Ns_blackhawk

Black_Hawk_VS · April 2003

Well, that is what I am calling it till I come up with a better name. at the moment I have the marine start and 2 hives done, about to start on the 3rd hive. Here is the basic concept. It is a 5 part Space station, connect by a working automatic train system. The facility is a civilian reserch station with a bit of a secret.....They were researching the Karaa. But now they have gotten lose and taken over the station.

Features
Working two train system
Airlock trap
Seemingly inpenertrable marine start

Here are alot of pics
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/MarineStart0000.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/MarineStart0001.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/MarineStart0002.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/trainstation0000.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/trainstation0001.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/Obshive0000.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/Obshive0001.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/Obshive0002.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Black_Hawk_VS · April 2003

and more pics
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/Obshive0003.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/labhive0005.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/labhive0006.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/labhive0008.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/labhive0009.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Black%20Hawk%202982/labhive0010.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

ChickenOfWar · April 2003

I think its a little too bright in some areas, but its cool. I like the research lab and the Holo Gorge, it's a cool idea. Keep it up.

Lord_Of_The_Pings · April 2003

looks good, but you might want to use the ns textures.
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

emteg · April 2003

the floor in the comproom NEEDS another tex, but the other pics look good! (trains!)

Asraniel · April 2003

looks like a HL map with some hives added... i liked the beginning of the screenshots, but it got worse and worse.. flayra said one time we shouldnt use HL textures(ok, sometimes you have no choice, but try to do it in a way that isnt to visible)
and your hive with the big glass wand looks.. strange? but the idea isnt bad.. but work on it a little bit more(try to imagine it in reality.. who would build such a window?)

Windelkron · April 2003

it's pretty good for the beginnings of a map. you need to get a better texture set (especially those computers, and the glass too)

also a LOT more interesting brushwork around the hive areas. the tram is good, I like it. Just textures, textures.

that stairwell is way too bright.

Tinker · April 2003

I'm no mapper, but as a gamer I think it might be too bright and it definitly needs more textures...but when I was looking at the marine spawn I was impressed

StevenTheGreat · April 2003

the hives look way too jetpack friendly

Emoo · April 2003

the last 9 pics have eathtier way to many half-life texs, too bright or not realistic.

just my opinuin though.

Confused · April 2003

looks like a good start
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again textures:)
the glass texture should be made more transpanet in the ms imo
the walk ways around the hive should be transparent as well(func_wall render mode solid amount 255)

lighting could get more intersting

but yeah looking good

Melatonin · April 2003

again, the hives look way to JP freindly... for 1.04 at least
alot of open spaces in general, might be hard for the aliens.

otherwise, nice concept and some nice ideas in there, the 'hive study area' could be really cool!
just make sure that the conceptual ideas dont conflict with 'smooth gameplay'

anyway, keep it up and good luck! ;D

exoity · April 2003

The hives look VERY boring.

RPGreg2600 · April 2003

Looks like you have some places the comm won't be able to see... Like that stair well, he won't be able to see the lower stairs, and in the first pic he won't be able to see on the other side of that door.

Black_Hawk_VS · April 2003

I would love to use better textures for my map, but at the moment, that is the best I can do. The regular NS textrues do not have many good lab style textures for me. If anyone has/knows of/or would like to make some textures, I would be very thankful.

As for the room with the big window, that is ment to be an observation lounge. I am going to change those walls, and the shape of the window, but I am keeping the size. It is a fun thing that I wanted, so I am keeping that

As for the areas that can not be seen, That picture is of just one side of the marine start, and the other side is identical (Except for the objects in the room). Over all it becomes a very small are that you can not see in the com view, and in the little testing we have done, it is not much of a problem.

Keep the advice comming, I will take all I can get!

TommyVercetti · April 2003

Mmm... Delicious. Just needs a few more textures, and definitely some extra architechture (computer monitors in the tram room, cables and pipes in corridors, etc.) and it will be a sure download for me!

Jezpuh · April 2003

Nice marines spawn.
I'm impressed. But take away thoose black chairs in the 2nd pic, it's dusn't look nice or "futuristic" and it'll will annoy some people too.

Hmm, observation hive.
They both look like observation hives.

But I assume you mean that big room.
Hmm. Make some alien style walls, the room is property of the aliens, maybe flayra made their brains so they respect others properties (and rooms <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>) but I think they'll infest there, do creepy alien stuff and such.

The computer/lab room.
No, sorry, to ugly, work on this, really.
Change the floor too, scientist aren't hard-core marines that fight to rough area's with steel and alien slim everywhere. Make it a nice scientist atmosphere. (if u know what I mean)

The stairs.
Argh, to bright!

Tram room.
Perfect.

The hive with a walkway obove a walkway.
Hmm, use more textures.
Fill it too, it looks so empty, so jp friendly.

And it's so good too, the rails, the floors.
Make some piece of ripped of rails, and put it on the floor to make it look like some alien did this.
The light isn't perfect yet.
Once again, create an alien atmosphere.

I hope this helps you.

If you can, and if you let me, I can help you with playtesting.
PM me.

Ns_blackhawk

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