How To Indentify A N00b In Forums

cybranglcybrangl Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11605Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Place some unrelated description here</div> I found an easy way to identify n00bs on the forums (and attract flames to boot!):

If the person is dead set on one strategy, you can bet they have little real gameplay experience in NS. I don't care how well you do this strategy, if you haven't figured out how to adapt, you don't understand the game. NS has vast possibilities for divergence, yet we see the same arguments time and again.
Of course, there are many reasons that account for what works and does not work:

1) Team experience. The experience level of the players and commander, if marine, can alter plan immensely. I have seen complete novices kick some clanners butts because they didn't KNOW they needed to do x,y and z to counter the uber rush. They just flailed around and won.

2) Mindset. Many people get into a mindset that X,Y and Z are the way to win, so they waste valuable time and resources to win that way. Alternatively, the opposing team usually has the mindset that they need to do A,B and C to counter it. It's amazing what something new can do for people who play with this mindset.

3) Map specific wins. Sometime there are certain strats that work very well one map, but not another. Toss those same teams into a unknown map and watch them flail like newbies.

I could go on, but I think many of you get my point. Anyone who says that X,Y and Z is the only way to win, or that by doing D,E and F you will never win has no idea how this game really works. If you are unwilling to try new things, I ceremoniously appoint you an honorary n00b.
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  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    edited April 2003
    Also when people talk about how much skill they have. TALK being the keyword. When people have to mention that their "skillz" are amazing all the time, its like they do not have any as well. Or when they constantly brag about some strat that they come up with.

    Basically it says it all in my sig. Because quite frankly, some of the posts people post, I just shake my head, because i've seen them play, and they are very little if any of what they say they are.

    People need to act more and talk less.

    Actually, when people talk and do not deliver, they are scrubs, not n00bs, I apologize.
  • roqaliciousroqalicious Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11981Members
  • cybranglcybrangl Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11605Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--pandas|RoQ+Apr 21 2003, 02:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pandas|RoQ @ Apr 21 2003, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I <3 u. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Anyone have a translation? Left my leet speek to English dictionary in my other armor <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LitanyLitany Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8043Members
    But since this is the Strategy board and not the 'let's bash the newbies' board, do you have any advice that might help all those who you consider to be newbies? Hmm?
  • UntitledUntitled Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13348Members
    noobs are the "back seat drivers" of the game. they tell the commander waht to do. it should be teh other way.

    noobs are the ppl with a different agenda on mind from what the rest of teh team is doing.

    noobs are the ppl who demand weapons instead of proving that they are worthy of holding a hmg

    tehy are also the ones who hide in the corner when the base is under atk
  • cybranglcybrangl Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11605Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Litany+Apr 21 2003, 02:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Litany @ Apr 21 2003, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But since this is the Strategy board and not the 'let's bash the newbies' board, do you have any advice that might help all those who you consider to be newbies? Hmm? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry, thought it was obvious.. yes.. when you are commander, try new things.. when you are marine, listen to the commander, even if it is different that what you are used to.
    So you loose a few games.. no biggie. I will guantee you will loose you you consider the commander a n00b as soon as he doesn't do what YOU wanted, so you begin to ignore the commander. If you break the chain of command, YOU are the reason the team lost, not the commander.
    If you are so obsessed with winning that you can't enjoy the game, I advise you seek professional council.
  • roachemsroachems Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15148Members
    well put

    <3 = heart


    - roachems[AR]
  • ChuchumanquiqChuchumanquiq Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15560Members
    ... and they start useless threads to up their post count.

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ObliteraterObliterater Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9652Members
    A newbie is the guy who goes where I tell him to but gets lost and eaten on the way.

    A n00b is the guy who begs for HMG's while I am screaming at him to go through the phase gate cuz refinery is going to die in 12.83 seconds. After that he vote kicks me because they have two hives, and then says bad words at me until we vote kick him.

    Oh yea BTW I<3 u means "I am less then 3 of you", usualy people say I>3u which means "I am greater then 3 of you"
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    Am I the only one that feels Firewaters statement is crushingly ironic?
  • sejsej Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12488Members
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    ah well <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LitanyLitany Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8043Members
  • DoADrunkMonkeyDoADrunkMonkey Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11902Members
    anyone else have an unbearble urge to say the alphabet ?
    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->... errrr <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->, never mind <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->


    is what ur saying is that you have to change what youre going to do, to suit what you need in the heat of battle, not what you organised in the strategy before hand?
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Zig - Play nice. Or I'll have to play as BADLY as the other night again.
  • PodPod Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5745Members
    How To Indentify A N00b In Forums : they post in frontiersmen stratergy forums when thier post is vaguley releated to "frontiersmen" and has **** all to do with stratergy
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Apr 22 2003, 07:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 22 2003, 07:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Zig - Play nice. Or I'll have to play as BADLY as the other night again. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When was that? I really cant remember late night ns ever lol
  • cybranglcybrangl Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11605Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pod+Apr 22 2003, 08:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pod @ Apr 22 2003, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How To Indentify A N00b In Forums : they post in frontiersmen stratergy forums when thier post is vaguley releated to "frontiersmen" and has **** all to do with stratergy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah, but it DOES relate. I simply got tired of everyone posting the "correct" stratagies, thus my response. Of course, flamers are welcome, I have to heat up my Spaghetti-Os somehow.
  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--ZiGGY^+Apr 21 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Apr 21 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one that feels Firewaters statement is crushingly ironic? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just how is it ironic?
  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
    I think they're saying you suck or something hehe
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--FireWater+Apr 22 2003, 11:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FireWater @ Apr 22 2003, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--ZiGGY^+Apr 21 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Apr 21 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one that feels Firewaters statement is crushingly ironic? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just how is it ironic? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Its just so ironic that your name has fire in it and...fire can post in forums? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> OMG HAX LOLZ that make no sense TBH. Oh wait, you want me to explain it, is it reeeeally necessary?
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    just to break all this up so it doesnt turn into a flaming contest, what you're describing aren't "n00bs" they're "idiots".

    People who disobey the commander, get eaten a lot, ask for weapons all the time, but dont KNOW THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO are n00bs

    People who disobey the commander because they think they know better, get eaten cos they go off on their own to attack the hive, ask for weapons because they're "Uber "elite" with teh HMG!!!!!111", vote kick the comm cos he didnt drop him a MedPack while he was trying to knife an offence chamber etc, those are idiots.

    N00bs need to learn, and will probably learn fast

    Idiots don't want to learn, and probably never will
  • leekleek Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13042Members
    oh u mean like when im comming on tanith give whole team a way point to chem transport and all of them go to waste and get eaten?

    the main problem is not enough ns players read this board .. hey if they all did we wouldnt have much to moan about
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    my point wasnt about skill level or anything, ill try to expand on the point (oooh, big words <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
    Im relativly new to the boards, which makes me technicly a n00b on them. Say i get into an argument with someone on here, and do sommat stupid like insult their mom (i try not to do this anyway, but just for sake of argument), and their mother died 2 weeks ago. It would be an honest mistake, something that i didnt know about at all, and i would learn not to do it again.

    But say someone who KNEW that persons mom was dead, but insulted her anyway, THAT is an idiot (hell, stronger words could be used but they would be *'d out)

    I hope everyone gets my point, you were new once, took you a while to get used to tracking those Skulks and stuff, so give em a break
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    That's actually a problem with Tanith.

    If you place a WP to some locations (the worst is RR.) on Tanith, because of the way the entrance is over to the right, it actually <b>looks</b> like the quickest way is through the left-most exit (towards Waste Handling)

    Only occurs if the players don't know the map very well. But they have to know it VERY well to realise you actually mean RR, as they'd have to pay attention to the distance to wp indicator.

    X_Stickman : I see where you're coming from, but unfortunately, in practise it doesn't work quite like that, as there are certain contraventions you should expect anyone with an IQ (Not a rating, just having one should be a requirement) should be able to follow.
  • leekleek Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13042Members
    no they really did walk the opposite way to the wp trust me
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    then they're not true n00bs, they're just plain idiots <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    actualy, talking about n00bness in NS, when everyone first saw an onos (for the very first time) what did you try and do? with me it was:
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
    as for when i WAS an onos for the first time... well, i ran into a base, got no kills and got stuck on some turrets and got knifed to death, but the less said about that the better <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Twilight_WolfTwilight_Wolf Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10410Members
    n00b = The pre-mature form of a gamer/player.

    Why do most people tend to forget, that we where all n00bs at some point?
    Of course I get angry about once a day, because one or more n00b made my team loose (or at least didn't do a thing to prevent it)...but one should never forget one's roots <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> "Come and get me Marine <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> "
  • cybranglcybrangl Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11605Members
    Ok, before the flame fest begins, keep in mind that orginally noob (notice the lack of 00) and newbie were different. A newbie is someone new to the game/forum/environment, while a n00b is someone who refuses to learn. The fact that people starting calling anyone new to the game a n00b just goes to show that the one using the term whoudl have been called by the term.
    Just because you are new, does not mean you are a n00b.
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