics and that mine rush of yours can be compared to them.
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