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Good point actually.
I'd say probably yes, as I can't see them bothering to remove it, and just make it a global upgrade across all marine damage amounts. Quite worrying really, because how much damage would a level 3 knife do?
lvl 3 weapons isn't a global damage upgrade though - they only added in mines and grenades to the list of weapons that are affected by upgrades in this version. AFAIK the knife has never been upgradeable, but it would be nice if someone proved me wrong...
/goes off to think about 20-damage knife stabs doing 60% extra at lvl 3... heeheehee pwned by teh knife
Then I think you'll love the new Knifle. Knife Rifle, that is. Oh, it makes for some pretty intense games! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--RPGreg2600+Apr 24 2003, 01:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RPGreg2600 @ Apr 24 2003, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are they adding any new weapons? Like maybe a new pistol that can be dropped?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't think so. Maybe a flamethrower in the future, but certainly not in the next version.
And you *can* drop your pistol (I got your point <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
<!--QuoteBegin--Cypher_2k3+Apr 24 2003, 11:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cypher_2k3 @ Apr 24 2003, 11:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> /goes off to think about 20-damage knife stabs doing 60% extra at lvl 3... heeheehee pwned by teh knife <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wouldnt that be an extra 30% Damage, im pretty sure the upgrades are cumulative, i know the armor ones arnt
Because there is seriously nothing funnyer then welding up the abse when some skulk drops by and heads right for you - and all you do then is duck and wait for them to walk into your welder. More often then not its instagiv - ehehe. But with UPGRADED WELDER omg, hive welding would get a new meaning!
<!--QuoteBegin--SecretFire+Apr 24 2003, 10:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SecretFire @ Apr 24 2003, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even if it was effected by weapon upgrades, it would only go from 30 damage to 39...not really a huge difference. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Big enough to make the difference between 3 or 2 hits to kill a skulk.
Eh, I don't know about this idea, I think its quite powerful already, but then again, if you get weapons 3, its late enough that you'll need that extra damage
<!--QuoteBegin--JediYoshi+Apr 24 2003, 10:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Apr 24 2003, 10:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There needs to be added to the knife:
grenade launcher
sight
scope
extra knife
small firearm <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Definitely. While your at it, don't forget the built-in jet pack, flame thrower, samauri sword, kitchen sink, and extra knife (in case you drop the first one).
How about a gun that shoots knifes? Or a serious suggestion, how about making the knife throwable <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Wow, this thread degenerated into idiocy rather quickly. On a side note, to answer the original question -> The knife is unaffected by weapon upgrades, and the welder is similarly unaffected.
This can be easily tested, just go into a LAN game with a friend and see how much one knife slash does to a skulk with and without upgrades. Full upgrades does nothing to improve the effectiveness of a knife slash.
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I'd say probably yes, as I can't see them bothering to remove it, and just make it a global upgrade across all marine damage amounts. Quite worrying really, because how much damage would a level 3 knife do?
Where's Kitsune when we want him?
/goes off to think about 20-damage knife stabs doing 60% extra at lvl 3... heeheehee pwned by teh knife
Might try making one in real life tho, would be a change on the air rifle theme...
I don't think so. Maybe a flamethrower in the future, but certainly not in the next version.
And you *can* drop your pistol (I got your point <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
wouldnt that be an extra 30% Damage, im pretty sure the upgrades are cumulative, i know the armor ones arnt
Because there is seriously nothing funnyer then welding up the abse when some skulk drops by and heads right for you - and all you do then is duck and wait for them to walk into your welder. More often then not its instagiv - ehehe. But with UPGRADED WELDER omg, hive welding would get a new meaning!
Big enough to make the difference between 3 or 2 hits to kill a skulk.
grenade launcher
sight
scope
extra knife
small firearm
grenade launcher
sight
scope
extra knife
small firearm <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Definitely. While your at it, don't forget the built-in jet pack, flame thrower, samauri sword, kitchen sink, and extra knife (in case you drop the first one).
Or a serious suggestion, how about making the knife throwable <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
The knife is unaffected by weapon upgrades, and the welder is similarly unaffected.
This can be easily tested, just go into a LAN game with a friend and see how much one knife slash does to a skulk with and without upgrades. Full upgrades does nothing to improve the effectiveness of a knife slash.